Senior and Shrine Bowl Discussion Thread

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I remember some guy here mentioning him, and at 240 lbs., Martinez is a big back and needs to on the Bears’ radar!
 
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Kenneth Grant, the NT from Michigan is a behemoth. Gotta wonder what a guy presently prognosticated as a late 1st/early 2nd round pick needs to prove in this game, and what this can can do to elevate him. He already has experience in 4 man front and 3 man front.

Wink Martindale ran a fascinating hybrid look, 4 over 3 scheme, where he’d bunch 3 DL on 1 side of the line then leaves his NT on the other side, or the train, where the 5 techs are stacked wide and and ILB stacks over the NT and both stand up edges stack over the 5Ts and you don’t know which one blitzes.

He and Deone Walker are the top of the board for fat NTs. No, not the 310 lb variety like Andrew Billings, the 340-350+ variety like when we had peak Eddie Goldman a couple years back.

I’d love him with one of the 2nds, whereas I don’t think Walker stays on the board by the end of the 1st round.
 

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Some Notable Senior Bowl Measurements via Jim Nagy​



  • Marshall EDGE Mike Green- 6031v, 251v, 3228 arm
  • Miami TE Elijah Arroyo- 6044v, 251v, 3318 arm
  • Iowa DT Yayha Black- 6055v, 337v, 3500 arm
  • Boston College EDGE Donovan Ezeiruaku- 6022v, 248v, 3448 arm
  • Va Tech WR Da’Quan Felton- 6043v, 222vv 3328 arm
  • Oklahoma State RB Ollie Gordon- 6011v, 233v, 3268 arm
  • Iowa State WR Jayden Higgins- 6036v, 217v, 3328 arm
  • Arkansas DL Landon Jackson- 6054v, 273v, 3358 arm
  • South Carolina LB Demetrius Knight- 6012v, 246v, 3328 arm
  • UCLA TE Moliki Matavao- 6052v, 265v, 3300 arm
  • Mizzou OL Armand Membou- 6036v, 332v, 3400 arm
  • Arizona OL Jonah Savaiinaea- 6036v, 339v, 3458 arm
  • Femi Oladejo- 6026v, 261v, 3348 arm
  • Ole Miss EDGE Princely Umanmielen- 6043v, 264v, 3428 arm
  • Iowa State CB Darien Porter- 6023v, 197v, 3328 arm
  • Kentucky DL Deone Walker- 6072v, 340, 3458 arm

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I’m not the only one crazy enough to think putting Campbell at Center is a good idea!
 
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Kenneth Grant, the NT from Michigan is a behemoth. Gotta wonder what a guy presently prognosticated as a late 1st/early 2nd round pick needs to prove in this game, and what this can can do to elevate him. He already has experience in 4 man front and 3 man front.

Wink Martindale ran a fascinating hybrid look, 4 over 3 scheme, where he’d bunch 3 DL on 1 side of the line then leaves his NT on the other side, or the train, where the 5 techs are stacked wide and and ILB stacks over the NT and both stand up edges stack over the 5Ts and you don’t know which one blitzes.

He and Deone Walker are the top of the board for fat NTs. No, not the 310 lb variety like Andrew Billings, the 340-350+ variety like when we had peak Eddie Goldman a couple years back.

I’d love him with one of the 2nds, whereas I don’t think Walker stays on the board by the end of the 1st round.
I think Walker has the athleticism to be something like an Akiem Hicks type player. Not saying he will, but he is really explosive for a guy that size. I see Grant as more of a Travis Jones type player but with more upside. But I think showing some pass rush in one on ones could really help boost his stock.
 

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Give me Grant next to Gervonta and this defense will kick ass
 
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Walter Nolen is a carbon copy of the 3TECH personnel that Dennis Allen historically utilizes in the middle of his defensive line. Very similar player to Bryan Bresee, only I believe that Nolan is a superior prospect to what Bresee was when he was taken in the 2023 draft class.

Walter Nolen is exactly who the type of complete 3TECH that defense needs and needs now.

If the Bears do go defense I think that Nolan will be the pick and it wouldnt bother me at all.
 

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Walter Nolen is a carbon copy of the 3TECH personnel that Dennis Allen historically utilizes in the middle of his defensive line. Very similar player to Bryan Bresee, only I believe that Nolan is a superior prospect to what Bresee was when he was taken in the 2023 draft class.

Walter Nolen is exactly who the type of complete 3TECH that defense needs and needs now.

If the Bears do go defense I think that Nolan will be the pick and it wouldnt bother me at all.
Definitely not at #10. And I think Tyliek Williams from OSU will be better.
 

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The UDFA Bowl!
Really, there are currently 8 starting QBs in the NFL who participated in the Senior Bowl. Off the top of my head I can think of two players on the Eagles who played in the Senior Bowl, Zack Baun and Lane Johnson. Amazingly none of them were UDFAs.
 
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Definitely not at #10. And I think Tyliek Williams from OSU will be better.
I'm on the Nolan bus. Nolan fits every criteria

Need
Talent/technique
Production
Scheme fit
RAS Score (for what it's worth Nolan is going to crush the RAS)

IMO Nolan is the second best defensive line prospect in this class behind Carter.

If by some chance Williams is better than Nolan, in the eyes of NFL GMs, then God bless him because he won't be on the board at #10

The Bears already have a space eating DT with Billings, now they need a true and complete GAP shooter like Nolan who is every bit as good against the run as he is as a quick twitch pass rusher.
 

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Walter Nolen is a carbon copy of the 3TECH personnel that Dennis Allen historically utilizes in the middle of his defensive line. Very similar player to Bryan Bresee, only I believe that Nolan is a superior prospect to what Bresee was when he was taken in the 2023 draft class.

Walter Nolen is exactly who the type of complete 3TECH that defense needs and needs now.

If the Bears do go defense I think that Nolan will be the pick and it wouldnt bother me at all.

Gervon is the 3 tech?

Not sure why we are already moving on from a guy who had a higher pressure rate than jalen carter this past regular season
 

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NVM i see you have multiple posts saying you dont think gervon is a 3 tech and have never liked him
 

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I'm on the Nolan bus. Nolan fits every criteria

Need
Talent/technique
Production
Scheme fit
RAS Score (for what it's worth Nolan is going to crush the RAS)

IMO Nolan is the second best defensive line prospect in this class behind Carter.

If by some chance Williams is better than Nolan, in the eyes of NFL GMs, then God bless him because he won't be on the board at #10

The Bears already have a space eating DT with Billings, now they need a true and complete GAP shooter like Nolan who is every bit as good against the run as he is as a quick twitch pass rusher.
Tyliek is a beast that can absolutely play 3T, he is not just some space eater just because he is the bigger player at 6'3" 327lb. I think they both will be very good pros, with that said there are lots of good DTs in this draft and that means smart teams will wait longer instead of grabbing one early.

Use that #10 for the best OT on your board and grab that DT #39 or #41
 

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