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It was JT who lost the FO that cost the winning goal. Just saying. I do agree with you though. Although not sure Sharp would help the FO % much.
I also used to think it was Sharps decision but I no longer think that, rather it's 100% a Blackhawk decision and Sharp would play anywhere they slotted him.
IF <I say this for bookie as to not get her panties wedged> the Hawks traded for a player such as Iginla the logical move would be to slot Sharp right back where he was when we won the Cup. It would be logical and could move Bolland back where he belongs on the 3rd line.
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Exactly. As much as I love Ribeiro, he sucks at faceoffs. As much as some people think Roy would help... his faceoff sucks. And Brassard? GTFO!
The one and ONLY guy that has been speculated that can help is Tyler Bozak, and Toronto said they wouldn't trade him. That doesn't mean he won't be traded, but you know for sure the asking price is too high. Even then, he plays in the East, so he may not know too many players tendencies in the West and could struggle at the dot if he's traded here.
Or you can try and nab Ott from BUF but that will never happen lol.
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Definitely agree with that last statement. I think that would make the most sense given the current crop of players on the trade market. That said, Iginla's asking price is way too high (if true: 1st rd pick, blue chip prospect, 2nd tier prospect)... and I can't see the Hawks getting into a bidding war with BOS.
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Yea that's why I said "IF". There aren't a lot of teams willing to part with a legit 2nd line Center that aren't out of the playoff hunt in this short season.
Feaster will walk himself out of getting value for Iginla and that would be icing on the cake. Iginla helps this team no question, but only at a certain price.
Feaster will walk himself out of getting value for Iginla and that would be icing on the cake. Iginla helps this team no question, but only at a certain price.
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Oh, but the folks that feel strongly the Hawks should get Iginla don't feel and act like they're right about their stance? Pfft. Hush before I tender your resume to Eklund or Jaeckal's blogs and tell them you too want to be a rumor-mongering contributing writer. . .or at least a "source" of hot, hot, HOT "e" caliber bombs!
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I'm right about my stance. E5....
We can sell those panties on Ebay for big bucks!
We can sell those panties on Ebay for big bucks!
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Just have Kane play 2nd line center. Maybe if he just gets his chance on the 2nd line we'll see his career take off.
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He was around 50 percent the Cup year when he was more consistently taking face offs. But then again so was Bolland.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Pirri brought up to play on the 2nd line. I can't find any info on his FO% in the AHL, but why not give the kid a shot? He's done well in Rockford.
To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing Morin called up with Sharp and Hossa out. We lost 2 skilled forwards to injuries and we brought up Hayes, who while maybe deserving, doesn't necessarily fill the "skill" void we lost on the other two players.
To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing Morin called up with Sharp and Hossa out. We lost 2 skilled forwards to injuries and we brought up Hayes, who while maybe deserving, doesn't necessarily fill the "skill" void we lost on the other two players.
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What about what I said the other day in Chat with Vermette or Goc? Though I would prefer Vermette. Stupid fucking SJ has been feasting on ANA this week (BTW, thanks SJ!) so they're slowly but surely fighting their way back into the the swing of things otherwise I'd---as usual---want to poach Pavelski from their old, slow asses.
Damn! It's HARD out there even when you're looking at the lottery teams and teams better than lottery but still not playoffs threats and their Cs and weighing their age, their contracts but wanting already sweet FO performance.
Vermette's not too old and he's got speed and he's 60% at the dots for the season and you could take care of your worries for several years to come. What would the Yotes want for his ass? **** it! The NHL owns the Yotes, I think they oughta MAKE them sell Vermette to the Hawks!
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That's what I've been sayin'! Using kids from the feeder system for injury plugging. Plus, McNeill should be heading to Rockford post haste now that PA is finito so it's not like we'd just be taking from The Rock.
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Is Derek Roy going to be the talk now? If the 2nd line center topic is going to be the issue then I suspect rumours are going to heat up now that Iginla is done.
I know Ribeiro is still in rumours but if the Caps have any chance of making the playoffs they can't go dealing him no matter if he is UFA and probably won't be re-signed anyways. Caps are in that tight spot where they shouldn't be sellers but passing up on some sort of return for Ribeiro while his stock is high is a questionable thought. I don't think they deal him myself as the playoff push is probably more important. Who knows. Check what Lebrun and the twittertards have to say. Im sure he has already been traded to Vancouver anyways.
I know Ribeiro is still in rumours but if the Caps have any chance of making the playoffs they can't go dealing him no matter if he is UFA and probably won't be re-signed anyways. Caps are in that tight spot where they shouldn't be sellers but passing up on some sort of return for Ribeiro while his stock is high is a questionable thought. I don't think they deal him myself as the playoff push is probably more important. Who knows. Check what Lebrun and the twittertards have to say. Im sure he has already been traded to Vancouver anyways.
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When my friend in Buffalo was ecstatic to see Derek Roy go when he was traded to Dallas, you know there's a problem with him.
