TGDT: 10/20 Canucks @ Blackhawks 8:00PM CSN/TSN

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[quote name="Pez68"]Turco looks just like Hasek in the net. It's fucking entertaining as hell to watch. With the way he has played this year, I'll take it.



I thought Toews had a really MEH game. Definitely not one of his better performances. He was his usual strong self in the circles, but offensively I thought he had a pretty bad game.



Decent game all around. Still giving up way too many shots.[/quote]



Seriously? I thought he was all over the ice and controlled the puck with authority. Might have been one of his best games this year IMO.
 

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It was nice to see a fairly solid effort tonight, well at least more solid than the last two games. It may have gotten a little sloppy at times, but it's still early in the season and there are a ton of new guys. Overall I'd say they're starting to click very well, and once Toews and Bolland pick up their points the team will be rolling along just fine.



PS - Cullimore was definitely out there for the goal against, not sure who above said he wasn't... I'm too lazy to look back.
 

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[quote name="Ton"]



Seriously? I thought he was all over the ice and controlled the puck with authority. Might have been one of his best games this year IMO.[/quote]



100% agree. Best game Toews has had so far this year. As per his norm he's slowly getting better as the Season goes along. Another four games he should really start to break out. Could have easily had 2-3 goals tonight.



And Mary is definitely correct it was Cullimore and Seabrook. I thought that puck could have easily been whistled too. Not until they jammed at Turco's pad/skate did it come lose.



I left officiating out because it's just pointless. They have sucked every game this year. Rookie AHL ref tonight and it showed. Skille tripped right past the net no call. Sharp just mugged with the puck in the O Zone no call. Kopecker high sticked by Bieksa, blood, no call. And not sure what happened to JT's face but he left for repairs for a short period in the 3rd.



And on the Keith high stick? Really? Not sure about you guys but was it phantom?
 

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JT got the puck in his face, it jumped from his glove to his face, nothing illegal there. There could have definetely been more penalties blown for the Nucks and there were a couple ticky-tacky calls to the Hawks, but the reffing is bad all around and both teams need to play despite that.

A good effort by the team as a whole. The 4th line was great and Cullimore, Scott and Boynton looked OK, the latter moreso as he did get ample ice-time. Bolland kept doing those drop passes which no one picked up instead of driving the net himself. Kane had some good shifts, but he was rather pedestrian the rest of the time. Hoss is still the Boss, even if he didn't score tonight. I think Seabs has improved his games a lot since the start, where he was really struggling. Keith is also getting the job done and looks much better too. Turco was awesome and is a big part why the Hawks are on a streak.



Also LOLoungo who couldn't keep the puck out of the net in the SO despite "saving" them initially. Taser is still money on the shoot-out, simple quick low shot through the 5-hole and it works every time.
 

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Was it E Runs with the "your brother is ugly" sign? He makes an appearance on the TSN website game highlight.
 

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Even though they had their hiccups with tape to tape passing, I think that was the best all around effort the boys have put in so far. As far as net play, all Ihave to say is Marty Mudda-Fugging Turco!!! jesus he stood on his head and then some...no one can even ***** about that greasy goal the nucks got. Jesus, how long did he lay out in the stretch trying to block out that bottom corner?????

I'm sorry folks, but Boynton and Culli both just keep improving with each game. And Scott did what he was brought to the team for last night, fill in as needed whether as a forward or d-man, and be the "man" if someone had to duke it out.

If I am going to ***** about anyone's performance from last night, although he still had a good game for a "normal" NHLer, Kaner looked below par for himself, like he was still suffering some lingering affects of his cold.
 

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[quote name="roshinaya"]Was it E Runs with the "your brother is ugly" sign? He makes an appearance on the TSN website game highlight.[/quote]



If so, he stole it from Avery. BASTARD!
 

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If so, he stole it from Avery. BASTARD![/quote]



thought burish said that last season. i remember it being one of the funniest chirps last year.
 

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[quote name="Stu Grimson"]



If so, he stole it from Avery. BASTARD![/quote]





Actually, it was Burish who said that.



