Silvy: Bears Front Office Hates Claypool

[Bearly]

Hopefully this is just bullshit, but I have mid expectations for Claypool. Think Tyler Scott will be a better player for us sooner than later.

I didn't hate the trade but it could easily be true though likely overstated. Roll the dice. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. We'll know soon enough.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

You think he got Claypool mid-season last year to try to make a run while simultaneously trading his 2 best defensive players? Really? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but at least to me, it was always about this coming year because the free agent market for WRs was going to be a bad one and the draft wasn't offering a bevy of high-end talent. Hence, Poles trading a second rounder for a physical talent that you weren't going to get either in free agency or the draft. Effectively, he spent his 2nd round pick a half-year early. So yea, you would have liked to see Chase do more last year but him and Fields actually played less than 100 snaps together last year on an otherwise broken pass game.


Maybe for you. See my comments above. I would have liked to see more of course but i'm not ready to call it a failure yet. But like for Fields this year, there's no excuses for Claypool not playing at a high level this year. It's all there for him, he needs to perform.

Robert Quinn wasn't the Bears best defensive player from a year ago. He had one sack at the time of the trade. The Quinn trade because they knew they messed up by not trading him in the off season after his 18 sack season.

Poles proving early on he didn't know what the hell he was doing. Quinn should have been traded and they should have offered Smith the money get from the Ravens.

Then there was the Teven Jenkins debacle. Now they're playing games with Jaylon Johnson. It's been a classic example of Poles not knowing what in the hell to do.

Great talking points from the GM about character and the guys who fit our culture meanwhile Nate Davis doesn't like to show up for OTAs so I guess he's not a leader.

All around this is getting comical.

 

[msadows]

Robert Quinn wasn't the Bears best defensive player from a year ago. He had one sack at the time of the trade. The Quinn trade because they knew they messed up by not trading him in the off season after his 18 sack season.

Poles proving early on he didn't know what the hell he was doing. Quinn should have been traded and they should have offered Smith the money get from the Ravens.

Then there was the Teven Jenkins debacle. Now they're playing games with Jaylon Johnson. It's been a classic example of Poles not knowing what in the hell to do.

Great talking points from the GM about character and the guys who fit our culture meanwhile Nate Davis doesn't like to show up for OTAs so I guess he's not a leader.

All around this is getting comical.

What we think every time you click post reply.

Thanks for giving us a laugh from time to time!

 

[msadows]

Did you fund your sons College education with your expert scouting?

 

[remydat]

It's extremely rare for the Bears to leak this type of information out into the ethos like this. They don't usually source information where they go and rip a player for not doing the things they hoped he would be doing. This type of leak is not how the Bears operate and it's never been how the Bears operate. So either it's an entirely bullshit report (which is not likely the case given the fact that it's coming from Silvy on the Bears new flagship radio station ESPN 1000) or the same crap that Claypool pulled in Pittsburgh is happening in Chicago.

Take a swing on the odds of which is most likely....

The Bears went on the record regarding Jenkins and his practice habits or lack thereof. They went so far to rotate him early in the season.

So no it is not rare for this regime which has only been around for a year. The difference is when they had issues with Jenkins they said so. Everything they have said on the record about Claypool has been positive so this anonymous report carries very little weight at this point.

 

[HeHateMe]

The Bears went on the record regarding Jenkins and his practice habits or lack thereof. They went so far to rotate him early in the season.

So no it is not rare for this regime which has only been around for a year. The difference is when they had issues with Jenkins they said so. Everything thry have said on the record about Claypool has been positive so this anonymous report carries very little weight at this point.

I'm surprised you didn't take notice of his usage of "ethos" as well. GOSHNESS STUFF LIKE THAT FROM A "WRITER" MAKES ME SICK!

 

[remydat]

so QB1 has no say? guarantee he does. Justin and the wr coach isn't comfortable with his routes which trickled down to the rest.

Claypool's dog house status started with the qb1 and wr coach. duh

Fields
“Chase has improved tremendously, just from the end of last year to now,” Fields said. “That's one thing I'm truly proud to say, just seeing his work ethic, his attitude change, you can just see he's taken another step. Definitely excited for that.”

Tolbert
#Bears WR coach Tyke Tolbert with more praise for Chase Claypool: "I’m excited where he is. He’s more into what we’re doing offensively. He asks a lot of good questions. He’s here extra too — when he doesn’t have to be here, he’s here doing a lot of extra things, trying to get better, watching tape on his own, that kinda thing. He’s a big target, as we know. People forget that he’s 230 pounds but he ran a 4.42. He’s really fast. He was out here, and he was getting behind the defense a few times."