I trust his judgment on that, too.
Maybe go for Brooks Laich instead?
I trust his judgment on that, too.
Maybe go for Brooks Laich instead?
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Honestly, I do not think that Vermette is a bad option. F/O's aside, he is good on the PP and competent enough of the PK. He can play puck possession as well, which would fit the team style.
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I don't like that Vermette is signed at 3.75mil for 2 more seasons.
Offensively...he's no better than Bolland. But better at faceoffs (well, who isn't?) Unless they were to trade Bolland for him...I don't know/am on the fence about Vermette and that contract for 2 more years. I don't think trading Bolland during the season would be good for the locker room, unless it was for a bigger player.
Offensively...he's no better than Bolland. But better at faceoffs (well, who isn't?) Unless they were to trade Bolland for him...I don't know/am on the fence about Vermette and that contract for 2 more years. I don't think trading Bolland during the season would be good for the locker room, unless it was for a bigger player.
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I looked at Laich for my search. I am not bothered by the fact that he's only played a handful of games so far this season because he was out injured. He's at 53% from the dots in that small sample size so that's alright---he tends to hover around 47-53ish % season to season. I was asking for Laich that one offseason he was UFA but he wanted to be a career Cap so what are ya gonna do? Nevertheless for $4-4.5 mil per signed through 2017 at this juncture I think I'd prefer first to go after someone who is even stronger on FOs. I know it seems irrational but I really just want to put the topic of the 2C to fucking rest for years so I can stop having to whinge about it and I'd like someone who brings even more certifiable results on that tip for that coin. But in no way would I be adverse to getting him. He still fulfills all my general criteria.
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What about Cammalleri?
I HATE the 6mil hit...so I'd make CAL keep some of the cap hit for sure....at least 1.5mil.
But he's a center -
FO% - .535% career..... .538% this year
He may not be bad between Kane/Sharp...pretty good goal scorer...good playoff perfomer...
I HATE the 6mil hit...so I'd make CAL keep some of the cap hit for sure....at least 1.5mil.
But he's a center -
FO% - .535% career..... .538% this year
He may not be bad between Kane/Sharp...pretty good goal scorer...good playoff perfomer...
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He's a helluva lot better than Bolland at FOs. Right now he's technically better than Toews at FOs. He's like Toews and those guys who just have a knack for it. See I think the $3.75 mil is pretty damn okay for a 2C who isn't old, isn't slow, and that we could use for years. When you think that 1Cs are the ones who make the $6-$8 mil coin I don't think you can expect a good 2C to go for garbage---whether you have to pay Pavelski $4 mil per or Laich $4-4.5 mil per you got to at least pony up. In an ideal world we could nab an Eller who is on an ELC (and haven't I said it on here for a few years that the Hawks need to work out a deal with teams that have an excess of Cs like MTL and EDM, heh) but the Habs are hardcore contending and while he'd got great size and is very young which are major pluses he also is under 50% on FOs. I guess I don't know how folks feel about taking a risk on someone who doesn't at face value really better the FO stats in the hopes that they can come to CHI and get better at it? It doesn't often appear to be the case that players really improve on FOs.
Here are the current stats for FO leaders. As to be expected, it's overwhelmingly Cs but look at that first page and even halfway through pg 2---so many of them are on contenders who I would imagine wouldn't sell us shit. So take those out and then look for bottom feeder teams and trying to make the playoffs teams and there's just not a lot of choices. The star 1Cs make a shitload as expected. But then there's really not too many 2Cs who when I check their salaries at Capgeek aren't gonna cost you the $3-4.5 mil range. Look at how the Hawks extended Bolland for his $3 mil per because they had 2C asperations and expectations of him. It's been an overpayment for a 3C but I don't think it would be for a 2C. And we haven't minded overpaying for him at 3C because he shut lines the **** down and was post-season invaluable. And keep in mind that I am trying to keep the Hawks transition and puck possession game in mind and so am also looking for guys who have average to excellent speed.
Here's the current FO leaders:
http://www.nhl.com/i...ceOffPercentage
Fiddler's old and DAL is in the playoffs race.
I guess besides my original choices of Vermette (or Pavelski!) or Goc (who's only at $1.7 mil per through next season then is UFA)
maybe we could see if Tallon Cat would do even Smithson if he won't do Goc?
Jay Beagle is great at FOs and has some speed and is only $1 mil per through 2015 but I don't actually consider him 2C material---he's a little too 3C "grinder-y" as my immediate impression. Would people be amenable to Stan seeing if the Caps would deal him? I'm not feeling it though.
I still think we should trade some shit to get someone we know can be a 2C that can handle being on a line with Sharp and Kane and be willing to fork out $2.2 - $4ish mil per for several years if we can.
I've bandied about Stan trying to get Gagner from EDM on here before. He's RFA after this season. On the one hand he's got experience with Kaner and is young, has speed. The tradeoff though is that no one should expect great FO stats.
This 2C shit investigatin' is hard work Dan Tanna!