Troy Murray, the Hawks' insightful WGN radio analyst, shared with his listeners Wednesday night what Burish told one of the Sedins Monday in Game 2. Murray said Burish jockeyed one of the twins (forget which one, doesn't matter) by saying to him from the bench with his best sneer: "Your brother is ugly."

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/blackha ... z12ztNwqxb
 

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Ahhhh that's right... Avery said something else about Obrien and Bieksa being *** that set off a brawl where Avery stole one of their sticks from the bench.
 

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boring game BUT exciting game at the same if it makes any sense. IMO Loungo earned the extra point. Again zebra's missing call after call..oh well. I thought Boynton Played a great game. love the 4th line as RK mentioned they are better then our last years line and still getting better, they can easily be a 3rd line on any other team. Toews had a great game just to many unfortunate bounces. I felt like we couldn't buy a goal but will have games like this...like mentioned before all this hype of us losing so many players in the off season and we were going to have a hard time winning. Well it seems like the teams they picked are having the harder times. YES, champions find ways to win. I love how this team is forming together. I predicted early this preseason that we would have a faster team..And I'm starting to see it. GO HAWKS!
 

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thought burish said that last season. i remember it being one of the funniest chirps last year.[/quote]



Yea that and telling Carcillo it was the best hit of the year when he knocked Carter down instead of Kopecky!



Eruns had the broken golf club sign, Jack had the Pull Hair, Attack fans, Choke in the playoffs.



Most of them read that one on their way by.
 

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100% agree. Best game Toews has had so far this year. As per his norm he's slowly getting better as the Season goes along. Another four games he should really start to break out. Could have easily had 2-3 goals tonight.



And Mary is definitely correct it was Cullimore and Seabrook. I thought that puck could have easily been whistled too. Not until they jammed at Turco's pad/skate did it come lose.



I left officiating out because it's just pointless. They have sucked every game this year. Rookie AHL ref tonight and it showed. Skille tripped right past the net no call. Sharp just mugged with the puck in the O Zone no call. Kopecker high sticked by Bieksa, blood, no call. And not sure what happened to JT's face but he left for repairs for a short period in the 3rd.



And on the Keith high stick? Really? Not sure about you guys but was it phantom?[/quote]

Puck was never frozen, RK. It was sitting in front of his pad and next to the net the whole time. No way should the whistle have blown. It was unfortunately the correct call.



I don't know if this was mentioned, but why was that a penalty on Turco? I thought if you get the puck first it's not tripping?
 

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[quote name="Pez68"]Turco looks just like Hasek in the net. It's fucking entertaining as hell to watch. With the way he has played this year, I'll take it.



I thought Toews had a really MEH game. Definitely not one of his better performances. He was his usual strong self in the circles, but offensively I thought he had a pretty bad game.



Decent game all around. Still giving up way too many shots.[/quote]

In my opinion, Turco is too small to play any other way. If he tried to be a straight butterfly goalie, he'd give up so much room up top that it would be like shooting fish in a barrel for these guys. He has to flop around and use his quickness to cover the amount of net he needs to cover. Its as simple as that. I will say that he looked awful small in the net on the shootout however. He was beaten badly on all three shooters, even Samuelsson despite the fact he didn't connect. We might miss Niemi in that area. Niemi was great in shootouts.



Overall, I thought the shots were a bit misleading. I thought that was our best defensive effort of the year all the way around. Lots of blocked shots and guys sacrificing out there. I thought Boynton had his best game of the year, ditto for Seabs and Keith.
 

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[quote name="phranchk"]...I don't know if this was mentioned, but why was that a penalty on Turco? I thought if you get the puck first it's not tripping?[/quote]

That's what we were screaming at the teevee about, too. If you hit the puck first, it's DEFINITELY NOT tripping. We've seen that time and again with a stick. The only difference here was that it was Turco's leg that did the tripping. Only thing I can figure is the ref thought he stuck the leg out on purpose...
 

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[quote name="phranchk"]

Puck was never frozen, RK. It was sitting in front of his pad and next to the net the whole time. No way should the whistle have blown. It was unfortunately the correct call.



I don't know if this was mentioned, but why was that a penalty on Turco? I thought if you get the puck first it's not tripping?[/quote]



As a referee, I can say the rule book doesn't definitively state that. At least the USA Hockey rulebook doesn't. Its a judgment call by the referee in most cases that if you play the puck first and trip a guy as a result, its not called. But by the letter of the law, it's still a trip. From the rulebook....



