Ryan Poles Responsibility for JF's Injury

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Yeah I don’t understand. there are quite a few things I like what I’ve heard poles say so far, He has yet to do anything about it. You can count claypool as an attempt, I suppose.

Up until 2 weeks ago he did absolutely nothing to help fields.

Putting him in a better offense with a better playcaller than he had previously is a start. Dont think Nagy every averaged as much points as the Bears have the last month or more
 

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Poles failure to prioritize support forJustin Fields in the draft and free agency did not help an O line that led the league in sacks last year. His failure to add serious talent to the receiving corps meant that Mooney could be double teamed and once again the Bears are at the bottom in receiving yards.

So JF was required to carry the entire offense on his back and his runs were pretty much the whole show--with the predictable injury that followed.

How anybody has confidence in Poles is a mystery that defies explanation.
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Poles certainly overestimated his ability to scout and evaluate cheaper OL and WR options.

Going out and attempting to sign Ogunjobi as your FA splash signing and missing an opportunity to spend that money elsewhere at the beginning of free agency really messed us up.

I still think Poles has a good eye for talent overall and the roster will round itself out in time. It's just he decided to play with fire a bit on the offensive side of the ball and thought he could scout his way out of it. Probably not the wisest idea as a first year GM.
 

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Ikem Ekwonu, Charles Cross.

The defense needs NO help until Bears can protect the QB. None, absolutely nothing. Your narrative doesn't match the facts of about 4 decades of a losing team let alone the facts of the team since the anti-defense rule changes so the NFL could have exciting high scoring games.
I get it, you like being worse than the Browns. Are you even a fan of the Bears or a troll from another team trying to convince fans to cry for more defense before we have an offense?
 
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Haters gonna haters.

Still waiting for some example by this guy's, which oline and receiver were available in free agency and is doing a great job (hello to Cincinnati).

He just had no capital to do anything or do you believe this Buffalo kid would still playing there, if the Bears would have 2023 salary last year?

Also no defense is needing is laughable. Imagine, first quarter and - 14 pts as in Mel Tucker shit? Does this helps Fields, because everybody knows you're going from Running to passing?

It's the first year of Poles. He was hired in February. What does people expect from one guy in 9 months to do, what difference employees didn't get done since 1985?
 

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Yeah I don’t understand. there are quite a few things I like what I’ve heard poles say so far, He has yet to do anything about it. You can count claypool as an attempt, I suppose.

Up until 2 weeks ago he did absolutely nothing to help fields.

So Braxton Jones being rated the top rookie tackle is not help? Signing Reiff and Schoefield is not help? Bringing in ESB who can block the edge on all this Fields scrambles is not help? Have an OC that modeled an O that allowed Fields to become the most electric player in the NFL is not help? Or giving him a top rushing attack to take pressure off of the pass game?

I think the issue here is not that Poles gave him no help. I think the issue is he provided help in a way different from your expectations and preferences. You may not like what he did nit pretending he did nothing hurts your credibility.

It is almost like if we had drafted Jones a T in the 2nd round who graded out worst than Jones you guys would be happy based on where he was drafted rather than actual production.
 

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Poles failure to prioritize support forJustin Fields in the draft and free agency did not help an O line that led the league in sacks last year. His failure to add serious talent to the receiving corps meant that Mooney could be double teamed and once again the Bears are at the bottom in receiving yards.

So JF was required to carry the entire offense on his back and his runs were pretty much the whole show--with the predictable injury that followed.

How anybody has confidence in Poles is a mystery that defies explanation.
I am going to give him credit for polishing turds with an old rag.....that is analogy for he stared with a bloated roster and no cap and limited draft picks and made the most of it.

The sooner people realize that this year was a legit rebuild of the roster, the cap space, draft picks and coaching the sooner we can all just relax....

If however they go into next year and half step on both trenches and WRs, I will be the first to jump on the band wagon to fire Poles.

I do worry that Pole may not be able to transition from penny pincher to finding difference makers that he might have to over pay for. We have a ton of cap space and no one to spend it on that is currently on the roster.
 

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So Braxton Jones being rated the top rookie tackle is not help? Signing Reiff and Schoefield is not help? Bringing in ESB who can block the edge on all this Fields scrambles is not help? Have an OC that modeled an O that allowed Fields to become the most electric player in the NFL is not help? Or giving him a top rushing attack to take pressure off of the pass game?

I think the issue here is not that Poles gave him no help. I think the issue is he provided help in a way different from your expectations and preferences. You may not like what he did nit pretending he did nothing hurts your credibility.

