Rumor on tik tok(Rico) he hits usually

[bears26]

And you think the Bears are that much better?? Nope!

The Bears are starting to look good talent wise. Any new QB coming in will be coming into a better situation than Justin did. He is right, Lincoln Riley fielded a USC Team that had very little to no talent. It was basically a one man show with Caleb and had to play through a ton of adversity. Riley has not recruited very well since joining USC, which was also his problem at OU. The recruiting is even worse at USC. Most of those winning teams Riley was on at OU were because of talent brought in by Bob Stoops (Hollywood Brown, Dede Westbrook, Ceedee Lamb were not his players). Even Caleb Williams was not his first choice.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

You are making shit up. Show me a credible report that he is getting 8m in NIL?

It is more advantageous to get in the NFL sooner and get yo your 2nd contract sooner. Duh!

I said he could. How can I give a report of what he'd make next year if he stayed in college. Not very critical thinking on your part. LMAO

Whether you get the big signing bonus next year or the next is quite meaningless as you still get it.

 

[remydat]

I said he could. How can I give a report of what he'd make next year if he stayed in college. Not very critical thinking on your part. LMAO

Whether you get the big signing bonus next year or the next is quite meaningless as you still get it.

You cant because you are making shit up. That is the point.

You may not get it if you blow our knee playing on college.

And again you lose a year in your prime as you make more money if you play 13 years in the NFL vs 1 year in college and 12 in the NFL.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

You cant because you are making shit up. That is the point.

You may not get it if you blow our knee playing on college.

And again you lose a year in your prime as you make more money if you play 13 years in the NFL vs 1 year in college and 12 in the NFL.

You realize we're talking about NIL money he'd be making if he stayed in college next year and not talking about the reported 2.5 mil he has made thus far, right. You don't think it would be a big deal if he stayed another year? And that being a big deal would lead to a lot more NIL money?

You sweat college player injuries more than they do. Injuries are more likely at NFL level so he could get a career ending injury if he went to the NFL next year but could avoid it if he stayed in college. How you like that spin?

You don't have a specific # of years in your prime. You have 5 years til your big 2nd contract. That's all that's important when talking the big money.

 

[remydat]

You realize we're talking about NIL money he'd be making if he stayed in college next year and not talking about the reported 2.5 mil he has made thus far, right. You don't think it would be a big deal if he stayed another year? And that being a big deal would lead to a lot more NIL money?

You sweat college player injuries more than they do. Injuries are more likely at NFL level so he could get a career ending injury if he went to the NFL next year but could avoid it if he stayed in college. How you like that spin?

You don't have a specific # of years in your prime. You have 5 years til your big 2nd contract. That's all that's important when talking the big money.

Right so magically he will make over 3 times in NIL as he reportedly made this year? Nope.

Lol there is a reason plays sign long term deals. 4 years guaranteed > 1 year of NIL.

It is better to get your 2nd contract younger as age is always a factor in how much you can make.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Right so magically he will make over 3 times in NIL as he reportedly made this year? Nope.

Lol there is a reason plays sign long term deals. 4 years guaranteed > 1 year of NIL.

It is better to get your 2nd contract younger as age is always a factor in how much you can make.

Talking about a 1 year difference which is nothing. He's already a millionaire with plenty more millions to come. Why does he need to rush? He does not. Money is more of a motivator when one doesn't have so much. He already has a lot.

 

[msadows]

I mean uscs talent (while Williams was there), especially this year, has generally been far inferior to ranked teams they are facing. Even good qbs struggle when the other team is significantly better at the college level

Thats top 25 defenses, not all of those teams were actually ranked teams.

The issue is as that graphic shows he played very very few games against top defenses. The majority of his starts were actually against bottom tier D's since he played in the PAC12.

I don't mind switching QB's, but I never bought into the idiotic generational QB nonsense. Both he and maye play a bunch of teams yearly without NFL talent. Unless you play for the Big 10 or SEC you aren't facing guys all over the field who will be in the NFL.

Why I also think him going to OSU would be a terrible decision. Sure he could tear it up, but you cant go up from being the #1 pick.

 

[msadows]

Fields was a better talent than either of these guys and played on a much bigger stage.

Did want to add that.