Getsy
"I think comfortability within the building, whether that’s being around the head coach, being around us on the offensive staff, his teammates," offensive coordinator Luke Getsy said Wednesday when asked where he sees a difference in Claypool. "And then, most importantly, Justin. I think that relationship is always the most important — the quarterback/receiver relationship. I think all that’s improving. As far as his knowledge of what’s going on around him, that’s improving. Because we demand a lot of that position, as we’ve talked about here plenty of times. That’s a big part of what we do with that role. It’s been good to see him be able to take a step there.

"To say where he is now, obviously, he’s definitely in a much better place. That’s what’s most important. Like coach Flus and those guys have said, I think that his positivity, his optimism coming into this thing, and his attack and his approach to how he’s trying to learn this thing is really cool to see."

 

[DanielCCSBears]

The Bears went on the record regarding Jenkins and his practice habits or lack thereof. They went so far to rotate him early in the season.

So no it is not rare for this regime which has only been around for a year. The difference is when they had issues with Jenkins they said so. Everything thry have said on the record about Claypool has been positive so this anonymous report carries very little weight at this point.

Anonymous report carries very little weight? These are the exact same things he was criticized for in Pittsburgh. Not like he has a past of problems that directly correlate to this report. I swear you guys will bend over backwards for guys.

Interestingly enough you and I both don't have to worry about the guys who come in here and do exactly what we expect them to do, you know like DJ Moore. Moore doesn't need to learn the playbook, he's going out there and immediately making his presence known. He's making big time catches and seamlessly developing chemistry with Justin Fields. Why? Because he's a damn good player and we don't have to worry about him. Hopefully it carries over into a massive season for him, but if he comes up short, I won't blame it on DJ Moore. Claypool should be a proven commodity by now.

Meanwhile, the concerns we had with Claypool in Pittsburgh are rearing their ugly heads in Chicago.

 

[Wild_x_Card]

The same old bullshit excuses. "He needs to be in the right situation." Yeah I guess Randy Moss needed to be in the right situation, Warren Sapp needed to be in the right situation. Stop overblowing the media reports on him that have nothing to do with him as a player. These are the same bullshit talking points that get rehashed in politics. You're ignoring the player and regurgitating the Chicago media talking points that excuse the Bears passing on Carter.

The talking points for Carter are like the talking points going around for Justin Fields and Chase Claypool. Justin Fields is a good leader, he works hard in the off season, he's buried in the playbook, he watches a lot of film. Justin Fields will be better when he has a better offensive line, and better receivers. Chase Claypool will be better with a change of scenery, Claypool will be better when he's not the number one receiver, Claypool will be better with an off-season to grow in the Bears offense.

Notice DJ Moore doesn't need any talking points. Teven Jenkins doesn't need any talking points.

Load up on those talking points, heard the same crap about Jalen Carter for the past 5 months.

The term generational talent gets way overstated. Carter is not that. He's a really good prospect outside of the off the field stuff. I was a a fan of his game. I was also cool with the bears passing on him. I predicted they would if they had a chance to draft him. Carter is not a generational talent. He wasn't even a better prospect than Quinnen Williams who came out just a few years ago.


And as much as I love Carter's ability to win with his 2nd and third moves. His arm over, swim, really heavy hands and first step are all fantastic. if you really look closely at his tape. He spends a lot of time on the ground, like an alarming amount. Which is mind blowing when you consider how insane of an athlete he is at his size.

 

[remydat]

Anonymous report carries very little weight? These are the exact same things he was criticized for in Pittsburgh. Not like he has a past of problems that directly correlate to this report. I swear you guys will bend over backwards for guys.

Interestingly enough you and I both don't have to worry about the guys who come in here and do exactly what we expect them to do, you know like DJ Moore. Moore doesn't need to learn the playbook, he's going out there and immediately making his presence known. He's making big time catches and seamlessly developing chemistry with Justin Fields. Why? Because he's a damn good player and we don't have to worry about him. Hopefully it carries over into a massive season for him, but if he comes up short, I won't blame it on DJ Moore. Claypool should be a proven commodity by now.

Meanwhile, the concerns we had with Claypool in Pittsburgh are rearing their ugly heads in Chicago.

You seem confused. This regime has no problem calling out players as we saw with Jenkins. So yes anonymous reports carry little weight when we can just hear on the record what the Bears are saying about Claypool.

