Royals Interested In Zambrano

[DewsSox79]

Royals Interested In Carlos Zambrano: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

 

[Rice Cube]

Interest being "we'd love if it you picked up $17MM of his contract and we don't have to give you anything back" :lol:

 

[bleacherbum54]

Interest being "we'd love if it you picked up $17MM of his contract and we don't have to give you anything back" :lol:

That's fair his trade value is probably near zero I figured we would have to eat his deal if we dont thats a huge bonus IMO/

 

[Rice Cube]

I'd rather just have Z pitch for the Cubs since the money has to be paid anyway. He's not Carlos Silva...he can still get outs every now and then.

 

[bleacherbum54]

I'd rather just have Z pitch for the Cubs since the money has to be paid anyway. He's not Carlos Silva...he can still get outs every now and then.

If Z comes back to the Cubs next year I wont watch any game he plays in. The ****** walked out on the team. If Theo really wants to change the culture no way he brings Z back that would be another ticking time bomb that will go off. The guys a cancer he better not come back. Or I will be disappointed in Theo a bit

 

[Rice Cube]

If Z comes back to the Cubs next year I wont watch any game he plays in. The ****** walked out on the team. If Theo really wants to change the culture no way he brings Z back that would be another ticking time bomb that will go off. The guys a cancer he better not come back. Or I will be disappointed in Theo a bit

That's your choice and nobody will stop you. What Theo is hopefully going to do is analyze how much production Z can provide and then look and see what he gets back in hypothetical trades. If it turns out that keeping Z is the best for the team production-wise and performance-wise, then go for it. If the best thing is to trade him for junk, that's fine too. Either way, the man is getting paid. If he can provide value, then he might as well do it in a Cubs uniform. The 2013 option probably has no chance of vesting anyway, so one more year of Z is all you'd have to stomach.

 

[bleacherbum54]

That's your choice and nobody will stop you. What Theo is hopefully going to do is analyze how much production Z can provide and then look and see what he gets back in hypothetical trades. If it turns out that keeping Z is the best for the team production-wise and performance-wise, then go for it. If the best thing is to trade him for junk, that's fine too. Either way, the man is getting paid. If he can provide value, then he might as well do it in a Cubs uniform. The 2013 option probably has no chance of vesting anyway, so one more year of Z is all you'd have to stomach.

It isnt about production I dont care if he has 25 win stuff next year. THE GUY QUIT ON HIS TEAM. If I was in charge he would never step foot in Wrigley again after what he did in Atlanta.

 

[Rice Cube]

It isnt about production I dont care if he has 25 win stuff next year. THE GUY QUIT ON HIS TEAM. If I was in charge he would never step foot in Wrigley again after what he did in Atlanta.

You're not in charge.

 

[X]

I think the bigger question is, is his potential production more positive than his potential clubhouse cancer/team distraction is negative...

That being said, I hope we're done w/ him.

 

[Rice Cube]

I think the bigger question is, is his potential production more positive than his potential clubhouse cancer/team distraction is negative...

That being said, I hope we're done w/ him.

That is the question that should be asked and analyzed by Theo and friends before they simply cut him loose.

 

[X]

Z, Marmol, $8MM for Joakim Soria...

 

[X]

That is the question that should be asked and analyzed by Theo and friends before they simply cut him loose.

agreed.

 

[Rice Cube]

But don't you think that question has already been answered by Zambrano's last couple years in Chicago?

Z actually had a decent enough year in 2010. 2011 started off okay and then he kind of fell off before blowing up in Atlanta. There's something left, it's just up to the Cubs to determine how much.

 

[Captain Obvious]

If we only had to pay half, I'd be happy with the deal.

 

[bleacherbum54]

Z, Marmol, $8MM for Joakim Soria...

lol no way the royals take that.


but if people actually want Z back after what he did last year than i dont know what this world has come too. He quit on his team. Has anyone played sports? If a player quits on his teammates and the organization you cant bring him back that sends a terrible message. Z is a tool blamed everybody but himself i hope I never see him in a Cubs uni ever again.

 

[Captain Obvious]

lol no way the royals take that.


but if people actually want Z back after what he did last year than i dont know what this world has come too. He quit on his team. Has anyone played sports? If a player quits on his teammates and the organization you cant bring him back that sends a terrible message. Z is a tool i hope I never see him in a Cubs uni ever again.

Baseball is a business. It doesn't matter what message it sends, if he can produce, that's all that matters.

I agree what he did was bad, but don't act like this is a game of feelings. It's a game of money.... insert moneyball joke here.

 

[bleacherbum54]

Baseball is a business. It doesn't matter what message it sends, if he can produce, that's all that matters.

I agree what he did was bad, but don't act like this is a game of feelings. It's a game of money.... insert moneyball joke here.

Yes it does matter if he is a cancer in the club house blaming all his teammates for his own failures than what he produces is negative to the team and cancerous to us. Team chemistry is something that is always missing in Chicago and Big Z and players like him are a big reason for that.


If Theo's vision for the Cubs way is bringing players like Z in I want no part of his way.

 

[nwfisch]

And if Zambrano's production negatively affects the other 24 players in the dugout :tiptoe:

 

[bleacherbum54]

And if Zambrano's production negatively affects the other 24 players in the dugout :tiptoe:

This!!


if we are changing the culture we cant have cancers like Z in the club house.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Yes it does matter if he is a cancer in the club house blaming all his teammates for his own failures than what he produces is negative to the team and cancerous to us. Team chemistry is something that is always missing in Chicago and Big Z and players like him are a big reason for that.


If Theo's vision for the Cubs way is bringing players like Z in I want no part of his way.

Team Chemistry comes with winning. That's why it has been missing. Winning comes with good players.

If a player can produce, so what if he bitches and moans? If the other 24 players let it affect them, that's really too bad, considering that they are adult men. They should be old enough to put people like that in their place when it is 24 vs. 1.

Maybe that is Theo's vision for the Cubs. I doubt it, but why does it matter? All I care about is winning.