It is almost like if we had drafted Jones a T in the 2nd round who graded out worst than Jones you guys would be happy based on where he was drafted rather than actual production.
Lol Whatever. Wow. I see you conveniently left off your boy in that list.
 

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Lol Whatever. Wow. I see you conveniently left off your boy in that list.

Who is my boy? I see you are ignoring that Jones grades out better than most of the OL yall wanted in the offseason. Seems yall worry more about name recognition or draft round than how they actually play.
 

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I am going to give him credit for polishing turds with an old rag.....that is analogy for he stared with a bloated roster and no cap and limited draft picks and made the most of it.

The sooner people realize that this year was a legit rebuild of the roster, the cap space, draft picks and coaching the sooner we can all just relax....

If however they go into next year and half step on both trenches and WRs, I will be the first to jump on the band wagon to fire Poles.

I do worry that Pole may not be able to transition from penny pincher to finding difference makers that he might have to over pay for. We have a ton of cap space and no one to spend it on that is currently on the roster.
I think that they should use a little of the money and re-sign Montgomery.
 

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Who is my boy? I see you are ignoring that Jones grades out better than most of the OL yall wanted in the offseason. Seems yall worry more about name recognition or draft round than how they actually play.

I think he's actually grading higher than Orlando Jones who is the consensus best tackle possibly available in FA.
 

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I think that they should use a little of the money and re-sign Montgomery.

Why? He is a mediocre running back. 3.8 ypc, right in line with his 3.9 career ypc. He was fine on his rookie deal but re-signing him when you already have a better back and can easily replace him with a late round pick makes no sense.
 

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Apparently rid the team of all the bad contracts and refill the team with talent in one off season with the most dead money and no first round pick.

Sounds easy enough.
Yeah.................That happens in the NFL all the time.......................Right?
 

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Why? He is a mediocre running back. 3.8 ypc, right in line with his 3.9 career ypc. He was fine on his rookie deal but re-signing him when you already have a better back and can easily replace him with a late round pick makes no sense.
I believe that Montgomery is the best back that they have and will be more valuable to them next year when they fix the offensive line and get him involved in the passing game. He also is a leader on the team.
 

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I realize it's difficult when you're not operating with your own brain but I think people are rating the 1st round OTs higher. Admittedly that could be because they're 1sts so it's expected of them, that's why you actually look with your own eyes and judge for yourself.

If we had Ekwonu I'd almost be saying the same thing as Jones. There's potential. The only difference is I wouldn't be wanting to get a 1st round LT in case Ekwonu doesn't play up to potential when he's not a rookie because he is the 1st round talent there. I would be saying if he's not playing up to potential by the end of the year we would need to draft LT somewhere to compete.
But this is CCS where people were posting clips of McGlitchy in his first few rookie games to claim he was a bust and hated Long because he played racing games on Twitch.
Just don't complain about our injured QB or anything else about our offense when you're only willing to have backups on offense.


Gee, where's our 5th rounder? If he's the best LT in the draft I think it would be big news if all the GMs failed to pick the best in the draft to the 5th round.
 

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I realize it's difficult when you're not operating with your own brain but I think people are rating the 1st round OTs higher. Admittedly that could be because they're 1sts so it's expected of them, that's why you actually look with your own eyes and judge for yourself.

If we had Ekwonu I'd almost be saying the same thing as Jones. There's potential. The only difference is I wouldn't be wanting to get a 1st round LT in case Ekwonu doesn't play up to potential when he's not a rookie because he is the 1st round talent there. I would be saying if he's not playing up to potential by the end of the year we would need to draft LT somewhere to compete.
But this is CCS where people were posting clips of McGlitchy in his first few rookie games to claim he was a bust and hated Long because he played racing games on Twitch.
Just don't complain about our injured QB or anything else about our offense when you're only willing to have backups on offense.


Gee, where's our 5th rounder? If he's the best LT in the draft I think it would be big news if all the GMs failed to pick the best in the draft to the 5th round.

Um that is just the grade for week 9 dum dum. Overall Jones has a 71.1 grade with 66.5 pass blocking. Ekwonu has a 64.9 grade with 69.9 pass blocking.
 

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Um that is just the grade for week 9 dum dum. Overall Jones has a 71.1 grade with 66.5 pass blocking. Ekwonu has a 64.9 grade with 69.9 pass blocking.

I'm sorry. Find me the week PFF had Jones.
 

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