Rule 639 Tripping

(a) A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on any player

who shall place his stick, foot, arm, hand or elbow, or

extends the leg (Leg Checking) from the front or from behind,

in such a manner that it shall cause his opponent to trip or

fall.



(Note 1) If, in the opinion of the Referee, a player is

unquestionably hook-checking or poke checking the puck

and obtains possession of it, thereby tripping the puck

carrier, no penalty shall be imposed.Note: Turco didn't obtain possession of the puck under this interpretation



(Note 2) Accidental trips that occur simultaneously with or

after a stoppage of play will not be penalized.

Any player who deliberately leaves his feet and contacts

an opponent with any part of his body thereby causing the

opponent to trip or fall shall be assessed a minor penalty

(Clipping).



(Note 3) This rule does not apply to a player who has

dropped to his knee(s) to block a shot.



(b) A major penalty plus a game misconduct penalty shall be

assessed to any player who injures an opponent as a result of

a foul committed by tripping or leg checking.



(c) When a player in control of the puck beyond the defending

blue line, and having no other opponent to pass than the

goalkeeper, is tripped or otherwise fouled from behind or

diagonally from behind (beyond the fouled player’s peripheral

vision), thus preventing a reasonable scoring opportunity, a

penalty shot/optional minor shall be awarded to the non-

offending team. Nevertheless, the Referee shall not stop the

play until the attacking team has lost possession and control

of the puck to the defending team.



(Note) The intention of this rule is to restore a reasonable

scoring opportunity that has been lost by reason of a foul

from behind when the foul is committed in the Neutral or

Attacking Zones.



“Possession and control of the puck” (See Glossary) means

the act of propelling the puck with a stick. If, while it is

being propelled, the puck is touched by another player or his

equipment or hits the goal or goes free, the player shall no

longer be considered to be “in possession and control of the

puck.”This is where the Turco interpretation gets hazy. He could have been considered as "having possession" under this definition.



(d) If, when the opposing goalkeeper has been removed from the

ice, a player in control of the puck beyond the defending blue

line is tripped or otherwise fouled with no opposition

between him and the opposing goal, thus preventing an

obvious and imminent scoring opportunity, the Referee shall

immediately stop the play and award a goal to the attacking

team.
 

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[quote name="phranchk"]

Puck was never frozen, RK. It was sitting in front of his pad and next to the net the whole time. No way should the whistle have blown. It was unfortunately the correct call.



I don't know if this was mentioned, but why was that a penalty on Turco? I thought if you get the puck first it's not tripping?[/quote]





thats what I thought, almost threw my beer at the T.V. but realized it was still full so I did not.
 

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[quote name="Ton"]



Seriously? I thought he was all over the ice and controlled the puck with authority. Might have been one of his best games this year IMO.[/quote]





Me too. Toews was creating a decent amount of chances in a closely contested game.



The 'Nucks played a good game, making it a more defensive game for both teams. Toews was shining IMO.
 

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[quote name="whalerhawk"]

In my opinion, Turco is too small to play any other way. If he tried to be a straight butterfly goalie, he'd give up so much room up top that it would be like shooting fish in a barrel for these guys. He has to flop around and use his quickness to cover the amount of net he needs to cover. Its as simple as that. I will say that he looked awful small in the net on the shootout however. He was beaten badly on all three shooters, even Samuelsson despite the fact he didn't connect. We might miss Niemi in that area. Niemi was great in shootouts.



Overall, I thought the shots were a bit misleading. I thought that was our best defensive effort of the year all the way around. Lots of blocked shots and guys sacrificing out there. I thought Boynton had his best game of the year, ditto for Seabs and Keith.[/quote]



Totally agree about the shots being misleading. The 'Nucks did not have many quality chances and were credited with 5 or 6 shots on their goal sequence. Also skews things a bit that the 'Nucks were really preventing the 'Hawks from having much penetration for a stretch where the 'Hawks had 4 shots in almost 30 minutes of play (I think the 'Nucks had 15 (and the goal)).
 
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