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I am wondering if Toews is injured, because he hasn't really stood out the last couple of games.
 

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Well he does have an injured finger, that's why he hasnt been taking face offs.
 

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Letting in quite a few goals too, but if you're scoring 5+ per night, that doesn't matter.</p>


Better hope that the O doesn't get anemic. 


The Kings game this weekend will be a decent challenge with how hot Jones has been in net. </p>
 

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Letting in quite a few goals too, but if you're scoring 5+ per night, that doesn't matter.</p>


Better hope that the O doesn't get anemic. 


The Kings game this weekend will be a decent challenge with how hot Jones has been in net. </p>
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Actually 3.7941176 per night, but who is keeping track?</p>
 

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Actually 3.7941176 per night, but who is keeping track?</p>
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On pace for over 300 goals and a +100 GF/GA ratio.</p>
 

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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Pez68" data-cid="216644" data-time="1386818506">


No team in the NHL is beating a healthy Hawks' team in a seven game series. Don't give a fuck how bad the PK is.</p></blockquote>


If the PK plays like they do now, you're pretty much guaranteed 1 or 2 goals against.


Playoffs being a lot more defensive hockey, those 1 or 2 goals can make a huge difference.
 

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I've noticed the Hawks are playing essentially a triangle +1. So one guy is running around amongst the points, while the other sits in the slot. Puck switches sides, the two PK forwards try and shift, but not always. In theory it could work if you are trying to take away cross ice passes or teams that play a 1-3-1, but now you've essentially rendered your slot forward useless and the opponents point guys are allowed to find shooting lanes much easier.


Go back to the box, and if you want to drop that high guy down a bit, fine. But to completely take him out of the play without any pressure is a recipe for disaster.
 

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If the PK plays like they do now, you're pretty much guaranteed 1 or 2 goals against.


Playoffs being a lot more defensive hockey, those 1 or 2 goals can make a huge difference.</p>
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Yep.  It's nice that it's only December, but April will come pretty fast.</p>


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I don't ever remembering their PK being so horrible.  </p>


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Better stay out of the box.</p>
 

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6-2</p>


6-2</p>


7-2</p>


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Anyone think Mass' formula is a bit off?  At least he's half right every game.</p>
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Actually, I think it's working brilliantly.</p>
 

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you don't score 6 a game in the playoffs unless you play Pittsburgh. </p>
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or Philadelphia (circa 2010). :eek:rcs-buttshake:</p>
 

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I guess in 4 years, the Flyers STILL haven't learned that the Hawks WILL NOT be intimidated by their hack play.</p>
 

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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="puckjim" data-cid="216690" data-time="1386873867">

Better stay out of the box.</p></blockquote>
It's good the Hawks don't take many penalties (5th in league), although I've thought they have taken more than usual lately. Cut that stuff to the minimum and it would minimize the damage a shit PK does.
 

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It's good the Hawks don't take many penalties (5th in league), although I've thought they have taken more than usual lately. Cut that stuff to the minimum and it would minimize the damage a shit PK does.</p>
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Their home PK is an embarrassing 68.8%.</p>


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I need to stopping looking at that shit.</p>
 

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Their home PK is an embarrassing 68.8%.</p>


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I need to stopping looking at that shit.</p>
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DO what I do with some of the embarassing fans, just stop reading them.</p>
 

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DO what I do with some of the embarassing fans, just stop reading them.</p>
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The ostrich approach...Brilliant! </p>
 

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Not really.  Someone broke the PK down into 5 game segments.  Because the Hawks don't take a lot of penalties, ie 5th in the league, it's hard to bring a % up when the first five games resulted in 47% or 7 out of 16.  The first game was 20% IE the Caps scored 3-4 on the PP. </p>


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FYI there were three stretches of 5 games where the Hawks were in the upper 80%.  Once you start out like that it's hard to dig out or ever get the % to move up significantly.</p>


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So instead of the Ostrich approach I like the educated one.</p>


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Then again I would never suggest a player that double and triple shifts, due to his massive offensive upside, EVER kill penalties.</p>


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Just sayin...</p>
 

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Times short handed 100 (10th best)

PPG against 26 (4th worst)

PK 29th</p>


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You could also break down the numbers by month (with this month only containing half the games in Dec)</p>


PK in

October 72.5% 29/40</p>


November 76.9%  30/39

December 71.4% 15/21</p>


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Totals: 74% 74/100</p>
 

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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Trev" data-cid="216685" data-time="1386870242">
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I've noticed the Hawks are playing essentially a triangle +1. So one guy is running around amongst the points, while the other sits in the slot. Puck switches sides, the two PK forwards try and shift, but not always. In theory it could work if you are trying to take away cross ice passes or teams that play a 1-3-1, but now you've essentially rendered your slot forward useless and the opponents point guys are allowed to find shooting lanes much easier.


Go back to the box, and if you want to drop that high guy down a bit, fine. But to completely take him out of the play without any pressure is a recipe for disaster.</p>
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The PK looks exactly how it did two seasons ago. Go back and read the threads and you'll see that triangle +1 being ripped to shreds by the board....</p>


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Not only is it easier to find shooting lanes, there is WAY too much room for the points to walk in.... I just don't get it.</p>
 

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