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...and fearlessly going into the dirty areas regardless of the consequences...
...and fearlessly going into the dirty areas regardless of the consequences...
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Bowman is destroying this franchise. If they ever want to win another cup, he's gotta go. Saad was the key to next year and he got traded for some leftover mongolian beef and half a potsticker.
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I've re-read this post a few times and keep trying to find ways to disprove its conclusion ... but I can't. I really think this trade could make the Hawks a better team, provided that Anisimov pans out and Dano living up to his hype wouldn't hurt, either.
Saad did a lot of things very well but I can't think of anything he did that was impossible to replace. His power play work wasn't all that great and the Hawks have a ton of forwards who can chip in on the PK (does Anisimov do that?). I'm almost coming around to liking this trade instead of just accepting it as a necessity.
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Those Mongolian BBQs aren't safe anyway, folks in line in front of you, with the flu, sneezing on their fixins they take to the chefs.
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SPEED.
Saad is the fastest skater in the NHL and got traded away for a day-old rueben and half a cup of chicken soup.
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Oh, I see what you're doing! Trying to justify and rationalize this god awful trade. Take it somewhere else, buddy!
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I heard it was a half-eaten tamale and some rancid pico de gallo.
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My thoughts on this trade and some things I have seen people say in regards to it...
First off, the Blackhawks lost a good player in Saad. He is shifty, can create on his own, works hard defensively, and should become a 60 point type player in the near future. Not easy to find. I haven't been a fan of Saad on a Toews/Hossa lines over the year but he is a damn good player. Plenty of people who have talked Saad up are now trying to expose his flaws, but no reason to do that and homerism at its finest. In regards to some people (not even necessarily on here) saying he is "greedy"...I don't know one person who doesn't try to maximize what they can make (for the most part). Saad has 15+ years to make the bulk of his money...after taxes, paying an agent, paying NHLPA, etc - it really does eat into a lot of his earnings. Good for him on trying to cash in.
This is what the salary cap does. It sucks. Blackhawks got a couple of pieces back that should help. Anisimov (atleast from what I was told) is likely to sign an extension with the Blackhawks at some point, so that helps ease the pain if he can come in and play to his capability, and be here for the long term. Dano should be a player that a lot of fans enjoy to watch and he has a high ceiling. The other pieces are just sort of there.
Trade sort of is what it is. Don't consider the Blackhawks winners at all but can't consider them losers considering the position they were in. Will be interesting to see what happens with Sharp and Bickell at this point now. Blackhawks still aren't in a great position heading into free agency tomorrow and I really hope it doesn't cost them a veteran or two who is willing to take a pay cut to play with the Blackhawks but isn't willing to wait for there to be the cap room to do so.
First off, the Blackhawks lost a good player in Saad. He is shifty, can create on his own, works hard defensively, and should become a 60 point type player in the near future. Not easy to find. I haven't been a fan of Saad on a Toews/Hossa lines over the year but he is a damn good player. Plenty of people who have talked Saad up are now trying to expose his flaws, but no reason to do that and homerism at its finest. In regards to some people (not even necessarily on here) saying he is "greedy"...I don't know one person who doesn't try to maximize what they can make (for the most part). Saad has 15+ years to make the bulk of his money...after taxes, paying an agent, paying NHLPA, etc - it really does eat into a lot of his earnings. Good for him on trying to cash in.
This is what the salary cap does. It sucks. Blackhawks got a couple of pieces back that should help. Anisimov (atleast from what I was told) is likely to sign an extension with the Blackhawks at some point, so that helps ease the pain if he can come in and play to his capability, and be here for the long term. Dano should be a player that a lot of fans enjoy to watch and he has a high ceiling. The other pieces are just sort of there.
Trade sort of is what it is. Don't consider the Blackhawks winners at all but can't consider them losers considering the position they were in. Will be interesting to see what happens with Sharp and Bickell at this point now. Blackhawks still aren't in a great position heading into free agency tomorrow and I really hope it doesn't cost them a veteran or two who is willing to take a pay cut to play with the Blackhawks but isn't willing to wait for there to be the cap room to do so.
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apparently, journalism isn't dead.
...rather, the fourth estate is alive and well.
Long live the fourth estate!
...rather, the fourth estate is alive and well.
