Teravainen could be joining the Hawks.

[the canadian dream]

http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2014-03-11/teuvo-teravainen-blackhawks-news-patrick-kane-jonathan-toews?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter</p>


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Hope so. But I don't trust the sources on this one. If he does join the Hawks then stan could easier trade him to the Panthers. A win win for everyone.</p>

 

[Variable]

Boy I sure don't,  not if it invalidates the slide year the Hawks have on his contract. Think there's only a certain number of games he can play with the Hawks/Hogs before it does. </p>

 

[phranchk]

10 games. I'm sure that if he's helping the team they'll let him play more. If he's not I bet he'll be held at 9 games.</p>

 

[puckjim]

Quenneville was on WSCR today and said that he'd be joining the team this season: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/03/11/quenneville-teravainen-will-come-back-here-later-this-season/?utm_medium=VPH&utm_source=topvph_sports&utm_campaign=535631</p>

 

[Variable]

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10 games. I'm sure that if he's helping the team they'll let him play more. If he's not I bet he'll be held at 9 games.</p>
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Would they really need him to? That second line, even with Handzus still on it, looked a lot better with Sharp on it. Who woulda thought breaking up that super 1st line and giving Kane some help could do that. And Shaw and Saad looked great on the 1st line. Would it be too much to ask of Q to keep Saad on the 1st line and Sharp on the 2nd when Hossa gets back? </p>

 

[the canadian dream]

This kid is the real deal Variable. Who cares about the contract shit let the org worry about that. This kid has so much similarities with Toews its disgusting all he needs now is the minutes and the ice at the NHL level.  When you have talent like this kid you have to utilize him as soon as you can. Pointless to get this kid playing with the Hogs and pointless to have him not playing hockey once his duties with the Finnish league is done this year. He's in game shape, he has incredible upsides and he is instantly improves the center depth on this team. And who says he will be playing 2nd line center anyways? This is Q we are talking about. He might end up playing wing for all we fucking know lol.</p>

 

[phranchk]

He very well could end up back in wing. He was moved to center before this season so it's not like he's played his whole career there. Also, I would say the similarities are way closer to Kane than to Toews. He's an assist machine.</p>

 

[Variable]

Well....yeah of course it's something to "let" the organization  worry about. Just like with anything else discussed about the team here. It's just something I hope they take into consideration, that's all. I never said he should spend time in the AHL instead of the NHL, because those games would count the same.  And I would say he's much more similar to Kane than Toews.</p>

 

[the canadian dream]

I'm still saying he has Toews similarities but yes I see the Kane ones also. Don't think he has the hand speed Kaner has though and he does have the two way sensibility that Toews has. Doesn't matter I would take a guy with similarities to either Kane or Toews in a heartbeat. I'm incredibly high on him as I think most of us are. Im sure if he does play hes not going to come in breaking records and the adjustment period will cause mistakes on the ice. I think his adjustment period can be quicker though than most others right now. And with Hossa out it doesn't hurt to get him in the lineup. I personally don't care about division or conference titles right now. Playoffs are pretty much clinched lets use this time btw now and the first round to build up for the playoffs (certainly dont rush Hossa back). Get Teravainen in and get him as used to the system as he can get. Hes a nice piece to have available. </p>


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Im sure the org is taking all the contract and money stuff into consideration Variable. They do have professional accountants working in the system and people who know what the actual numbers are now and who have a better projection of what the numbers will be in the future. Again I don't bother looking at cap numbers anymore. Unless its obvious unfittable numbers.</p>

 

[Variable]

It's really not that complicated. You risk losing an entire year of his contract. Would you rather have him at 3  full years with a cap hit of below a million or 2 years?  But besides that, I'd prefer they take their time with him anyway, not toss him directly into the fire his first time on NHL ice under the pressure of the playoffs. Just isn't worth it. Give him a taste of it, give him his 8 or 9 games or whatever and then just go full bore in the offseason and training camps and pre-season,etc.</p>


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They didn't move Morin and If they're planning on keeping him I'd say now is the time to get him into these games with Hossa out. I don't think Teravainen's season with Jokerit ends for at least another week anyway, and that's if they don't advance into the playoffs.</p>

 

[phranchk]

They don't have the cap space for Morin without sending someone else down. Not sure what happens when Teravainen shows up. Maybe they have to make a move when he gets here.</p>

 

[CLWolf81]

There's always sending Brookbank down for salary cap considerations... 


