Sources: Expect Cubs to spend next winter

[KBisBack!]

I'm referring to K saying that he'd rather be at 500 or in the hunt for the playoffs every year and stuck in mediocrity instead of blowing it up for a year or so then instead of being mediocre you break past what you were. Sometimes you have to go down to go up.

First off, I said I would rather make every effort to win 80 games in a season rather than not try and lose 100 games. I say you have to try to the maximum of effort and resources to put the best possible team on the field every season.

Secondly, there is no guarantee and a 0% percent better chance that blowing it up will break you past what you were than trying to field the best team every year.

Sometimes when you go down to go up, you get stuck being down and can't even make it back to where you were for quite sometime.

But none of the slurpers want to accept that very realistic fact.

 

[KBisBack!]

No team has ever made moves for the future that paid off? Only the present ever matters in sports? Seems pretty myopic to me.

Ask a coach who got fired while he developed a young QB if anything but the present matters in sports.

Tell me this, will this year's champion be determined by who wins the most games or who has the most top 100 prospects?

Of course SOME moves for the future pay off. But guess what? In baseball MOST of the moves for the future do not pay off.

I can't think of one team off the top of my head, that completely threw away seasons like the Cubs have the past two years that ended up turning it around into a consistent winning baseball team that most of you think is guaranteed in as short a time as you think it will take.

Fire away. I am sure there will be many lining up to prove me wrong.

 

[Boobaby1]

People aren't really talking about him but, I think Jon Lester would be a great pickup for the Cubs if the Red Sox decline his club option for 2014. I hope they bring back Matt Garza as well if he is not traded during this season.

1. Matt Garza
2. Jon Lester
3. Jeff Samardzija
4. Edwin Jackson
5. Travis Wood

That's a pretty good pitching rotation.

Throw in Appel or Gray into that rotation, and it becomes younger and stronger. Even at 2nd pick, Gray has the make-up in my opinion to be at least as good as Cashner if not better. Keep that in mind.

 

[The Bandit]

Throw in Appel or Gray into that rotation, and it becomes younger and stronger. Even at 2nd pick, Gray has the make-up in my opinion to be at least as good as Cashner if not better. Keep that in mind.

Think he can stay on the field unlike cashner? That trade looks better and better so far.

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[The Bandit]

Ask a coach who got fired while he developed a young QB if anything but the present matters in sports.

Tell me this, will this year's champion be determined by who wins the most games or who has the most top 100 prospects?

Of course SOME moves for the future pay off. But guess what? In baseball MOST of the moves for the future do not pay off.

I can't think of one team off the top of my head, that completely threw away seasons like the Cubs have the past two years that ended up turning it around into a consistent winning baseball team that most of you think is guaranteed in as short a time as you think it will take.

Fire away. I am sure there will be many lining up to prove me wrong.

The Phillies. Utley Howard Rollins victorino hamels Ruiz rolen burrell bastardo lieberthal to name a few phils specs I saw in triple a. When they made it back Howard Utley Rollins were the meat of the order and burrell with Ruiz and victorino us an ace so yeah you can do it with the farm.

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[KBisBack!]

The Phillies. Utley Howard Rollins victorino hamels Ruiz rolen burrell bastardo lieberthal to name a few phils specs I saw in triple a. When they made it back Howard Utley Rollins were the meat of the order and burrell with Ruiz and victorino us an ace so yeah you can do it with the farm.

And the Phillies went FOURTEEN seasons between playoff trips from 1993-2007.

Significantly longer then the couple seasons you think it will take the Cubs to turn it around.

Next.

 

[KBisBack!]

so yeah you can do it with the farm.

Never said it was impossible to do it with the farm, pay attention son.

I have said that the odds are very low that it will happen using just the farm and takes many, many, many years of not going to the playoffs to happen. Not just a couple seasons like the spankfest has been brainwashed into believing is possible.

 

[dabears253313]

Throw in Appel or Gray into that rotation, and it becomes younger and stronger. Even at 2nd pick, Gray has the make-up in my opinion to be at least as good as Cashner if not better. Keep that in mind.

