Stanley Cup Final IGT: Game 1 - Blackhawks @ Lightning 6/3 at 7:00 p.m.

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I'd say it was a combination of skill and luck... it's luck because 9/10 times he would have missed the puck.

Who bats a puck out of midair, with their backhand, without looking? Ridiculous goal.
 

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I do not believe luck had anything to do with that goal.

Did he intend to tip the puck into the net? Yes.
Did he execute his intention? Yes.

All skill in my eyes. Don't know how you could think differently.
 

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I do not believe luck had anything to do with that goal.

Did he intend to tip the puck into the net? Yes.
Did he execute his intention? Yes.

All skill in my eyes. Don't know how you could think differently.

I don't know everything about hockey, but I know what I see. That shit was pretty amazing and nobody should take anything away from him because of their bias.
 

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I do not believe luck had anything to do with that goal.

Did he intend to tip the puck into the net? Yes.
Did he execute his intention? Yes.


All skill in my eyes. Don't know how you could think differently.

If that's all it takes, then no goal ever scored should be considered lucky.
 

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I don't know everything about hockey, but I know what I see. That shit was pretty amazing and nobody should take anything away from him because of their bias.

No one is taking anything away from him. It was a great goal, but he had to be a little bit lucky to score it. I don't see what the big deal is.

Hossa scored a goal that was somewhat similar, swatting the puck out of midair... granted that was forehand, and he could see the puck... but even that was a little bit lucky. 9/10 times you'd whiff.
 

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I'd say it was a combination of skill and luck... it's luck because 9/10 times he would have missed the puck.

Who bats a puck out of midair, with their backhand, without looking? Ridiculous goal.

Killorn, like a lot of players, practices his hand/eye coordination by keeping a puck in the air with a hockey stick, like a soccer player does with a soccer ball (go to 50 seconds in the video below). He probably misses it 9 of 10 times, but he was trying to tip/bat this into the net, and it wasn't a no-look as someone earlier posted.

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...anyway, Hawks won! Good on him for his highlight reel goal.
 
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No one is taking anything away from him. It was a great goal, but he had to be a little bit lucky to score it. I don't see what the big deal is.

Hossa scored a goal that was somewhat similar, swatting the puck out of midair... granted that was forehand, and he could see the puck... but even that was a little bit lucky. 9/10 times you'd whiff.

I used to have this argument with a lot of people, i was on the other side thinking pretty much every goal was luck except the big slapshots from way out. Then some people that actually have played the sport told me to STFU.

I agree that there has to be a component of luck but the fact he couldn't see the puck means nothing to me. He was completely aware of where he, his stick and the puck were when he connected. It was ninja shit and ninja shit is for real IRL.
 

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I used to have this argument with a lot of people, i was on the other side thinking pretty much every goal was luck except the big slapshots from way out. Then some people that actually have played the sport told me to STFU.

I agree that there has to be a component of luck but the fact he couldn't see the puck means nothing to me. He was completely aware of where he, his stick and the puck were when he connected. It was ninja shit and ninja shit is for real IRL.

I know! I seen Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
 

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I'd say it was a combination of skill and luck... it's luck because 9/10 times he would have missed the puck.

Who bats a puck out of midair, with their backhand, without looking? Ridiculous goal.

Even if he hit it ten of ten times, it's flipping end over end, so he ain't gonna hit it at the same angle twice.

That's it - we should get the Myth Busters involved.

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If it wasn't no-look, my mistake then. I was under the impression it was a no look hit.
 

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I do not believe luck had anything to do with that goal.

Did he intend to tip the puck into the net? Yes.
Did he execute his intention? Yes.

All skill in my eyes. Don't know how you could think differently.

I think he HOPED to tip the puck into the net and it went in. I would definitely not call this pure skill but it's also not a fluke.
It's simple, he tried to do something and it happened.
Kudos to him for being creative and tenacious and getting the job done but yeah...Unless he does this move again, I'm not calling it a skill move.

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It is very pretty.. I'd brag all day If I ever did something like that
 

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He redirected a puck toward the net and it went in.

It was a difficult redirect.

He executed it. Half the goals in hockey are this way. You try to direct them toward the net the best you can given the multitude of nuances around you. Sometimes they go in, usually they don't.

It took a perfect bounce off the ice. If it lands at any other angle it doesn't bounce high enough to slip between crawfords skate and glove.

It wasn't lucky, but it took a great deal of chance to occur. Typical hockey.
 

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I think he HOPED to tip the puck into the net and it went in. I would definitely not call this pure skill but it's also not a fluke.
It's simple, he tried to do something and it happened.
Kudos to him for being creative and tenacious and getting the job done but yeah...Unless he does this move again, I'm not calling it a skill move.

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He will NEVER do this move again. It would defy physics that everything would occur again just as it did. I'm sure there's plenty of science to confirm what I'm saying too. He may score another goal in a similar manner but never the exact same way this was executed. Too many variables. I'm not saying it's impossible but the likelihood is almost nil.
 

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The "luck" of the play was that there was a super slow fluttering puck easily coming to him.

Deflections happen all the time, harder deflections than that happen constantly with actual hard shots coming at a guy who had to try to angle the stick in motion while swatting a shot out of the air. The fluke part of it was how easy of a deflection he had with no Hawk around him and the puck easily in his wheelhouse
 

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I'd maintain that the vast majority of what you see happen on the ice isn't luck at all. These guys have spent a TON of time on the ice in their lives, so there probably aren't too many things that can happen over the course of a hockey game that they haven't rehearsed before at some point in their lives. I bet Killorn has done, in practice, something virtually identical to what he did in Game 1.
 

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