Silva is the 5th Starter?

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While Mike Quade told reporters after his meeting with general manager Jim Hendry that he would have sleep on the final decisions for the 25 man roster, it appears that the Cubs may already have a plan in place to fill out the rotation as well as a spot in the bullpen.
According to Dan Bernstein of 670 the Score, a Cubs source told him that right now the plan is to have Carlos Silva be the fifth starter despite his lackluster performance in Spring Training, and Andrew Cashner will move to the bullpen. Considering that Silva is essentially forced onto the Cubs 25 man roster because of his salary, the Cubs want to get the most production possible out of him. Silva brings more value to a team as a starting pitcher, thus the idea to have him be the fifth starter. Silva is not a permanent mainstay in the rotation, as the source indicated the Cubs will release him if he falters early on in the season.
However, the Cubs also have their reasons for putting Andrew Cashner back in the bullpen. According to the source, the Cubs feel that the back end of the bullpen which includes Carlos Marmol, Kerry Wood, and Sean Marshall should be able to carry the Cubs. But, they do realize that all three may have periods ineffectiveness whether because of injuries or other reasons. Which is why they want Andrew Cashner in the bullpen as another power arm to ease the pressure off of the other three.
If this is indeed what ends up happening, this would be a foolish move by the Cubs. To begin, Carlos Silva has already proven that he is incapable of being a successful starter for an entire season. It is only a matter of time in which he proves that he is ineffective as a starting pitcher. Meaning it is only a matter of time before the Cubs release him. If the Cubs have an intention of releasing him, why not just do it now instead of waiting till Carlos Silva falters during the regular season. They are almost immediately putting themselves at a disadvantage as they seem to know Silva will not be successful as a starter this season.
As for moving Cashner to the bullpen instead of to Triple A-Iowa where he could work on his skills as a starting pitcher, that is another move in which I do not understand. The Cubs clearly think that Cashner could one day be a top end starter for them. I’d imagine that day is not too far off, but yet the Cubs want him as a reliever this season. That would get rid of any chance of seeing Cashner as a starter this season. The Cubs are not willing to move Cashner back down to the minors, meaning he would not be given the chance to stretch out his arm if the opportunity arrived for him to be a starter this season. Thus putting his transition to starting pitcher back another year.
I thought it was pretty obvious that Andrew Cashner should be the fifth starter, but apparently the Cubs are thinking outside the box.
Carlos Silva to the Rotation, Cashner In The ‘Pen?



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Oh well, after three starts and Silva has an ERA equal to his body fat index, he'll get thrown in the pen and Casher will get the start rotation position.
 

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Cashner's career has just been ruined for fatass Silva to "earn" his money. He'll be earning that money by giving up 16 runs per 9 innings.

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I don't live in Chicago, so how reliable is Dan Bernstein?
 

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I don't live in Chicago, so how reliable is Dan Bernstein?

His station is mostly Sox, but he hasn't really been a source for much I've seen, but he sounds legit.
 

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Bernstein is on 670 the score. He's pretty reliable...


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Cashner's career has just been ruined for fatass Silva to "earn" his money. He'll be earning that money by giving up 16 runs per 9 innings.

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a bit of a reach there....his career has just been ruined? Let's see how it plays out...

Anyone think the move may be A) to protect Cashner and/or B) to keep his innings down?
 

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a bit of a reach there....his career has just been ruined? Let's see how it plays out...

Anyone think the move may be A) to protect Cashner and/or B) to keep his innings down?

No, it's because Ricketts may actually be the cheap ass he's made out to be and this team is not committed to winning.

Cashner going 4 or 5 innings even is better than Silva going 5 or 6.

Screw 84 wins, I'm looking at 76 now.
 

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No, it's because Ricketts may actually be the cheap ass he's made out to be and this team is not committed to winning.

Cashner going 4 or 5 innings even is better than Silva going 5 or 6.

Screw 84 wins, I'm looking at 76 now.

How does this make Ricketts a cheap-ass? We're keeping Silva one way or another.
 

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How does this make Ricketts a cheap-ass? We're keeping Silva one way or another.

Because I'm pissed...

And it is turrible. If you are paying him either way, at least put Silva in the pen where he'll hurt us the least instead of ruining Cashner's chances of being a solid MLB starting pitcher.
 

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No, it's because Ricketts may actually be the cheap ass he's made out to be and this team is not committed to winning.

Cashner going 4 or 5 innings even is better than Silva going 5 or 6.

Screw 84 wins, I'm looking at 76 now.

No way is cashner worth 8 wins. This takes us from 84 to 83 at the most. If even that many wins.
 

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Because I'm pissed...

And it is turrible. If you are paying him either way, at least put Silva in the pen where he'll hurt us the least instead of ruining Cashner's chances of being a solid MLB starting pitcher.

Again, this doesn't "ruing Cashner's chances of being a solid MLB starting pitcher." If anything, it will allow us to pitch him more later in the year, when he takes over the 5th starter role.
 

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No way is cashner worth 8 wins. This takes us from 84 to 83 at the most. If even that many wins.

How is Cashner at most 1 win better than Silva?
 

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There's only 1 positive........ their going to have a bad ass bullpen and one of the best if they all stay healthy. Just let Silva pitch 3 innings.. Cashner 456, Marshall 7, Wood 8 and Marmol 9. That works, lol.
 

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Again, this doesn't "ruing Cashner's chances of being a solid MLB starting pitcher." If anything, it will allow us to pitch him more later in the year, when he takes over the 5th starter role.

If the Cubs are sticking with Silva now after this terrible spring he's had, I doubt anything could make them change their mind during the season.
 

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If the Cubs are sticking with Silva now after this terrible spring he's had, I doubt anything could make them change their mind during the season.

Why arent you pissed Soriano is still the starting LF'er after his 220 obp spring?

Where are your threads asking for Colvin in LF and Soriano to the bench?
 

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How is he not? They are much more similar in terms of production than you realize.

So far this spring, Cashner has had an ERA below 4, certainly good enough to earn a spot.

Silva's ERA has been barely below 16.

That's an extra 12 runs per 9, not really that similar.

Silva was decent last year, but mostly because of Rothschild. Where's he? New York, not here.

Cashner's development as an MLB starter would have been a much better option than putting Silva out there so that we are guaranteed to lose every 5th game.

Even if they were equals, Cashner still should be over Silva in the pecking order.
 
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