TGDT 12/11 - Flyers (13-14-3) @ Blackhawks (22-6-5) 7:00PM NBCS

[BlackHawkPaul]

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23-6-5 with the league's 2nd worst PK.</p>


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Times are tough for the Hawks' fan base.</p>
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Especially for you.

You get those garbage cans to the street?</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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Especially for you.

You get those garbage cans to the street?</p>
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Yea but I haven't rolled them back to the garage yet.  TOO MUCH WINTER!!!!</p>


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Maybe I'll throw some Bolton on the headphones and tough it out tonight.</p>

 

[PatrickSharpRules]

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21st in GA (93 goals against).</p>


Not too many 2-1 or 1-0 losses this season.  Most are of the 4-3 variety. 


Since the circus trip, they are 3-2-1, allowing around 2.83 goals/game (the OT is throwing my calculation of GAA off just a tad) while scoring 4.5 goals (tremendous goal support).  The whole season has seen an average (34 games) of 2.74 goals against, so the last six games statistically (in goals against) is a tad worse if we compare the post-circus trip in relation to the rest of the season.


If you go by the last 6 games (post circus trip), it would make the team D very close to the 11-12 team, which had 238 GA.  The six game sample size would put them at just over 232 for an 82 game season.  That isn't good, it's average.

The 10-11 team gave up 225 goals against, and the cup team ('10) had 209 GA (2.54 GAA).


The 2.125 GAA of 2013 was plain amazing, and if it was an 82 game schedule, they would have allowed only 174 GA.

I know they're just numbers, but I find it interesting breaking them all down.

Best current record in the NHL, but 4 more games played than the Blues and Avs. 


The stat that is most telling is the overall goal differential.  The Hawks are currently at +36, which puts them on pace to be +89 for the season (the Blues have the same +36 with 4 fewer games played).  That stat is better than the 2010 cup team (+62), and very close to last years team if you project the 82-game season (+90 projected, the team was a +53 through 48 games).

ccasion-xmas:</p>
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Can we also talk about these two teams?</p>


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In my view, the Avs have no defense, while St. Louis is really hurting for offense. Steen is having a monster year but lets be real, the guy career best in goals is 24 and his best points year is 51. He will shatter those this year, but even then you need more than one line to be a serious contender. </p>


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There defense is great, there is no denying that, but when you break down the centerman and forwards they simply need more production. They have also been healthy, what does this team become is Steen or Backes go down? </p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

http://www.indianheadnation.com/topic/5693-the-pk-or-lack-thereof/</p>

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

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Yea but I haven't rolled them back to the garage yet.  TOO MUCH WINTER!!!!</p>


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Maybe I'll throw some "Johnny Mathis Christmas greatest hits" on the headphones and tough it out tonight.</p>
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[R K]

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Especially for you.

You get those garbage cans to the street?</p>
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Considering he LIVES in one of them!!</p>

 

[Variable]

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Can we also talk about these two teams?</p>


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In my view, the Avs have no defense, while St. Louis is really hurting for offense. Steen is having a monster year but lets be real, the guy career best in goals is 24 and his best points year is 51. He will shatter those this year, but even then you need more than one line to be a serious contender. </p>


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There defense is great, there is no denying that, but when you break down the centerman and forwards they simply need more production. They have also been healthy, what does this team become is Steen or Backes go down? </p>
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The Avs have been re-entering Earth's atmosphere for a little while. Started 12-1, have been 9-8 since I believe. St. Louis I think can be seen as a legitimate threat.  I mean, you could ask the same thing with the Hawks, what happens if Kane gets hurt? Or Toews?</p>

 

[PatrickSharpRules]

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The Avs have been re-entering Earth's atmosphere for a little while. Started 12-1, have been 9-8 since I believe. St. Louis I think can be seen as a legitimate threat.  I mean, you could ask the same thing with the Hawks, what happens if Kane gets hurt? Or Toews?</p>
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Well then we have Sharp, Hossa, Saad...and I threw that in because Steen has never played a full season and is having a steroid type season compared to his career totals. </p>


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The Blues are scoring right now, but they have little depth, and yes if one of those guys go down their forwards are anemic. Again I wasn't serious about the if they get hurt, just threw it in there as they have little depth and injuries are a very real thing. But don't worry I am prepared to reply to another post highlighting only one little point that misses the entire body of what was said.</p>


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To break it down, my opinion stands:</p>


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St. Louis does not have enough offense</p>


Colorado has zero defense</p>

 

[Tater]

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Haha thats such a joke "maximum".</p>
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Pocket change for him.</p>

 

[Variable]

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Well then we have Sharp, Hossa, Saad...and I threw that in because Steen has never played a full season and is having a steroid type season compared to his career totals. </p>


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The Blues are scoring right now, but they have little depth, and yes if one of those guys go down their forwards are anemic. Again I wasn't serious about the if they get hurt, just threw it in there as they have little depth and injuries are a very real thing. But don't worry I am prepared to reply to another post highlighting only one little point that misses the entire body of what was said.</p>


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To break it down, my opinion stands:</p>


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St. Louis does not have enough offense</p>


Colorado has zero defense</p>
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Calm down, calm down lol.  I'm not even really disagreeing all that much or at all to be honest. I think besides Steen having a career year, they haven't really proven much of anything in the playoffs anyways, but they have enough defense that I can see them as a legit threat if they were to face the Hawks, especially if their PK hasn't improved by then. But the script gets flipped here so often that now it's not that big a deal having one of the worst PKs because they can score on the power play, whereas last year it was the opposite. So go figure.</p>

 

[R K]

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Well then we have Sharp, Hossa, Saad...and I threw that in because Steen has never played a full season and is having a steroid type season compared to his career totals. </p>


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The Blues are scoring right now, but they have little depth, and yes if one of those guys go down their forwards are anemic. Again I wasn't serious about the if they get hurt, just threw it in there as they have little depth and injuries are a very real thing. But don't worry I am prepared to reply to another post highlighting only one little point that misses the entire body of what was said.</p>


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To break it down, my opinion stands:</p>


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St. Louis does not have enough offense</p>


Colorado has zero defense</p>
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St Louis has zero depth.  They don't have guys like Morin and Pirri to throw in the line up if injury occurs.</p>


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Avs don't either and have no where near the Talent the Hawks or even the blues in Petroangelo/boumiester have on the back end.</p>


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I agree with your original point.</p>