Semifinals Game 1 IGT Red Wings at Blackhawks 7 PM CT 5/15/13

[Diehardfan]

Great start but after the goal they let Detroit dominate with energy for too long until regaining command.

Maybe we'll see Shaw-Stal swap. If Q wants to send messages right he oughta

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Yeah, a couple of real stupid penalties from Shaw but I thought Handzus was even worse. But Im sure he'll be back out there regardless because of his faceoff work. Another slow start but they really took it to them in the 2nd & 3rd. A solid win.

 

[ursamajor]

Once the Hawks shook out of their stupor in the first period, Detroit did not look like they belonged on the same ice. The speed of the Hawks should get them through this round easy. I am calling sweep.

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[Jntg4]

So... LA or San Jose? #WingsTroll

 

[DewsSox79]

So... LA or San Jose? #WingsTroll

either one will be tough as ****

 

[HawkWriter]

Great game and was a lot of fun. Heard several fans call in on the way home (on 670 though) talk about how the crowd seemed "out" of it for most the game. Didn't really feel that way as it just seemed everyone was on pins and needles when it was 1 - 1, as is expected.

Q has been consistent all year long with his lines for the most part, but I would really like to see a Handzus and Kruger swap. Wouldn't mind Handzus taking the faceoffs in the defensive zone and then making a quick change, but Kruger is really looking good out there and confident. Handzus just can't keep up with Kane and Sharp - partly because of his injury and partly because he isn't fleet of feet.

First line finally showed up as a unit last night. Thought Saad was tentative in the first (whole team was almost) but he really started to get that confidence back and it showed in the third period. Saad got a whole lot of chances and will start to bury them if he continues to get them. Toews and Hossa both looked pretty damn good out there as well.

Bolland looked pretty good out there as well. 1 game at 3c compared to however many at 2c and it may have been one of his most complete games all year. He knows how to play that 3c position in the playoffs and should benefit the Blackhawks if he can stay healthy.

Thought the entire Defense (and Crawford) stepped up and played great. Oduya (not even counting the goal) had a solid game on the back end. Same goes with Rozsival who continues to be one of the best #6 guys on the line. What a different story this year with Oduya/Rozsival as the number 5/6 guys compared to year's past.

Still would love to see Stalberg back in the lineup over Carcillo.

 

[Franko725]

fired may be harsh but I can see the frustration. if we get passed this round some of his moves could really bite him against the best thats left.

That is the whole thing Dewey, he continues to play guys that really do not contribute much to the team. The unfortunate part of the Kruger goal last night was that is was assisted by Carcillo. I have no hard feelings for Carbomb, but that point will give Q all the motivation that he needs to put him back out there in the next game. There are far more useful players that are sitting that could also contribute to the team. Stalberg has been one of the most consistent guys all season. There was more than one game that he appeared to be the only guy out there putting up any effort at all. Being upset with him because he questions whether he might be able to help an abysmal power play unit only contributes to it continuing to be terrible.

Q likes to talk about rolling four lines. That is not happening when you are only playing a certain player six minutes or less a game. If the game would have been closer last night, I don't think Carcillo would have even gotten that much time.

I know calling for Q to be fired might be harsh, but sometimes I think it might be a necessary evil. The only other option is for Bowman to take away options like Bollig and Carcillo next season. They provide nothing to this roster that one of the Hogs couldn't provide, and most of those kids would provide far more skill.

This is not the regular season where you can throw a guy out there in a game that doesn't really matter. Every game is of the utmost importance at this point, and putting a player out there that is not the best option available is just not acceptable.

 

[nwfisch]

Heard on the score this morning...16 playoff games for Stalgod...0 goals.

 

[ClydeLee]

That is the whole thing Dewey, he continues to play guys that really do not contribute much to the team. The unfortunate part of the Kruger goal last night was that is was assisted by Carcillo. I have no hard feelings for Carbomb, but that point will give Q all the motivation that he needs to put him back out there in the next game. There are far more useful players that are sitting that could also contribute to the team. Stalberg has been one of the most consistent guys all season. There was more than one game that he appeared to be the only guy out there putting up any effort at all. Being upset with him because he questions whether he might be able to help an abysmal power play unit only contributes to it continuing to be terrible.