What is the below telling you? I would think a journalist should know on the record comments trump anonymous sources.

Fields
“Chase has improved tremendously, just from the end of last year to now,” Fields said. “That's one thing I'm truly proud to say, just seeing his work ethic, his attitude change, you can just see he's taken another step. Definitely excited for that.”

Tolbert
#Bears WR coach Tyke Tolbert with more praise for Chase Claypool: "I’m excited where he is. He’s more into what we’re doing offensively. He asks a lot of good questions. He’s here extra too — when he doesn’t have to be here, he’s here doing a lot of extra things, trying to get better, watching tape on his own, that kinda thing. He’s a big target, as we know. People forget that he’s 230 pounds but he ran a 4.42. He’s really fast. He was out here, and he was getting behind the defense a few times."

Getsy
"I think comfortability within the building, whether that’s being around the head coach, being around us on the offensive staff, his teammates," offensive coordinator Luke Getsy said Wednesday when asked where he sees a difference in Claypool. "And then, most importantly, Justin. I think that relationship is always the most important — the quarterback/receiver relationship. I think all that’s improving. As far as his knowledge of what’s going on around him, that’s improving. Because we demand a lot of that position, as we’ve talked about here plenty of times. That’s a big part of what we do with that role. It’s been good to see him be able to take a step there.

"To say where he is now, obviously, he’s definitely in a much better place. That’s what’s most important. Like coach Flus and those guys have said, I think that his positivity, his optimism coming into this thing, and his attack and his approach to how he’s trying to learn this thing is really cool to see."

 

[DanielCCSBears]

You seem confused. This regime has no problem calling out players as we saw with Jenkins. So yes anonymous reports carry little weight when we can just hear on the record what the Bears are saying about Claypool.

What is the below telling you? I would think a journalist should know on the record comments trump anonymous sources.

Fields
“Chase has improved tremendously, just from the end of last year to now,” Fields said. “That's one thing I'm truly proud to say, just seeing his work ethic, his attitude change, you can just see he's taken another step. Definitely excited for that.”

Tolbert
#Bears WR coach Tyke Tolbert with more praise for Chase Claypool: "I’m excited where he is. He’s more into what we’re doing offensively. He asks a lot of good questions. He’s here extra too — when he doesn’t have to be here, he’s here doing a lot of extra things, trying to get better, watching tape on his own, that kinda thing. He’s a big target, as we know. People forget that he’s 230 pounds but he ran a 4.42. He’s really fast. He was out here, and he was getting behind the defense a few times."

Getsy
"I think comfortability within the building, whether that’s being around the head coach, being around us on the offensive staff, his teammates," offensive coordinator Luke Getsy said Wednesday when asked where he sees a difference in Claypool. "And then, most importantly, Justin. I think that relationship is always the most important — the quarterback/receiver relationship. I think all that’s improving. As far as his knowledge of what’s going on around him, that’s improving. Because we demand a lot of that position, as we’ve talked about here plenty of times. That’s a big part of what we do with that role. It’s been good to see him be able to take a step there.

"To say where he is now, obviously, he’s definitely in a much better place. That’s what’s most important. Like coach Flus and those guys have said, I think that his positivity, his optimism coming into this thing, and his attack and his approach to how he’s trying to learn this thing is really cool to see."

Now comes the piece from 670 the score during their Bears camp hint.... Claypool's soft tissue injury was deemed minor and the Bears him expected to be on the field during mandatory mini-camp this week. Doesn't help that all of those quotes are over a week old, well past this week's mandatory three day mini-camp.

 

[remydat]

Now comes the piece from 670 the score during their Bears camp hint.... Claypool's soft tissue injury was deemed minor and the Bears him expected to be on the field during mandatory mini-camp this week. Doesn't help that all of those quotes are over a week old, well past this week's mandatory three day mini-camp.

It doesnt help that none of the above people are on the record saying they have an issue with his injury. So again when Jenkins was sucking in practice they told us they had a problem with it. So if they really have an issue with Claypool then I think they would just say so.

I also find it dubious that anyone can say a soft tissue injury is minor. The whole problem with soft tissue injuries is they are hard to assess because it is soft tissue. Duh! So until a Bears official goes on record, it sounds like bullshit to me.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

It doesnt help that none of the above people are on the record saying they have an issue with his injury. So again when Jenkins was sucking in practice they told us they had a problem with it. So if they really have an issue with Claypool then I think they would just say so.

