Soldier Awarded Medal Of Honor, And You Can Now See What He Did

[BiscuitintheBasket]

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Military thing. Long hair parted down the middle and grape soda consumption was equated with undesirable traits in a GI for old school Air Force NCOs. Kind of a running joke when I enlisted. Not sure if it was throughout the services or not.


And I'm just poking fun at Biscuit's reaction to my comment aboot the guys hair. If I ever had the honor of breathing the same oxygen as this guy the last thing I'd be concerned aboot was how clean shaven and in reg his hair cut was.</p>
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Wasn't thinking Air Force, but now that you mention it :icon-smile:. I was thinking Radar from MASH, since that is what he drank.


I also didn't catch you making fun of the hair. That was more a comment from other social media that are military focused.</p>

 

[The Count Dante]

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Wasn't thinking Air Force, but now that you mention it :icon-smile:. I was thinking Radar from MASH, since that is what he drank.


I also didn't catch you making fun of the hair. That was more a comment from other social media that are media focuses.</p>
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I wasnt either since it was mentioned it was a MILITARY thing...</p>


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HA! ZING!</p>


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<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium;">There are glaring language differences between the services that protect our nation. Here is an example:</p>
<ul>[*]When the Navy secures a building, they turn out the lights and lock the hatches.
[*]When the Army secures a building, they post sentries and check I.D. cards.
[*]When the Marines secure a building, they call in air strikes and assault through the objective using fire and close combat.
[*]When the Air Force secures a building, they get a 4 year lease with the option for 4 more years.
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[BiscuitintheBasket]

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<span style="font-size:18px;">I wasnt either since it was mentioned it was a MILITARY thing...</span></p>


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HA! ZING!</p>


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<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium;">There are glaring language differences between the services that protect our nation. Here is an example:</p>
<ul>[*]When the Navy secures a building, they turn out the lights and lock the hatches.
[*]When the Army secures a building, they post sentries and check I.D. cards.
[*]When the Marines secure a building, they call in air strikes and assault through the objective using fire and close combat.
[*]When the Air Force secures a building, they get a 4 year lease with the option for 4 more years.
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[winos5]

The recruiter said I wasn't ugly enough to be a marine.  I didn't like comic books so the Army recruiter said I wouldn't understand Army training manuals.   I didn't like Navy or Coastie uniforms so that left the Air force...</p>

 

[The Count Dante]

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The recruiter said I wasn't ugly enough to be a marine.  I didn't like comic books so the Army recruiter said I wouldn't understand Army training manuals.   I didn't like Navy or Coastie uniforms so that left the Air force...</p>
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Good Point! </p>


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Now, what does the Air Force call their basic training since it is what 4 weeks? Day Care?</p>


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Commands heard in Air Force Basic:</p>


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Call Buffy on your Cell Phone now... 5, 4, 3...YOUR DONE!</p>


Eat your lobster now... 5..4..3..2..1.. YOUR DONE!</p>


Commence 12 hour H.T.A. Ops. (Horizontal Time Acceleration: sleep).</p>


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I kid the Flyboys... More so because we always stole the Air Force chickies away. Since a Marine can kill a man with one hand, make love to a woman with the other...at the same time... it is no wonder the Flyboys might be mad.</p>


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In all seriousness, knowing what I know now, and not regretting my USMC time... I should have been a flyboy...</p>

 

[BigPete]

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You might be surprised. Combat units have a... weird relationship. Tough to describe, it is like a hyper-focus. I didnt watch the video but familiar with the event. My guess is he didnt even think twice about it. </p>
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Well, you know the cleche "some people run into a dangerous situation, while others run from it."</p>


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I was never in a firefight, but I know in my heart of hearts that I would have run into the fray.  </p>

 

[BigPete]

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The recruiter said I wasn't ugly enough to be a marine.  I didn't like comic books so the Army recruiter said I wouldn't understand Army training manuals.   I didn't like Navy or Coastie uniforms so that left the Air force...</p>
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Hey, I could train a monkey to disarm a nuke IN FLIGHT with those 'cartoonish' Army Field Manuals.  So I don't want any of your flack, Chair Force!</p>

 

[The Count Dante]

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Well, you know the cleche "some people run into a dangerous situation, while others run from it."</p>


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I was never in a firefight, but I know in my heart of hearts that I would have run into the fray. </p>
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That is one benefit to the training and lifestyle they force you to live. Not one guy that was in my unit, even the shitbirds and the guys I couldnt stand, did I ever question their run into the fray, nor do I have any story to share about a guy in my unit turning and running. </p>