Long live the fourth estate!
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Saad's not going to have Toews/Hossa/Kane creating room on the ice that he had in Chicago
He definitely doesn't have a D group that can move the puck like the Hawks did in Columbus.
He's a 3mil dollar player at best. I'm thrilled the Hawks didn't give that poser what he wanted. Now just move Bickell, they can keep Sharp. Sharp scored 70pts playing with Toews/Hossa and I'm sure he'd be able to do the same if they keep him.
On a side note...not sure why Panarin is getting penciled into the lineup or assumed he's a top 6 immediately when he's never played in NA.
He definitely doesn't have a D group that can move the puck like the Hawks did in Columbus.
He's a 3mil dollar player at best. I'm thrilled the Hawks didn't give that poser what he wanted. Now just move Bickell, they can keep Sharp. Sharp scored 70pts playing with Toews/Hossa and I'm sure he'd be able to do the same if they keep him.
On a side note...not sure why Panarin is getting penciled into the lineup or assumed he's a top 6 immediately when he's never played in NA.
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No, Saad won't be skating with Toews and Hossa but let's not act like playing with Ryan Johansen is going to make Saad awful. Like HW said, I bet he'll be in the vicinity of a 60-point player if he skates with their top line all season long.
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It would be cool if Dano can surprise.
You know Hossa will have been well aware of Dano from last summer I'm guessing.
Versteeg-Toews-Hossa
Panarin-Asinomov-Kane
Teuvo-Dano-Sharp
Hartman-Shaw-Kruger
You know Hossa will have been well aware of Dano from last summer I'm guessing.
Versteeg-Toews-Hossa
Panarin-Asinomov-Kane
Teuvo-Dano-Sharp
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There is speculation he is as good as Kavulchuk, and the bonus' in his contract make it a 3 mil cap hit but Bowman still thinks he is steal hunting there.
His teammate was a top 6 and he is still developing but scored 60 points in Russia I thought.
I also want to do that because Bowman is talking like he views the big Russian as the final 2C solution. If Panarin is as skilled as they say. Anyway, this trade makes for hilarious lines. We should have fun figuring it out now because of various factors. There is reasoning to do a number of things, like chemistry factor is why I keep slotting Panarin for skill with Kane, but now that a russian is 2C it makes even more sense. Captain America and the two Russians.
Nationality or SuperFly Lineup (pairs Russians and Slovakians)
Kane-Toews-Teuvo
Artem-Artemi-Sharp
Hossa-Dano-Versteeg
Shaw-Kruger- competition
Front Loaded
Sharp-Hossa-Toews
Teuvo-Anisimov-Kane
Panarin-Dano-Hartman/Baun/Topp/Nordstrom
Shaw-Kruger-Hartman/Baun/Topp/Nordstrom
Is it time for Hossa down and Teuvo up? I mean, that lineup has crazy chemistry potential given what we saw with Teuvo Kane, but if you keep Teuvo and Sharp you still haven't decided Kane yet, or Hossa. This is a team in major transition now, its basically start over and find the new combinations as every line has already lost somebody.
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...when the hell did Saad do that? I'll remember him for avoiding the dirty areas and being afraid to get hit in the playoffs.
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I was joking my friend.
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Not to mention that, but didn't Toews and Kane both make $6.3M in their second contracts?
That said, Saad doesn't deserve those numbers.... not yet. Well, in Ohio, he'll get that. Just not here.
Precisely what I was thinking. We might be able to keep Oduya as well if we don't re-sign Vermette or Richards, but I don't know how that will play out.
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So Dano actually had more points per game than Saad did last year, while he is probably not as good defensively we have solved our center problem for about 5 years and could move Shaw to wing.
Not too mention we now we get let the market dictate the value for Sharp and Bickell, which could get us those picks everyone wants.
Not too mention we now we get let the market dictate the value for Sharp and Bickell, which could get us those picks everyone wants.
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You argue like a six year old. I don't "hate" Crawford, I just think he's overpaid and Hawks fans overrate him. I've pretty much stated that from the get-go. Hawks are losing young talent other teams in part to fit guys like Crow in at $6M.
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Crawford is overpaid by at most 400K, the overpaid jabs is really nothing better than a 6year old comment as well as any other jabs.
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