TGDT: 4/8 Blackhawks @ Red Wings 6:30PM CSN

[howcho]

Not from an official source....



Toronto Arenas- Won the Cup in 1918, then lost out of the playoffs in 1919.



Toronto St. Pats- Won the Cup in 1922, then missed the playoffs the following year.



Detroit Red Wings- Won the Cup in 1937, then missed the playoffs the next season.



Chicago Blackhawks- Won the Cup in 1938, then missed the playoffs the next season.



Toronto Maple Leafs- Won the Cup in 1945, then missed the 1946 playoffs.



Toronto Maple Leafs- Won the Cup in 1967, then missed the playoffs the year of the expansion from 6 to 12 teams.



Montreal Canadiens- Won the Cup back-to-back years in 1968 and 69, then missed the playoffs in 1970.



New Jersey Devils- Won the Cup in 1995, then missed the playoffs the following year.



In all, the Toronto Arenas- St. Pats- Maple Leafs franchise has gone from winning it all to being on the outside the next year 4 times, the most of any franchise.

 

[Ashor-redtribe]

Not from an official source....



Toronto Arenas- Won the Cup in 1918, then lost out of the playoffs in 1919.



Toronto St. Pats- Won the Cup in 1922, then missed the playoffs the following year.



Detroit Red Wings- Won the Cup in 1937, then missed the playoffs the next season.



Chicago Blackhawks- Won the Cup in 1938, then missed the playoffs the next season.



Toronto Maple Leafs- Won the Cup in 1945, then missed the 1946 playoffs.



Toronto Maple Leafs- Won the Cup in 1967, then missed the playoffs the year of the expansion from 6 to 12 teams.



Montreal Canadiens- Won the Cup back-to-back years in 1968 and 69, then missed the playoffs in 1970.



New Jersey Devils- Won the Cup in 1995, then missed the playoffs the following year.



In all, the Toronto Arenas- St. Pats- Maple Leafs franchise has gone from winning it all to being on the outside the next year 4 times, the most of any franchise.

ok, so I have proven wrong yet again...jesus do you guys really have to look it up. Can't you just let it slide and pretend I was right.

 

[CLWolf81]

ok, so I have proven wrong yet again...jesus do you guys really have to look it up. Can't you just let it slide and pretend I was right.

It isn't IHN without someone providing some form of evidence to argue any said claims.

Anyways, I see a Hawks win tonight... I just hope it won't be in OT this time... -.-

 

[mikita's helmet]

There is no conspiracy and there is no "help" for one team or another to get into the playoffs. That's crazy talk.

...and 'round here we've had enough of that in the past.

 

[LordKOTL]

It isn't IHN without someone providing some form of evidence to argue any said claims.

Anyways, I see a Hawks win tonight... I just hope it won't be in OT this time... -.-

I could care less. A SOW will have me a bit worried for a tiebreaker, but as long as we get 2 points it's all that matters.



Each season 1 game at a time, each game 1 period at a time, each period 1 shift at a time.

 

[genefoley]

I could care less. A SOW will have me a bit worried for a tiebreaker, but as long as we get 2 points it's all that matters.



Each season 1 game at a time, each game 1 period at a time, each period 1 shift at a time.

Then why don't you?

 

[R K]

It isn't IHN without someone providing some form of evidence to argue any said claims.

Anyways, I see a Hawks win tonight... I just hope it won't be in OT this time... -.-

OT is fine. The Shoot out is what it can't be in!

 

[R K]

...and 'round here we've had enough of that in the past.

While not exlusive to the "other board" it mostly goes there. Similar to the dumb ass on the Blues board comparing Oshie to Toews.....

 

[R K]

Not from an official source....



Toronto Arenas- Won the Cup in 1918, then lost out of the playoffs in 1919.



Toronto St. Pats- Won the Cup in 1922, then missed the playoffs the following year.



Detroit Red Wings- Won the Cup in 1937, then missed the playoffs the next season.



Chicago Blackhawks- Won the Cup in 1938, then missed the playoffs the next season.



Toronto Maple Leafs- Won the Cup in 1945, then missed the 1946 playoffs.



Toronto Maple Leafs- Won the Cup in 1967, then missed the playoffs the year of the expansion from 6 to 12 teams.



Montreal Canadiens- Won the Cup back-to-back years in 1968 and 69, then missed the playoffs in 1970.



New Jersey Devils- Won the Cup in 1995, then missed the playoffs the following year.



In all, the Toronto Arenas- St. Pats- Maple Leafs franchise has gone from winning it all to being on the outside the next year 4 times, the most of any franchise.

You left out Carolina.



And none but Carolina were in the Salary Cap era where a team lost half the players from the previous year. So really not even Carolina can be compared to the Hawks.



They lost HALF the Stanley Cup winning team!!!

 

[Ashor-redtribe]

You left out Carolina.



And none but Carolina were in the Salary Cap era where a team lost half the players from the previous year. So really not even Carolina can be compared to the Hawks.



They lost HALF the Stanley Cup winning team!!!