I can't wait until the draft. I think the Astros might take Gray, kind of like the Chiefs taking Eric Fisher over Luke Joeckel when Joeckel was talked about as the number one pick for a while for the NFL draft.

Sean Manaea would be a good pick for the Cubs as well but I think his draft stock dropped a little bit.

Nice young rotation.

 

[Jntg4]

Lol at despite only being a number 2 pick, Gray could be as good as Cashner... Way to aim high guys, Cashner isn't all that amazing.

 

[SilenceS]

Lol at despite only being a number 2 pick, Gray could be as good as Cashner... Way to aim high guys, Cashner isn't all that amazing.

Cashner has hit 103 on the gun. How many pitchers can do that? Gray needs more polishing then Appel, but his ceiling is supposively a little higher. KLAW said the other day it is Appel and Gray at the top and the rest are behind them. He also said the Cubs should not take Bryant over Gray.

 

[SilenceS]

I have read a couple of scouts as well who rank Gray over Appel. They is also a concensus that Bryant wont be able to stay at third. They dont think its a zero chance of staying at third, but most think he will be an OF before it is done. They also believe he will be a 30 homer low average type of player.

 

[KBisBack!]

Lol at despite only being a number 2 pick, Gray could be as good as Cashner... Way to aim high guys, Cashner isn't all that amazing.

Funny how he was hyped when he was with the team and not that he was traded by the spankfest isn't all that amazing despite an ERA in the mid 2's early in the season.

How convenient.

 

[Boobaby1]

Lol at despite only being a number 2 pick, Gray could be as good as Cashner... Way to aim high guys, Cashner isn't all that amazing.

I said as good as if not better than Cashner. Hardly a wasted pick.

BTW, what did Cashner bring in return to the Cubs? Whoops!

 

[KBisBack!]

I am still waiting for that long list of teams who were able to throw away a couple seasons and quickly turn around into a consistent winner like many on here are positive will be the result with the #TheoSpankfest in charge.

So far we have the Phillies at 14 seasons between playoff trips.

 

[Boobaby1]

I am still waiting for that long list of teams who were able to throw away a couple seasons and quickly turn around into a consistent winner like many on here are positive will be the result with the #TheoSpankfest in charge.

So far we have the Phillies at 14 seasons between playoff trips.

What's the question again? :thinking:

 

[CSF77]

Well looking at the F/A market. If Jackson flops this year I'd consider Jacoby Ellsbury and plug him long term as the lead off. He can still be moved to LF after Almora develops.

Now this still doesn't solve the #5 hitter situation. I believe they will wait for Soler to develop and continue the platoon at #5 in RF.

3B IDK.

Betting they are gearing up more so to retain Garza and give deals to Wood and Shark. (keep the SP core intact)

 

[nwfisch]

We spent on Wesley Wright, Jason Hammel and Jose Veras. :clap:

And Emilio Bonifacio.

 

[Boobaby1]

We spent on Wesley Wright, Jason Hammel and Jose Veras. :clap:

And Emilio Bonifacio.

They went hard after Sanchez and Tanaka and missed on both. Aside from those two, there wasn't a whole lot out there that the Cubs could use moving forward. A lot of potential free agents never hit the open market as that is the trend these days.

Picking up and paying Santana and even Garza wouldn't have helped a team like the Cubs that have no offense.

And speaking of offense, what sense would it make to bring in a player like Cano when you have Baez and Alcantara waiting to arrive, only having to force them to another position?

Do you think that Cano is going to be a huge difference maker in Seattle who is light years ahead of the Cubs as far as pitching?

He will help, but Oakland, the Angels, and the Rangers are still odds on favorites to beat out the Mariners in that division, and Houston will be arriving soon to put their two cents in.

 

[CSF77]

Let's see: bumping a threat to pick an argument. Check.

 

[patg006]

what i expect to see next opening day is a roster with more pieces of the core players added to it..


this draft, trade deadline, and off season has to be productive for the 2014 roster

And this opening opening day the roster has less pieces of the core players.

The draft, trade deadline and offseason were not productive at all for the 2014 roster.

The PR campaign from last season told fans about all the great changes that were coming last season and people bought into it.

None of that actually happened of course.

But don't anyone dare point that out either.