Saad Traded to Columbus

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and how quickly we forget about Saad being benched for his lazy play.

benched? Or you mean when he was dropped down from the top 2 lines?

I don't remember him getting benched
 

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After a night's sleep, I still don't get an aspect of this trade:

Assuming Saad wanted too much--fine, we move him for guys who can help us now--and we did in the case of A² and Dano. Assuming A² is slotted with Kane and T² and the fact he's score 20 before doesn't put a breakout year out of plausibility--and I like what I've read about Dano. It hurts losing our 2nd best defensive player after Hossa, but it's managable.

I also get the fact that Paliotta and Tropp were sweeteners. But I sill cannot fathom why in the smeg Bowman got Morin back. To me this is the fail of the trade. Morin's relationship (or lack thereof) with the 'hawks doesn't really even qualify him as a sweetener on any trade, and it's not like Q's going to play him (even though while here I didn't consider him that bad or that good--and Q's played worse frequently). It's like Bowman also got back a bag of dehydrated water. Was there not anyone else in Columbus' system that he could have got instead? Did the deal hing of us taking Morin back?

That aspect eludes me in terms of "why?" Sure, he may not take any cap but he takes up a contract slot--and one that likley won't be used. We might as well have gotten Vorobiev back.

Maybe sending Morin to Colombus taught him a lesson? I'm sure Morin was consulted if this would be ok? I mean, slots are available now that weren't before and maybe Bowman thinks Morin could finally understand his opportunity and be properly motivated to make the Blackhawks and understand what it will take and the kind of franchise he will have to play for in a shit city if he can't do it.

Why not? Is it so bad? There is still a wing spot up for grabs even if you slot Dano/Teuvo/Panarin into wings.
 

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I doubt Morin was asked. Probably had more to do with salaries/roster spots
 

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I've never heard of a player without a NTC being asked if they could be traded. He will either put 100% into it or it's off to russia to play with such elite competition like Robert Esche
 

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I've never heard of a player without a NTC being asked if they could be traded. He will either put 100% into it or it's off to russia to play with such elite competition like Robert Esche

Let me rephrase:

Morin asked Stan to trade him.
 

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After a night's sleep, I still don't get an aspect of this trade:

Assuming Saad wanted too much--fine, we move him for guys who can help us now--and we did in the case of A² and Dano. Assuming A² is slotted with Kane and T² and the fact he's score 20 before doesn't put a breakout year out of plausibility--and I like what I've read about Dano. It hurts losing our 2nd best defensive player after Hossa, but it's managable.

Wow, we lost Toews?!?!?


I'm gonna start a new thread, stat!
 

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Why do we care about Morin? He was just thrown in to add depth into the mix, if he is playing it is because someone got hurt.
 

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I do cocaine! <j/k> Oddly enough Falco died on my birthday.

2nd best for Saad was probably pushing it, but he did make leaps and bounds defensively and a selke IMHO is not an accurate reflection of who the best defensive FWD is--especially since Hossa never won it and only centers seem to get it.

I can accept last year that he was the 3rd best defensive FWD and Toews the 2nd--but IMHO not much separated them. If Toews is Zuul, Saad was Vince Klortho and Hossa was Gozer.
 

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Talked with a good friend who is a BJ's fan. Said good trade for both, they really loved Dano.
 

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I do cocaine! <j/k> Oddly enough Falco died on my birthday.
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why do you have a George Catlin painting Samurai?
 

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why do you have a George Catlin painting Samurai?
No, but I do have a George Carlin...:rimshot:

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To be honest, I have some Indian prints, but not that actual print of Chief Black Hawk. I may have to just find and buy one.

These are my only hockey related prints...
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And another favorite, ('cause I took the shot :smug:)
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My thoughts on this trade and some things I have seen people say in regards to it...

First off, the Blackhawks lost a good player in Saad. He is shifty, can create on his own, works hard defensively, and should become a 60 point type player in the near future. Not easy to find. I haven't been a fan of Saad on a Toews/Hossa lines over the year but he is a damn good player. Plenty of people who have talked Saad up are now trying to expose his flaws, but no reason to do that and homerism at its finest. In regards to some people (not even necessarily on here) saying he is "greedy"...I don't know one person who doesn't try to maximize what they can make (for the most part). Saad has 15+ years to make the bulk of his money...after taxes, paying an agent, paying NHLPA, etc - it really does eat into a lot of his earnings. Good for him on trying to cash in.

This is what the salary cap does. It sucks. Blackhawks got a couple of pieces back that should help. Anisimov (atleast from what I was told) is likely to sign an extension with the Blackhawks at some point, so that helps ease the pain if he can come in and play to his capability, and be here for the long term. Dano should be a player that a lot of fans enjoy to watch and he has a high ceiling. The other pieces are just sort of there.

Trade sort of is what it is. Don't consider the Blackhawks winners at all but can't consider them losers considering the position they were in. Will be interesting to see what happens with Sharp and Bickell at this point now. Blackhawks still aren't in a great position heading into free agency tomorrow and I really hope it doesn't cost them a veteran or two who is willing to take a pay cut to play with the Blackhawks but isn't willing to wait for there to be the cap room to do so.


Excellent Post. Well thought out.
 

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why do you have a George Catlin painting Samurai?

Upon further review, I think I misread your question. I missed the why part. (allergy eyes)

The portrait is of the actual Chief Black Hawk, not too long after he was captured. Sorry for the confusion and my now useless run-on original reply.
 

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