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Now after, each person dealt with crap in their own way, some in eccentric yet not entirely unhealthy ways (like yours truly), some in very unhealthy ways (with guys coming back from lunch with 3 1/5s of booze at lunch for that evening, drug use, etc.)</p>


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But in the thick of it? I cant think of one story of hesitance.</p>

 

[The Count Dante]

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Hey, I could train a monkey to disarm a nuke IN FLIGHT with those 'cartoonish' Army Field Manuals.  So I don't want any of your flack, Chair Force!</p>
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[BiscuitintheBasket]

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Hey, I could train a monkey to disarm a nuke IN FLIGHT with those 'cartoonish' Army Field Manuals.  So I don't want any of your flack, Chair Force!</p>
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You sure, you don't seem like the agressive type rcs-buttshake:</p>

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

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That is one benefit to the training and lifestyle they force you to live. Not one guy that was in my unit, even the shitbirds and the guys I couldnt stand, did I ever question their run into the fray, nor do I have any story to share about a guy in my unit turning and running. </p>


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Now after, each person dealt with crap in their own way, some in eccentric yet not entirely unhealthy ways (like yours truly), some in very unhealthy ways (with guys coming back from lunch with 3 1/5s of booze at lunch for that evening, drug use, etc.)</p>


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But in the thick of it? I cant think of one story of hesitance.</p>
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From my expericence, the hesitance usually came from the first and\or 2nd action to get their cherry popped.   After that, no second thought.</p>

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">Obviously Army the Marines are part of the Dept. of Navy as the acronym for Marine defines:</span></p>

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My</p>


Ass</p>


Rides</p>


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Naval</p>


Equipment</p>

 

[winos5]

Ugly</p>


Stupid</p>


Misguided</p>


Children</p>

 

[winos5]

Uncle</p>


Sam's</p>


Munitions</p>


Catcher</p>

 

[winos5]

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Hey, I could train a monkey to disarm a nuke IN FLIGHT with those 'cartoonish' Army Field Manuals.  So I don't want any of your flack, Chair Force!</p>
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It worked well for you right?</p>

 

[IceHogsFan]

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"In seven hours of continuous fighting, Swenson braved intense enemy fire, and willfully put his life in danger against the enemy's main effort, multiple times in service of his fallen and wounded comrades, his unit, his country, and his endangered Afghan partners. Displaying conspicuous gallantry at the risk of his own life and well beyond the call of duty, Swenson would be a most deserving recipient of the Medal of Honor."</p>


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Jako-abridged-notes</p>


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The fuckery came from repeated calls for assistance that did not come.   He choose to lead the troops out of the area, and did so with his life in a position of danger most of the time of the "retreat".   He lost only a minimal number of troops on the escape.</p>


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The cocksuckery continued when he brought the lack of support to the attention of those above him.  They did not like it, and low speed\high dragged his career.  Some are still putting Ruutu (him) in an corner in some sense. </p>


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Many of those part of that incident continued to fight for him to return to service and get some type of bravery and valor award.   They got in touch with many of the right poeple for MoH to rightfully happen.   Some of those people I know from other circles in my life.</p>


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Finally, I am amazed at how many people (outside of IHN), gripe more about his hair cut than celebrate what he did.   And these are military types. </p>
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Well said Biscuit.</p>

 

[TSD]

in going with the topic.  I recommend this book to everyone:</p>


http://www.amazon.com/Medal-Honor-Edition-Peter-Collier/dp/1579654622</p>


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It features the stories of all the (still living) medal of honor recipients up the the time it was written (i think it has more now than my copy as this one may be revised to include a person or 2 from the modern middle east conflicts.)</p>


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If you wanna hear some crazy ass shit, read that book.   Many of those stories will have you scratching your head on how they made it out alive.</p>


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There are seriously stories in there that make Rambo look like a chump.</p>

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

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in going with the topic.  I recommend this book to everyone:</p>


http://www.amazon.com/Medal-Honor-Edition-Peter-Collier/dp/1579654622</p>


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It features the stories of all the (still living) medal of honor recipients up the the time it was written (i think it has more now than my copy as this one may be revised to include a person or 2 from the modern middle east conflicts.)</p>


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If you wanna hear some crazy ass shit, read that book.   Many of those stories will have you scratching your head on how they made it out alive.</p>


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There are seriously stories in there that make Rambo look like a chump.</p>
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Yea that is a great read.</p>