I've heard 33% of the team was lost...but who's counting.

 

[R K]

I've heard 33% of the team was lost...but who's counting.

Burrish

Ladd

Versteeg

Sopel

Madden

Huet

Frazer

Niemi

Eager



then-



Boynton--Gone



Hossa missed time

Kane missed time

Campbell missed time

Sharp missed time

Bolland missed time





21 man roster theres 11 Plus games missed for injury, I guess it's OVER 50%.

 

[bierboy]

So Bettman is a Hawks supporter? Good for us I suppose.

No, in general, he's an athletic supporter....

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

You left out Carolina.



And none but Carolina were in the Salary Cap era where a team lost half the players from the previous year. So really not even Carolina can be compared to the Hawks.



They lost HALF the Stanley Cup winning team!!!

The fun of dreaming! Imagine if this team were still together. Especially seeing what Ladd and Buff are doing, and yes they have fallen off lately, but to just see those guys on this team again with Buffs physical presence vs Van and his battles with Pronger. Ladd in front of the net with his redirects, and his hitting. Versteeg had his fair share of dumb plays, but could make up for it a lot of times with a very timely goal.



Stan can tweak the 3rd and 4th lines till he's blue in the face but will never be able to recreate that magic.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

No, in general, he's an athletic supporter....

Glad to see that you are'nt calling him a jock sniffer.

 

[Ashor-redtribe]

I gatta tell ya guys, I'm getting a little nervous waiting for this game. If we win I will be cheering my ass off for a Col. win. We shall know tonight if we clinch or not.

 

[R K]

The fun of dreaming! Imagine if this team were still together. Especially seeing what Ladd and Buff are doing, and yes they have fallen off lately, but to just see those guys on this team again with Buffs physical presence vs Van and his battles with Pronger. Ladd in front of the net with his redirects, and his hitting. Versteeg had his fair share of dumb plays, but could make up for it a lot of times with a very timely goal.



Stan can tweak the 3rd and 4th lines till he's blue in the face but will never be able to recreate that magic.

While I agree I compare this team alot to the team two years ago. The one that missed the playoffs by 2pts. Not quite enough to get there, but had they, they'd have done damage.



I think with some extra Cap Space, Stans Daddy can re tweak the 3rd and 4th lines and add some depth at Center, which will make them a better team. Guys like Pisani, Bickell, ect that are not producing for lack of skill or just play, can be replaced with some that have better skills.



No team will repeat in the SC Era. The Wings were close but they were built right out of the gate, IE lock out, with a pretty talented young core.



This year was a tweaking year to begin with. No one expected them to win the Cup.

 

[Ashor-redtribe]

There are three scenarios that would get them into the playoffs before they travel home to play the Red Wings again in the regular-season finale Sunday.



(1) Chicago beats the Red Wings and Dallas loses in any way to the Avalanche.



This one is the most simple and straightforward. The Hawks currently have 95 points and the Stars have 93, and both teams have one game remaining after Friday. Obviously Dallas would not be able to make up a difference of three or four points in one game, so the Hawks would be in if this scenario were to come true.



2) Chicago loses in overtime or a shootout and Dallas loses in regulation.



The Hawks don't want to risk this one by losing, but if this scenario were to happen, the point they would earn for playing beyond regulation would be enough to put them three points ahead of the Stars heading into Game No. 82 for each team.



A Dallas regulation loss also would put the Ducks in regardless of how they do against L.A.



3) Chicago wins in regulation/overtime and Dallas wins in a shootout.



This is the most convoluted of the three scenarios because it involves a tiebreaking situation. In this scenario, Chicago and Dallas could still wind up tied in points at the end of the regular season, but the Blackhawks would be guaranteed to have at least one more non-shootout win and that would be enough to get them into the playoffs.

 

[Ashor-redtribe]

While I agree I compare this team alot to the team two years ago. The one that missed the playoffs by 2pts. Not quite enough to get there, but had they, they'd have done damage.



I think with some extra Cap Space, Stans Daddy can re tweak the 3rd and 4th lines and add some depth at Center, which will make them a better team. Guys like Pisani, Bickell, ect that are not producing for lack of skill or just play, can be replaced with some that have better skills.



No team will repeat in the SC Era. The Wings were close but they were built right out of the gate, IE lock out, with a pretty talented young core.



This year was a tweaking year to begin with. No one expected them to win the Cup.

RK you mean three years ago. Last year they won the cup. The year before, they lost to the wings in the playoffs. Three years ago it was I believe Nashville that snuck in.

 

[Rex]

RK you mean three years ago. Last year they won the cup. The year before, they lost to the wings in the playoffs. Three years ago it was I believe Nashville that snuck in.

I wouldn't consider placing 7th to be "sneaking in" especially with being 2 points out of fifth, and 6 points ahead of 9th. but oh well

 

[R K]

Yup 3 years ago. We lost out to Nasvhille two games before the Season ended.



The next year we lost in the WCF to the Wings. In a series that we weren't out of but for one game.



it was more experience IMO then, where as now it's depth. Experience is still here.