Q likes to talk about rolling four lines. That is not happening when you are only playing a certain player six minutes or less a game. If the game would have been closer last night, I don't think Carcillo would have even gotten that much time.

I know calling for Q to be fired might be harsh, but sometimes I think it might be a necessary evil. The only other option is for Bowman to take away options like Bollig and Carcillo next season. They provide nothing to this roster that one of the Hogs couldn't provide, and most of those kids would provide far more skill.

This is not the regular season where you can throw a guy out there in a game that doesn't really matter. Every game is of the utmost importance at this point, and putting a player out there that is not the best option available is just not acceptable.

Your last paragraph is exactly why he can and ought to make questionable moves.

Because it's not the regular season you can't have guys out there with lacking effort or performance for their role.

Id rather have a Rockford guy in over Carcillo but stalberg being fast and playing meh isn't enough to stay in a playoff game.

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[KBIB]

Your last paragraph is exactly why he can and ought to make questionable moves.

Because it's not the regular season you can't have guys out there with lacking effort or performance for their role.

Id rather have a Rockford guy in over Carcillo but stalberg being fast and playing meh isn't enough to stay in a playoff game.

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But which one?

Pirri was one of the best players in the AHL this year. Morin is a big body who can bang, Hayes is a taller Stalberg minus the elite speed.

Ill take Smith, that's the one. Playoff player who doesn't wimp out. **** Carbomb already. He must be wearing Q's favorite colored panties to even have a dam spot on the fourth line with his six whole minutes of ice time. At least Smith is gonna give you a honest effort and isn't shy about standing in front of the net. Just wait til Carbomb boards some guy bad. Its gonna happen.


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[tbo41fan]

But which one?

Pirri was one of the best players in the AHL this year. Morin is a big body who can bang, Hayes is a taller Stalberg minus the elite speed.

Ill take Smith, that's the one. Playoff player who doesn't wimp out. **** Carbomb already. He must be wearing Q's favorite colored panties to even have a dam spot on the fourth line with his six whole minutes of ice time. At least Smith is gonna give you a honest effort and isn't shy about standing in front of the net. Just wait til Carbomb boards some guy bad. Its gonna happen.


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I've seen this said about Morin before and I don't get it. He is 6'1 but hasn't he always been labeled as a scoring forward primarily and not a 'big body'?

Maybe I am thinking of someone else.....

 

[HawkWriter]

I've seen this said about Morin before and I don't get it. He is 6'1 but hasn't he always been labeled as a scoring forward primarily and not a 'big body'?

Maybe I am thinking of someone else.....

Morin has always reminded of Brouwer in a lot of ways. Isn't afraid to throw the body around, has a nice scoring touch, but his lack of foot speed could hold him back from making it to the next level. I will say, it looks like Morin has improved his foot speed from what I have seen of him this year. With the possibility of cap casualties this offseason, Morin might get his shot eventually.

 

[KBIB]

I've seen this said about Morin before and I don't get it. He is 6'1 but hasn't he always been labeled as a scoring forward primarily and not a 'big body'?

Maybe I am thinking of someone else.....

No, you are correct. Morin has the hands, its just that after coming back from a horrible concussion it seems like he has basically dedicated himself to playing a grittier game. This guy suffered thru concussion symptoms for almost two years, I would go as far as to say he didn't get his mind right until this year. When the Hawks traded for him, he was one of the best skill prospects on the Thrashers, with a comparable to a bad skating Kessel, his hands are that good. Right now, I see him more as a kind of Andrew Ladd type, he has the hands, its just that his skating hasn't gotten any better and you better bring something other then hands to play on the Hawks, so he bangs.

Morin has a future with the Hawks and is a perfect role player who can spot up on the top two once in awhile without looking lost. He might have gotten the most out of Rockford now that he is a fully developed third line type. Nothing wrong with that. Him and Bolland will be great on a line so long as Bolly is playing on the three next year.



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[Franko725]

Your last paragraph is exactly why he can and ought to make questionable moves.

Because it's not the regular season you can't have guys out there with lacking effort or performance for their role.

