Silva is the 5th Starter?

[Jntg4]

I don't really see the big deal...

If he pitches well.... good deal

If he sucks he gets released.

Not the worst thing in the world :shrug:

If they were going to release him they'd do it now. He's staying.

 

[Jntg4]

Why arent you pissed Soriano is still the starting LF'er after his 220 obp spring?

Where are your threads asking for Colvin in LF and Soriano to the bench?

That was never a battle. And Colvin is supposed to be starting just as much as the official starters.

 

[AddisonStation]

If they were going to release him they'd do it now. He's staying.

Well, I'm just going by the story you posted but I don't see why they wouldnt release him or use him as the long man.

 

[poodski]

So far this spring, Cashner has had an ERA below 4, certainly good enough to earn a spot.

Silva's ERA has been barely below 16.

That's an extra 12 runs per 9, not really that similar.

Silva was decent last year, but mostly because of Rothschild. Where's he? New York, not here.

Cashner's development as an MLB starter would have been a much better option than putting Silva out there so that we are guaranteed to lose every 5th game.

Even if they were equals, Cashner still should be over Silva in the pecking order.

So we are going to go off of spring training rather than YEARS of data?

Are you serious? Silva put up better numbers than Cashner last year. Cashners numbers weren't as good as Silvas career numbers either.

Spring training numbers are useless and a ridiculously small sample size.

Should Aducci be playing over Soriano?

Scott Moore over Aramis? I mean he does have 3 HRs to Aramis' zero.

Max Ramirez has 4.5 times more RBIs than Soto. Should he be the opening day catcher?

 

[Jntg4]

So we are going to go off of spring training rather than YEARS of data?

Are you serious? Silva put up better numbers than Cashner last year. Cashners numbers weren't as good as Silvas career numbers either.

Spring training numbers are useless and a ridiculously small sample size.

Should Aducci be playing over Soriano?

Scott Moore over Aramis? I mean he does have 3 HRs to Aramis' zero.

Max Ramirez has 4.5 times more RBIs than Soto. Should he be the opening day catcher?

Cashner's stats were skewed by 2 games.

And it isn't the present that matters.

Cashner had a future as a starter. Now, that is in jeopardy.

Silva, is a bad pitcher who's best days are behind him.

Why SHOULD Silva start?

 

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Cashner's stats were skewed by 2 games.

And it isn't the present that matters.

Cashner had a future as a starter. Now, that is in jeopardy.

Silva, is a bad pitcher who's best days are behind him.

Why SHOULD Silva start?

You've been given several reasons why it's not a huge deal, but you're so frustrated you refuse to listen to them....I'd say the majority of us are done arguing w/ you, big cat.

 

[Jntg4]

You've been given several reasons why it's not a huge deal, but you're so frustrated you refuse to listen to them....I'd say the majority of us are done arguing w/ you, big cat.

No, I've been given reasons Cashner starting isn't a necessity. I haven't heard anything about why Silva SHOULD start, just about why it isn't a big deal.

 

[poodski]

Cashner's stats were skewed by 2 games.

And it isn't the present that matters.

Cashner had a future as a starter. Now, that is in jeopardy.

Silva, is a bad pitcher who's best days are behind him.

Why SHOULD Silva start?

Silva is no where near a bad pitcher and this doesn't jeopardize his future as a starter at all. If Silva struggles he will be cut and Cashner will get the role but there is really no reason for Quade to give it to Cashner.

Sure Cashners stats were skewed by a few bad games but weren't Silva's as well?

 

[AddisonStation]

Cashner's stats were skewed by 2 games.

And it isn't the present that matters.

Cashner had a future as a starter. Now, that is in jeopardy.

Silva, is a bad pitcher who's best days are behind him.

Why SHOULD Silva start?

1. So his contract isn't a complete loss.
2. Hope he pitches well so he can be tradeable

 

[Jntg4]

Silva is no where near a bad pitcher and this doesn't jeopardize his future as a starter at all. If Silva struggles he will be cut and Cashner will get the role but there is really no reason for Quade to give it to Cashner.

Sure Cashners stats were skewed by a few bad games but weren't Silva's as well?

Silva doesn't have a future.

It does jeopardize it, if Silva doesn't struggle and goes a whole season, then Cashner is another year removed from being a starter and will have an even harder time building up the stamina to start.

 

[poodski]

No, I've been given reasons Cashner starting isn't a necessity. I haven't heard anything about why Silva SHOULD start, just about why it isn't a big deal.

Because he is a much more proven pitcher who posted better numbers last year and 11.1 innings doesn't change that.

 

[Jntg4]

1. So his contract isn't a complete loss.
2. Hope he pitches well so he can be tradeable

1. Put him in the pen.
2. I highly doubt he pitches well enough to be even be on teams' radars.

 

[Jntg4]

Because he is a much more proven pitcher who posted better numbers last year and 11.1 innings doesn't change that.

A pitcher proven to not be all that good.

 

[poodski]

Silva doesn't have a future.

It does jeopardize it, if Silva doesn't struggle and goes a whole season, then Cashner is another year removed from being a starter and will have an even harder time building up the stamina to start.

So this is about what's best for Cashner not what's best for the Cub's.

Again though Soriano has no future why not let Colvin start or even Scott
Moore.

 

[Jntg4]

So this is about what's best for Cashner not what's best for the Cub's.

Again though Soriano has no future why not let Colvin start or even Scott
Moore.

Exactly, it is what is best for the Cubs.

Is making your top starting pitching prospect going into the previous season a reliever going to help them at all?

 

[poodski]

A pitcher proven to not be all that good.

Well that's simply not true.

Three seasons above a 3 WAR and four above 2.

When not injured he is a good pitcher.

 

[AddisonStation]

1. Put him in the pen.
2. I highly doubt he pitches well enough to be even be on teams' radars.

I bet the Cubs got calls last season when he started hot.

 

[Jntg4]

Well that's simply not true.

Three seasons above a 3 WAR and four above 2.

When not injured he is a good pitcher.

And most of those were years ago. Burnett used to be good...

 

[Jntg4]

I bet the Cubs got calls last season when he started hot.

They should have traded him then.

 

[poodski]

Exactly, it is what is best for the Cubs.

Is making your top starting pitching prospect going into the previous season a reliever going to help them at all?

That's not at all what you said. You said if Silva does well it screws Cashner. So really you are concerned with Cashner more than the team.

And yes Cashner in the pen with Silva starting actually probably does make us better because they are similar as starters but Cashner is a better reliever.

So if you are looking at what's best for the Cubs if Silva is healthy this is what's best.