Sutton and ferguson..were they wasted picks?

[1rkrage]

well personally i thought ferguson was a huge reach. i didn't really understand the choice there. i think he can have a role but i question more if he's even an NFL caliber player rather then where he fits.

sutton i actually liked a lot coming out of college but i see him as strictly a 3 technique. whatever else fangio does or doesn't do, one constant is his desire for versatility. can his 3 technique slide to the 5 or 1 or 0 if the offense gives a different look? with sutton, the answer is no. he's an interior gap splitter and that's it. it would not surprise me to see him traded for a late round/conditional pick in camp.

it's always hard to gauge draft classes in situations where they have an entirely new class in their 2nd season. the bears philosophy is very different then it was last year and only time will tell if any of these guys fit. the protection of being a "high" draft pick means nothing with a new staff. i think there's a decent chance neither ferguson or sutton are on the bears come opening day. i mean, honestly, i could see a situation where the only player from last years draft left is fuller.

Ferguson looked the part of an NFL caliber player last year. Even had the two back to back batted down passes in that one game. The question the op is posing here is whether he fits the 3-4 system.

 

[Jester]

Yeah...it felt wrong just typing it out. I never wanted Allen, but even I did not think he would have that bad a season. The point stands that we will find a way to use these guys.

(Allen can not be a twelve million dollar seatwarmer)

It makes me sick even thinking about what we are paying him. He looked absolutely terrible last year. I didn't realize how small the guy really is lol.

 

[bearmick]

As bad as Allen was last year, he never really recovered from that illness and losing all the weight. I don't expect him to be great this year but at least in better shape than last year.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

As bad as Allen was last year, he never really recovered from that illness and losing all the weight. I don't expect him to be great this year but at least in better shape than last year.

Pretty sure he sucked before that illness too.

 

[ZenBear34]

Pretty sure he sucked before that illness too.

the allen thing pisses me off so much. i really did not want him last year. i would have been more accepting of it had emery not thrown such a ridiculous amount of money at him. i mean $30 mil+? just a terrible, terrible move by emery. allen is amongst my all time least favorite players and being stuck with him is like a lingering "**** you" from emery and his failed regime.

 

[Svic]

Ego can be and will be a DE and a NT. He has a lot of talent and value. He might be our future 34 DE starter once McDonald and Ratliff are gone

 

[didshereallysaythat]

Pretty sure he sucked before that illness too.

Uhh, that happened before week 3.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

if either get cut of course wasted picks. But two things isnt this why we got rid of the last gm? And two if they stick on the roster they have a whole season to show their worth and only then can we see if they fit a 3-4. Based on what we know about them I think Ego can stick......Sutton wont make the transition

 

[WindyCity]

Sutton needs to carve out a niche in the sub packages rushing the passer.

But I wouldn't rule out anything.

Fangio has gotten a ton out of smaller lineman, I simply cannot write off Sutton when Ian Williams started games and played well in SF.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Uhh, that happened before week 3.

Looks like it was week 4 he was out and if I'm remembering correctly he was terrible in preseason and the first three ames. maybe I'm wrong but I don't remember there being some big flu related drop off. I thought sucked from the minute he put on a bears jersey to the end.

 

[dafridge72]

Didn't he have an ankle injury towards end of preseason and he was limited first 3 weeks, then he played a few weeks and it came up that he had pneumonia where he dropped 20lbs? I know his sack count was way down there year, but with missing a few games and limited snaps early on, he was able to register almost 70 tackles....but i agree it had small flashes but for the most part was ineffective.

 

[dreadpirateroberts]

I talked to Kyle and he said Fangio was lining Ferguson up at the four/five technique and looks slimmer.

 

[ClydeLee]

Yes..... or Ego still fits as one of the main starting space eaters, he's just not a NT but he's set up for some good fit there.

Sutton is still a rotational pass rusher, like he was and should be and is still going to be used at a pace still worthy of the pick if he plays up to that.

 

[Kekua Zombie]

now that we are moving to a 3-4 are these two wasted picks? Sutton isnt playing NT and i really dont see him playing left or right end. As for ego i think he could play NT but no way is he playing over ratliffe or goldman. I want tonsay i thought both played well for rookies in our 4-3 but now... Do they even see the field outside of a few plays?

Ratliff is no spring chicken, Im sure this will be his last season with the Bears. Maybe two, then Ego will be Goldmons back up.

 

[KittiesKorner]

I thought according Goddell's agents on the board, Ratliff is going to be extraordinarily rendered for pleading guily to a DUI in 2013, anyway

 

[ZenBear34]

Sutton needs to carve out a niche in the sub packages rushing the passer.

But I wouldn't rule out anything.

Fangio has gotten a ton out of smaller lineman, I simply cannot write off Sutton when Ian Williams started games and played well in SF.

sutton's got to be considered a complete wild card. i'm interested to see what happens with him. i liked him a lot coming out of college and thought he was a solid pick in the 3rd. i could see him being an important rotational lineman or not making the team.

 

[RisWell]

Both players dont fit the scheme its that simple. When a 2nd and 3rd round pick dont fit the scheme and dont look like future starters its a waste.

 

[Chris Sojka]

Fergusson might be goldmans backup and see reps at the 5...

Sutton could see done 4-3 looks as the 3 tech...

Am I mistaken or did they not say the would show lots of fronts? Or was that the previous year.?


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[RiDLer80]

Definitely not wasted picks. Both will have opportunities to make an impact this season.

Ego can play 5-tech and even nose for us.

Sutton should be able to line up inside in our even fronts and obvious passing situations. Good coaches will figure out how to use these two.

 

[greg23]

12 months after a player was drafted in the 2nd and 3rd round and we have no idea how or where they fit on the defense; it sure looks theres a high chance to be wasted picks.