I also find it dubious that anyone can say a soft tissue injury is minor. The whole problem with soft tissue injuries is they are hard to assess because it is soft tissue. Duh! So until a Bears official goes on record, it sounds like bullshit to me.

Two different reports from different stations and you remain unconvinced....okay then this debate is over.

Don't look now but most of the beat reporters are completely underwhelmed by Justin Fields during this OTA mini-camp period.

 

[clenbuterol_clint]

Two different reports from different stations and you remain unconvinced....okay then this debate is over.

Don't look now but most of the beat reporters are completely underwhelmed by Justin Fields during this OTA mini-camp period.

This is starting to feel like a "The Secret Window" situation, if you know what I mean Dan.

 

[Bust]

Don't look now but most of the beat reporters are completely underwhelmed by Justin Fields during this OTA mini-camp period.

they 7 on 7 drills in shorts. big whoop

it starts week 1 vs jordan love's Packers. Home game too. It's literally MUST WIN. Can't start off in the hole 0-1 against a division opponent yet again . . .

 

[remydat]

Two different reports from different stations and you remain unconvinced....okay then this debate is over.

Don't look now but most of the beat reporters are completely underwhelmed by Justin Fields during this OTA mini-camp period.

Who is making the claims? You dont know. I again will stick to on the record comments from Tolbert, Fields and Getsy.

Your second paragraph is irrelevant to the topic.

 

[Nelly]

Robert Quinn wasn't the Bears best defensive player from a year ago. He had one sack at the time of the trade. The Quinn trade because they knew they messed up by not trading him in the off season after his 18 sack season.

Poles proving early on he didn't know what the hell he was doing. Quinn should have been traded and they should have offered Smith the money get from the Ravens.

Then there was the Teven Jenkins debacle. Now they're playing games with Jaylon Johnson. It's been a classic example of Poles not knowing what in the hell to do.

Great talking points from the GM about character and the guys who fit our culture meanwhile Nate Davis doesn't like to show up for OTAs so I guess he's not a leader.

All around this is getting comical.

All your opinion. I know Quinn wasn't the player he was a year before but he was still the best D-lineman we had. I'd rather have Edmunds, Dexter and T. Smith over Roquan anyway. Not sure what Jenkins debacle you're talking about as he's been the best o-lineman we've had when healthy so what they did last offseason with him seems to have worked. Not sure how they're playing games with Jaylon Johnson. If you're going to slam Poles for bringing in a guy like Nate Davis who missed OTAs then why not extend that to Jaylon Johnson, the only other guy of note to miss them? They were voluntary so i don't hold that against either guy.

I think Poles is doing a great job so far but that's before his second draft class has even taken the real field. Long way to go. He may have made a mistake with Claypool, we'll be able to answer that pretty early this coming season.

 

[remydat]

All your opinion. I know Quinn wasn't the player he was a year before but he was still the best D-lineman we had. I'd rather have Edmunds, Dexter and T. Smith over Roquan. Not sure what Jenkins debacle you're talking about as he's been the best o-lineman we've had when healthy so what they did last offseason with him seems to have worked. Not sure how they're playing games with Jaylon Johnson.

I think Poles is doing a great job so far but that's before his second draft class has even taken the real field. Long way to go.

This dude just contradicts himself.

Character and attitude are an issue for Claypool but not for Carter.

Character and attitude is a problem but when a team disciplines a player (Jenkins) to get them in line it is a problem.

So it sounds like he wants guys with character issues that he likes and doesnt want the team to make any effort to fix those issues for players he likes.

 

[CaliBearFan]

Two different reports from different stations and you remain unconvinced....okay then this debate is over.

Don't look now but most of the beat reporters are completely underwhelmed by Justin Fields during this OTA mini-camp period.

What world do you live in?
Reports on the observable OTA practices were universally glowing about Fields and his improvement.

It wasn't until mini camp yesterday that anyone said he had a bad day.

 

[msadows]

What world do you live in?
Reports on the observable OTA practices were universally glowing about Fields and his improvement.

It wasn't until mini camp yesterday that anyone said he had a bad day.

There is also a post on reddit from a beat reporter saying fields looked fantastic today.

Daniel clearly has never watched a practice, as opinions for non padded 7v7s always differ based on who you ask. Most of these beat guys aren't any more educated on football than a poster like Remydat, they just get paid to write unlike Daniel.

This is why I usually judge my opinions on players based on what I actually see with my own eyes at Training camp when I go....