Saad Traded to Columbus

[HeHateMe]

You argue like a six year old. I don't "hate" Crawford, I just think he's overpaid and Hawks fans overrate him. I've pretty much stated that from the get-go. Hawks are losing young talent other teams in part to fit guys like Crow in at $6M.

I can see why that other forum banned u.

 

[italianbeef]

Crawford is overpaid by at most 400K, the overpaid jabs is really nothing better than a 6year old comment as well as any other jabs.

I think most goalies are overpaid. Play team defense and put a big guy who can move a little back there and you're fine. There's a reason Raanta and Darling don't get shelled every time they sub for Crow. Either they're all three *elite* goalies, or maybe I'm right and the position is overrated.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

I think most goalies are overpaid. Play team defense and put a big guy who can move a little back there and you're fine. There's a reason Raanta and Darling don't get shelled every time they sub for Crow. Either they're all three *elite* goalies, or maybe I'm right and the position is overrated.

 

[Shantz My Pants]

On a side note...not sure why Panarin is getting penciled into the lineup or assumed he's a top 6 immediately when he's never played in NA.

I think it's based on the fact that he has a clause that if he doesn't make the Hawks roster he is going back to the KHL.



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[italianbeef]

Saad's not going to have Toews/Hossa/Kane creating room on the ice that he had in Chicago

Anisimov scored 22 goals and 17 assists a couple years back in 81 games. Not many helpers for a center man, but again, the Blue Jackets. He might blow up here.

 

[ClydeLee]

If he plays next to Kane he'll likely blow up for some better numbers closer to a good 2nd line production, if he is mainly a 3rd liner, he'll still be a really good 3rd line center like he always is and have high shot suppression numbers and 2-way value. I saw a tweet they have completed the 5-year extension Stan was saying they were close on, hope it's good.

 

[Ares]

I saw this trade show up on FB feeds.... and I desperately tried to see if it was just another Onion article.... please someone tell me this is all a huge hoax.

#RIPSaad

#BestBackhanderInNHL

 

[fatbeard]

Sam Fels at the Committed Indian sums it up nicely:

If you didn’t see our retweet of Bob MacKenzie, he had it that Saad was looking for six years at $6.5 million. Quite simply, that’s ludicrous. We’re talking about a player who has yet to put up a 30-goal season wanted 50% more per year than Max Pacioretty, who has two 35+ goal seasons. You simply cannot pay that.

6.5 AAV is gonzo. It's bonkers money.I wonder whether a 22-year old kid is going to regret this decision after a few years of wallowing in obscurity in Columbus, but I hope the money makes him happier than winning, because there's not going to be much of that going on in a podunk college town playing second fiddle to OSU. It sucks to lose a young franchise face like, but the more I look at this trade the more I like what the Hawks got in return and the options it gives them, including retaining Sharp. They were shaping up to be a top-heavy team in 2015-2016, but this trade restores a ton of depth enabling them to roll all four lines again next year, and that's worth a lot more than a single 50-point player.

 

[HeHateMe]

Sam Fels at the Committed Indian sums it up nicely:

If you didn’t see our retweet of Bob MacKenzie, he had it that Saad was looking for six years at $6.5 million. Quite simply, that’s ludicrous. We’re talking about a player who has yet to put up a 30-goal season wanted 50% more per year than Max Pacioretty, who has two 35+ goal seasons. You simply cannot pay that.

6.5 AAV is gonzo. It's bonkers money.I wonder whether a 22-year old kid is going to regret this decision after a few years of wallowing in obscurity in Columbus, but I hope the money makes him happier than winning, because there's not going to be much of that going on in a podunk college town playing second fiddle to OSU. It sucks to lose a young franchise face like, but the more I look at this trade the more I like what the Hawks got in return and the options it gives them, including retaining Sharp. They were shaping up to be a top-heavy team in 2015-2016, but this trade restores a ton of depth enabling them to roll all four lines again next year, and that's worth a lot more than a single 50-point player.