Before the Pre-draft question marks he was seen as the 1b/2a to trevor lawrence, who he's basically played just as well as the last 17 games.

You don't have 53 touchdowns to 3 interceptions as a sophmore in college as a fluke.

 

[remydat]

Talking about a 1 year difference which is nothing. He's already a millionaire with plenty more millions to come. Why does he need to rush? He does not. Money is more of a motivator when one doesn't have so much. He already has a lot.

So again let's bet on whether he declares or not. Otherwise you just making up shit to ramble on about.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

So again let's bet on whether he declares or not. Otherwise you just making up shit to ramble on about.

That's not what was being discussed. You seem to be going in a vortex as I told you many many many posts ago, that's not what was being discussed. All that was being discussed was that he could and has hinted about it.

 

[remydat]

That's not what was being discussed. You seem to be going in a vortex as I told you many many many posts ago, that's not what was being discussed. All that was being discussed was that he could and has hinted about it.

The point is you dont really believe this bullshit hypothetical is likely because you are unwilling to bet on it.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

The point is you dont really believe this bullshit hypothetical is likely because you are unwilling to bet on it.

Point is I told you long ago, it's not about me expecting it to happen. It's a rumor I've long heard and can understand due to these players already being millionaires.




Either you have a real bad memory or just like going in circles.

 

[remydat]

Point is I told you long ago, it's not about me expecting it to happen. It's a rumor I've long heard and can understand due to these players already being millionaires.

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Either you have a real bad memory or just like going in circles.

Lol we are all aware it is a rumor. The point is the rumor is likely BS.

 

[Bearly]

I didn't say it was close. Still he has made millions and would make probably more next year if he stayed. It's not a move he has to feel the need to make just based on money. If he was making no money at all, then it would be. It's not like he's leaving any NFL money on the table. He would still get the same type 4 year deal or better in '25. We also don't know how much he could make next year as I'm sure a big deal would be made about him staying. He could make Bronny type money next year if he stayed .

It's not about what he'll make as much about how much he could lose. The risk is too great to not enter the draft, especially since he can't enter the portal. He's not playing in the Holiday Bowl for the same reason. You don't do that when you feel there isn't a lot to lose or are returning for another year. I could pull a rumor out my ass and it would stink as much. It's football and injuries are real, common and can radically change your worth. A torn shoulder or dislocated knee could not only cost him the top spot, it could cost getting drafted in the 1st 2 days and those are not uncommon at QB.

Harrison is in the driver's seat with his generational wealth situation but I fully expect him to enter the draft as well. Their situations are not the same in terms of play situations or wealth.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Lol we are all aware it is a rumor. The point is the rumor is likely BS.

Well, it came from him. I never suspected it was about anything other than him trying to dictate where he goes. When this discussion with you started all I had said was the fact college players can already make millions means they aren't as desperate right away for that NFL money and you lost your shit.

As far as risk taking, some won't see it as risky a thing as you and others just more willing to take risks.

 

[iueyedoc]

The guy opted out of playing in the Holiday Bowl. He is entering the 2024 draft. [/thread]

 

[UChiLAbear]

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Informative....thanks.........I say pass on this guy.....

 

[DaaBears]

Informative....thanks.........I say pass on this guy.....

Yeah, I just kind of saw that and copied and pasted it. Seemed informative like you said. The counter argument is that USC doesn't have the greatest players around CW. I do think this is a bit overstated. I know they're not Michigan or Ohio State. But they're not North East Western Michigan either.

 

[remydat]

Well, it came from him. I never suspected it was about anything other than him trying to dictate where he goes. When this discussion with you started all I had said was the fact college players can already make millions means they aren't as desperate right away for that NFL money and you lost your shit.

As far as risk taking, some won't see it as risky a thing as you and others just more willing to take risks.


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Lol now you admit it is likely just him trying to dictate where he goes. Ergo your other ramble is nonsense. He aint turning doing 38m guaranteed.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Lol now you admit it is likely just him trying to dictate where he goes. Ergo your other ramble is nonsense. He aint turning doing 38m guaranteed.

The convo started out more basic, just saying college players aren't as needy to jump into the NFL for money since many can become millionaires right in college. That's just a plain and obvious fact you wanted to steer away from.