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Another, which is not as "exciting", but talks about the OSS rescues of bommer crews in Yugoslavia in WII is the Forgotten 500  http://www.amazon.com/The-Forgotten-500-Greatest-Mission/dp/0451224957/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382197443&sr=8-1&keywords=the+forgotten+500</p>

 

[The Count Dante]

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<span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt;">Obviously Army the Marines are part of the Dept. of Navy as the acronym for Marine defines:</span></p>


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 </p>


My</p>


Ass</p>


Rides</p>


In</p>


Naval</p>


Equipment</p>
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True! Although the "My Ass Really Is Navy Equipment, Sir" is more my favorite. </p>


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Aint</p>


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Men</p>


Yet</p>


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Ugly</p>


Stupid</p>


Misguided</p>


Children</p>
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All but the "U"? True! The "Ugly" is just jealousy as we all know there are 2 types of women: Women that love Marines and Women that have been burnt by Marines.</p>


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Uncle</p>


Sam's</p>


Munitions</p>


Catcher</p>
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True!</p>


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Dammit... a lot of "true" for humor...</p>


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So... I shall retort!!</p>


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<span style="color:rgb(20,20,21);font-family:'proxima-nova', 'Helvetica Neue', HelveticaNeue, Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(234,234,235);">The Army spent millions of dollars developing a pen that could write in space. The Marines just used a pencil.</span></p>


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But always remember rule number 1:</p>


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Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap, Life is expensive. </p>

 

[The Count Dante]

One of my favorites:</p>


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Haircuts:
<ul>[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Marines:</span> Heads will be shaved.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Army:</span> Stylish flat-top's for all recruits.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Navy:</span> No haircut standard.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Air Force:</span> Complete makeovers as seen on the Jenny Jones show.
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Training Hours:
<ul>[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Marines:</span> Reveille at 0500, train until 2000.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Army:</span> Reveille at 0600, train until 1900.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Navy:</span> Get out of bed at 0900, train until 1100, lunch until 1300, train until 1600.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Air Force:</span> Awaken at 1000, breakfast in bed, train from 1100 to 1200, lunch at 1200, train from 1300 to 1400, nap at 1400, awaken from nap at 1500, training ceases at 1500.
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Meals:
<ul>[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Marines:</span> Meals, Ready-to-Eat 3 times a day.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Army:</span> One hot meal, 2 MRE's.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Navy:</span> 3 hot meals.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Air Force:</span> Catered meals prepared by the Galloping Gourmet, Julia Child, and Wolfgang Puck and Emeril Lagasse. All you can eat.
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Leave And Liberty:
<ul>[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Marines:</span> None.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Army:</span> 4 hours a week.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Navy:</span> 2 days a week.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Air Force:</span> For every four hours of training, recruits will receive eight hours of leave and liberty.
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Protocol:
<ul>[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Marines:</span> Will address all officers as "Sir," and refer to the rank of all enlisted members when speaking to them (i.e., Sgt. Smith).
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Army:</span> Will address all officers as "Sir," unless they are friends, and will call all enlisted personnel "Sarge."
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Navy:</span> Will address all officers as "Skipper," and all enlisted personnel as "Chief."
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Air Force:</span> All Air Force personnel shall be on a first name basis with each other.
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Decorations/Awards:
<ul>[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Marines:</span> Medals and badges are awarded for acts of gallantry and bravery only.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Army:</span> Medals and badges are awarded for every bullet fired, hand grenade thrown, fitness test passed, and bed made.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Navy:</span> Will have ships' engineers make medals for them as desired.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Air Force:</span> Will be issued all medals and badges, as they will most likely be awarded them at some point early in their careers anyway.
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Camouflage Uniforms:
<ul>[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Marines:</span> Work uniform, to be worn only during training and in field situations.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Army:</span> Will wear it anytime, anywhere.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Navy:</span> Will not wear camouflage uniforms, they do not camouflage you on a ship. (Ship Captains will make every effort to attempt to explain this to sailors.)
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Air Force:</span> Will defeat the purpose of camouflage uniforms by putting blue and silver chevrons and colorful squadron patches all over them.
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Career Fields:
<ul>[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Marines:</span> All Marines shall be considered riflemen first and foremost.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Army:</span> It doesn't matter, all career fields promote to E-8 in first enlistment anyway.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Navy:</span> Nobody knows. The Navy is still trying figure out what sailors in the ABH, SMC, BNC and BSN rates do anyway.
[*]<span style="margin:0px;">Air Force:</span> Every recruit will be trained in a manner that will allow them to leave the service early to go on to higher paying civilian jobs.
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