Hater talk.

 

[fatbeard]

Hater talk.

Don't you have a meta-trolling thread to start or something?

 

[Shantz My Pants]

I don't care for anything from the committedindian.

Anyhow, it's not like the Blue Jackets are awful circa early 2000s, they do have some quality young players in Saad, Jenner, Johansen, Wenneberg and Ryan Murray to go along with current guys like Foligno, Dubinsky, Hartnell, Jack Johnson and Tyutin. They also have Bobrovski in net. If some of these prospects in the system start planning out they could end up being a very good team.

If Saad wants that 6.5 million contract, he better live up to it out there as Johansen isn't Kane or Toews.


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[Spunky Porkstacker]

Don't you have a meta-trolling thread to start or something?

Maybe he should be reattaching his dick so he can tear it off again, kind of like that ommypants guy that tears his off a couple times a day.

 

[Newblood]

Jay Zawaski ‏@JayZawaski670 2h2 hours ago
Heard from a great source that Saad is absolutely crushed. He didn't think he'd be getting traded. Seems like a lack of comm w/ agent to me.

 

[fatbeard]

Jay Zawaski ‏@JayZawaski670 2h2 hours ago
Heard from a great source that Saad is absolutely crushed. He didn't think he'd be getting traded. Seems like a lack of comm w/ agent to me.

Saad's agent was playing hardball without his client understanding the ramifications? 6.5 AAV is insane, did they really think Stan wouldn't call their bluff?

 

[Rex]

You argue like a six year old. I don't "hate" Crawford, I just think he's overpaid and Hawks fans overrate him. I've pretty much stated that from the get-go. Hawks are losing young talent other teams in part to fit guys like Crow in at $6M.

yet the often scared, never physical "power forward" who played 82 games on a line with Toews and Hossa and put up only 52 points and a +7 isn't overrated at all, and deserves 6.5 million?

maybe it was his 0.5 points per game in the playoffs that makes him such a clutch performer?

 

[ClydeLee]

yet the often scared, never physical "power forward" who played 82 games on a line with Toews and Hossa and put up only 52 points and a +7 isn't overrated at all, and deserves 6.5 million?

maybe it was his 0.5 points per game in the playoffs that makes him such a clutch performer?

It was that sweet net front driving backhand, brah, a clutch as a chevy cruse

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Jay Zawaski ‏@JayZawaski670 2h2 hours ago
Heard from a great source that Saad is absolutely crushed. He didn't think he'd be getting traded. Seems like a lack of comm w/ agent to me.

Wonder how crushed Stan was hearing that he wanted a long term 6.5 million a year deal. Not like Saad was helping himself, if anything him and his agent are to blame. He knows the situation the team is in cap wise, and if he truly wanted to stay they would of made something work. He has every right to ask for the years and $$$, but he also needs to realize he's a commodity the team needed to get rid of then before someone else pressured the team.


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[Shantz My Pants]

Saad's agent was playing hardball without his client understanding the ramifications? 6.5 AAV is insane, did they really think Stan wouldn't call their bluff?

I could see them starting their negotiation at that amount, but it sounds like they never budged as Bowman was quoted yesterday that "they weren't even close" on the deal.


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[fatbeard]

Wonder how crushed Stan was hearing that he wanted a long term 6.5 million a year deal. Not like Saad was helping himself, if anything him and his agent are to blame. He knows the situation the team is in cap wise, and if he truly wanted to stay they would of made something work. He has every right to ask for the years and $$$, but he also needs to realize he's a commodity the team needed to get rid of then before someone else pressured the team.


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Based off Saad's conference call, it sounds like he really didn't have a handle on what his agent was doing.

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Based off Saad's conference call, it sounds like he really didn't have a handle on what his agent was doing.

Only time will tell. Biggest indicator will be what his next contract is actually at. If it's for less than he was reportedly asking the Hawks, then his agent screwed him. If it's the same, then it's all smoke and mirrors.


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