Id rather have a Rockford guy in over Carcillo but stalberg being fast and playing meh isn't enough to stay in a playoff game.

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That is the whole point, it would be fine with me if they wanted to give Stalberg a wake-up call and put in someone like Smith. To put in a guy like Carcillo that is only going to play six minutes given a perfect situation is not acceptable in the playoffs. And Martini is right when he says that it is only a matter of time until Carcillo gets some really bad penalty called against him.

 

[Diehardfan]

Heard on the score this morning...16 playoff games for Stalgod...0 goals.

I know this post had to be very painful to type, Fisch.

 

[nwfisch]

I know this post had to be very painful to type, Fisch.

I almost drove into oncoming traffic when Edzo said that on the score this morning.

 

[Gunzaan]

I'm sorry, but statements of firing Q because he benched a fast guy who has horrible hands and can't shoot, who from the reports I've seen had a douchey moment when he put himself above the team as he whined about not getting enough PP time on a team loaded with offensive talent, is just hilarious.

Run on sentence? Yup. But gotta love those armchair coaches and GMs. No one here is inside the locker room. Stalberg has been benched before for long stretches of bad play and he has responded positively when he comes back on the ice. How do you know that isn't the situation? On paper, would I rather see Stalberg out ther rather then Carbomb? Sure, but we really have no physical presence on the team, so if you are talking about the 6-8 minutes of play, do you want a non-playoff performer, or possible backup to a star player getting run on?

Fire Quenville chants when you have no clue what is going on behind the scenes. Rofl. Sounds like a typical Score caller.

 

[nwfisch]

I'm sorry, but statements of firing Q because he benched a fast guy who has horrible hands and can't shoot, who from the reports I've seen had a douchey moment when he put himself above the team as he whined about not getting enough PP time on a team loaded with offensive talent, is just hilarious.

Run on sentence? Yup. But gotta love those armchair coaches and GMs. No one here is inside the locker room. Stalberg has been benched before for long stretches of bad play and he has responded positively when he comes back on the ice. How do you know that isn't the situation? On paper, would I rather see Stalberg out ther rather then Carbomb? Sure, but we really have no physical presence on the team, so if you are talking about the 6-8 minutes of play, do you want a non-playoff performer, or possible backup to a star player getting run on?

Fire Quenville chants when you have no clue what is going on behind the scenes. Rofl. Sounds like a typical Score caller.

#FireQ

 

[Franko725]

I'm sorry, but statements of firing Q because he benched a fast guy who has horrible hands and can't shoot, who from the reports I've seen had a douchey moment when he put himself above the team as he whined about not getting enough PP time on a team loaded with offensive talent, is just hilarious.

Run on sentence? Yup. But gotta love those armchair coaches and GMs. No one here is inside the locker room. Stalberg has been benched before for long stretches of bad play and he has responded positively when he comes back on the ice. How do you know that isn't the situation? On paper, would I rather see Stalberg out ther rather then Carbomb? Sure, but we really have no physical presence on the team, so if you are talking about the 6-8 minutes of play, do you want a non-playoff performer, or possible backup to a star player getting run on?

Fire Quenville chants when you have no clue what is going on behind the scenes. Rofl. Sounds like a typical Score caller.

The PP has sucked balls all year long. Who is that on if not the coaching staff? They have run the same scheme for years, and it just does not seem to work anymore. Q has got his guy running it now, and it still sucks. As you point out, this team has way too much talent for it not to perform. And when it comes to the guys that Q has put out there on the PP this year, there have really been some winners on it...

As for Stalberg, like I stated before, I have no problem with sitting him. But, I do have a problem with playing Carcillo or Bollig over a guy like Smith, who has proven in the past that he can be effective in the playoffs. It is only a matter of time until Carcillo pulls a Torres and hurts this team more than he will ever help. He just cannot help himself.

 

[Gunzaan]

I just typed out a nice, long response and my phone fucked it up.

**** that.

 

[Franko725]

I just typed out a nice, long response and my phone fucked it up.

**** that.

That is the reason that I like my dumb phone. No smarts from me needed to only make a phone call, and only minimal to make a text. I have my computer for all of the rest of my stuff.