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You must be one of those people who think that D-Rose might be > Magic, aren't you? Rose isn't even as good as Gary Payton.
You must be one of those people who think that D-Rose might be > Magic, aren't you? Rose isn't even as good as Gary Payton.
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Well rested Magic team playing a Bulls team on the back end of a back to back and played four games in five nights and still almost lost to them. Yeah Howard really showed us why we need him.
Do you ever have anything positive to say about the Bulls players? It seems like you love to prop up the superstars and diminish the guys on the team you supposedly love. Is it that you want a superstar at every position, and if they aren't they suck?
Noah is a Top 5 center. It's not like it's a deep position. Howard is dominating it by default. He'd be a PF in the era of Ewing, Olajuwan, Mourning, Shaq (Prime), Smits, Mutumbo, etc.
Do you just hate role players or do you just love superstars. I mean we already know you don't support the team when they aren't winning, so is it that you're just a front-runner or what?
I'm just trying to understand you.
Also, way to not answer any of my other questions and cherry pick something to attack. I would really love to hear you answer to these questions.
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Noah a top 5 C?
Not even counting Al Horford, Al Jefferson, and Nene:
Howard, Bynum, Marc Gasol, Duncan (who pretty much plays nothing but C at this point), and Bogut are easily better. Hibbert, Brook Lopez, and maybe even Tyson Chandler might have something to say about that, too. Chris Kaman and Spencer Hawes have some upside over Noah as well.
Not even counting Al Horford, Al Jefferson, and Nene:
Howard, Bynum, Marc Gasol, Duncan (who pretty much plays nothing but C at this point), and Bogut are easily better. Hibbert, Brook Lopez, and maybe even Tyson Chandler might have something to say about that, too. Chris Kaman and Spencer Hawes have some upside over Noah as well.
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Gortat is a top 10 Center on the rise as well.
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True. I omitted Gortat. He'd have something to say as well although I'd rather have Noah.
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Those are dumb ass, condescending questions. I am not wasting my time answering questions I have answered in the past.
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Oh I don't know...BECAUSE YOU JUST STARTED A GOT DAMN THREAD ABOUT HIM??? MAYBE???
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I posted an article speaking up a BULLS player and saying that the Bulls shouldn't be so quick to trade for dude. It's an anti-Howard thread.
And my question you responded to was in the context of every single thread or discussion comes down to people trying to play keyboard GM in getting him on this team.
And my question you responded to was in the context of every single thread or discussion comes down to people trying to play keyboard GM in getting him on this team.
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WTF are you saying?Of course DRose is nothing near Magic.But noone right now in the league is nothing near DRose.Same shit with Howard.Would I compare Howard with the great Cs of the past??NO WAY.
With whom?Shaq?Robinson?Hakeem?
There were at least 10 better Cs than Howard in the past.But I don't thing there were 10 better PGs than Rose.And if you find me 10 you can be sure that noone was something near Rose at his 23.You can underrate him as much as you want.He will make you look stupid every time.I have told you this so many times.
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Okay...just like Shaq/Robinson and Hakeem played at one time and were all great...These guys today are playing at a high level.
Rose is not much better than Westbrook. If you think he is, you haven't watched Westbrook. That is why I couldn't comprehend why people called Rose an elite point guard but not Westbrook.
Unlike Howard, Rose is not leading pgs in scoring, assists etc. Howard is fairly dominant in every statistical category with a few exceptions and every facet at his position. The second guy has an extensive history of injuries and is not as consistent. That was the point I was making.
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I have watched Westbrook.Not even close.The only common they have is athleticism.Maybe Westbrook is a bit more athletic.But without KD his team would be an average team
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Take Westbrook off the team you could say the same thing. Harden is improving but OKC has not consistent frontcourt scoring to speak of. It would all be on Durant. If Westbrook sustains and season ending injury right now, OKC are no longer contenders.
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But Rose is in the top 10 of both. Points and assists.
Westbrook makes ONE point more per game, but Rose averages THREE assists more.
Actually Westbrook is just 18th in Assists with 5 per game, what is not much for a starting PG!
It´s not about leading one category but being solid in all of them.
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True.And you should look at turnovers too and at basketball IQ and clutch performance.
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Well Westbrook makes a lot of highlight plays so that makes him just as good as Rose.
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WHAT is not about leading one category but being solid in all of them? If that is the case, Paul, Williams, Rondo can all say the same thing...that is my point! Rose isn't the best, scorer/passer/defender at his position....
Nothing about what you just said would suggest that Rose is sooooo much better than any other pg in the league. That was my point. And that was the point of the argument. Howard is much better than any other center in the league when counting statistical output, natural ability, consistency, etc. It's not close. People still rave when Bynum goes for 26/10. Howard does that damn near every night.
The discrepancy between Howard and Bynum is not at all similar to Rose and other pgs. He is not dominating the position like that.
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You are making my point for me...lol. Rose isn't the smartest, Rose isn't the best pg in the clutch. That was my point. Howard dominates in damn near every aspect across the board...
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lolwut??
Is this a joke?
Rose is maybe the best player in the clutch in the world right now.
The only PG that can be compared to Rose right now is Westbrook and he is by far less smart less clutch and less team player than Rose.
If you mean that you could live without him if you had Westbrook in your team then you could also say that you can leave without Howard if you have KLove in your team.
And no if you have a player like Howard in your team and you lose by 20 by the bobcats then I guess he is not as dominant as he should be.He is just the best center in the league right now.Not something so special but the second best C in the league is pretty far..
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Steve Nash is the most clutch PG out of the elite PG's and easily. He's just not on a relevant team.
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Yes I forgot it.All PGs in the league are more clutch than Rose.How could I forget this?
People allover the world have started making memes for DRose's clutchness and in a Bulls forum there are guys who can drop the most unbelievable name in the table just not to admit that DRose is the best instead of thanking god for having this guy in their team.
People allover the world have started making memes for DRose's clutchness and in a Bulls forum there are guys who can drop the most unbelievable name in the table just not to admit that DRose is the best instead of thanking god for having this guy in their team.
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