Honestly, is it too early to bring him up? Wouldn't he be better off working out and getting better conditioning first before he makes the jump? 


I know TT would EASILY solve the 2C problem for a cheap rate, but I don't know if its too early to do it... and at playoff time no less? This kind of move is something I'd be stupid enough to want to do. Why the hell do the Hawks want to listen to me? They never do... lol</p>

 

[the canadian dream]

Too much concern about "rushing young players". That's an overused cliche sometimes in sport.  There are guys who can come right into the league and onto teams and make impacts right away. Guys who need to come into the league and not sit around playing in lesser leagues and around lesser talent. They won't be rushing Teravainen at all, he is that good and that capable. He is ready. He probably would have been with this team from the start of the season if not for his obligations in Finland. He nearly made Finlands Olympic team for crying out loud. Kid plays with men and hes ready to play with the best men (much like Stu).</p>


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Morin isn't as well rounded as Teravainen. Also another mistake is letting team bias over evaluate a player. Morin isn't as good as some Hawk fans believe he is. He is good but he isn't that special... Teravainen is. Morins come around all the time. Teravainens don't. Sorry if that hurts Morins feelings but its true.</p>


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I as a fan could care less about losing a year of Teravainens contract if he plays out the season with the Hawks. I want to win now and get that dynasty label!!! I have no real concerns for the future of this club as that all seems pretty good right now too seeing the age of these players. Not as if the Hawks are going to have to go through a rebuild in 3 years time because they lose a year of Teravainens contract. Lets be reasonable. </p>

 

[Variable]

I am being reasonable. You want a kid who has never played on the NHL ice to get his first real taste of the North American game.....during the playoffs? At this stage of his yet to be NHL career, whether the Hawks have Terarvainen or not won't decide their fate in the upcoming playoffs.  That is reason enough for me to not sacrifice a year of his contract.</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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I am being reasonable. You want a kid who has never played on the NHL ice to get his first real taste of the North American game.....during the playoffs? At this stage of his yet to be NHL career, whether the Hawks have Terarvainen or not won't decide their fate in the upcoming playoffs.  That is reason enough for me to not sacrifice a year of his contract.</p>
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Didn't Saad play his first game in the playoffs?</p>


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Good thing the Avs didn't rush MacKinnon or the Pens rush Maatta.</p>


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More importantly thank God the Preds didn't rush Jones.</p>

 

[Variable]

Different circumstances. In every single one  of those examples you listed.</p>

 

[the canadian dream]

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I am being reasonable. You want a kid who has never played on the NHL ice to get his first real taste of the North American game.....during the playoffs? At this stage of his yet to be NHL career, whether the Hawks have Terarvainen or not won't decide their fate in the upcoming playoffs.  That is reason enough for me to not sacrifice a year of his contract.</p>
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Wouldn't be the first time it happened. Happens all the time. Did you see Torey Krug come into the playoffs for the Bruins last year and shit the bed and be nervous and scared? Nope. he came in and made an impact right away and helped that team make it to the finals. And this is a blueliner which is a lot harder to do. </p>


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you are talking in old fashion cliches Variable. Kids play their first real NHL games in the playoffs all the time now.</p>

 

[Variable]

Again, different set of circumstances.</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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Different circumstances. In every single one  of those examples you listed.</p>
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How?</p>


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They were all 1st round picks except Saad.</p>

 

[Variable]

Just on the team situations alone it's different. MacKinnon was the number one pick, he made the team out of camp. He's been playing the entire season. He's not coming in at the tail end of a season, going into the playoffs. Same thing with Maatta. Made the team out of camp, been playing the entire season, getting accustomed to the game, his teammates. Same thing with Jones. I mean, really? Saad played one game in the playoffs. That's in no way comparable. Or with Teravainen. </p>


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The Hawks won't be leaning on Teravainen when/if he plays here, he's not going to make or break their chances in the playoffs. They have the luxury of being able to say that, of being able to "wait", most teams don't.</p>