The All Star Game is a Joke

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and yes! the allstar game blows

but it doesn't have to, and that's the rub. It in its current incarnation is insane. Really? You're going to let fans vote for a game that has World Series implications? It's ridiculous.
 

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but it doesn't have to, and that's the rub. It in its current incarnation is insane. Really? You're going to let fans vote for a game that has World Series implications? It's ridiculous.

right, if it didnt count that whatever. but since the stupid home field is determined by this there should be a different way to create a roster. the starters should be the best players at the time and the fans can vote for utility/backup players
 

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I want the NL to win. This way we sweep at home. :)
 

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They should have writers or someone other than fans vote. There would still be some bias, but not as much stupidity.

There's so many fans out there that either vote for only their team or they aren't smart enough to know the players that are actually playing well so they assume that the popular names deserve to be in the all-star game.

It's ridiculous that this is how home field advantage is decided. Last year's world series could've been a lot different.
 

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How about you allow the manager to select 20 players to take with him to the All-Star Game and allow the fans to vote in 5 bench players from the respective AL and NL? That way the popular players will get in, and the talented players will get in.
 

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agreed. that would be a good approach
 

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i like the current allstar game format

let fans vote who they want to see
 

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Anything is better than a fan vote for starters and coaches choosing the bench players.
 

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fans need to vote.

they are good at it



they are right in not choosing konerko and aj for the all star game...they are not all stars
 

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fans need to vote.

they are good at it



they are right in not choosing konerko and aj for the all star game...they are not all stars

I think Konerko and LaHair should both get in the ASG this year, but neither as starters. LaHair leads all MLB 1b in Home Runs, and Konerko leads all MLB 1b in BA.
 

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I think Konerko and LaHair should both get in the ASG this year, but neither as starters. LaHair leads all MLB 1b in Home Runs, and Konerko leads all MLB 1b in BA.

Who should start over Konerko in the AL? LaHair ought to be on the bench, but I could see him being "snubbed" when Dempster or Castro is the Cubs lone representative.
 

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I think if Lehair had kept up the ridiculous pace he had earlier in the season he could've been starter. But who knows.

I bet Pujols will be 1B for the AL.

Konerko will get snubbed like always.
 

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Who should start over Konerko in the AL? LaHair ought to be on the bench, but I could see him being "snubbed" when Dempster or Castro is the Cubs lone representative.

I don't know that anyone "should", but you could easily make an argument for Fielder, imo.
 

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I don't see how when Konerko has been statistically in just about everyway.

B/c Prince plays 1b more.

Now again, I'm not claiming one should start over the other, just playing devil's advocate.

Konerko has played in 51 games this season, only 35 req'd him to play in the field.

Prince has started all 56 games @ 1b.

I looked up fielding %s, figuring those #s would be in Konerko's favor, and they would be IF HE QUALIFIED...but he doesn't have enough starts @ 1b to qualify for it.

Prince and Paulie have the same # of hits and runs. Konerko has 1 more double and 2 more Homers, but Prince has 4 more RBI. BB and Ks are nearly even. Paulie's got a better Avg, but Prince is no slouch at .317.

So no, Paulie isn't statistically better in just about every way.
 

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B/c Prince plays 1b more.

Now again, I'm not claiming one should start over the other, just playing devil's advocate.

Konerko has played in 51 games this season, only 35 req'd him to play in the field.

Prince has started all 56 games @ 1b.

I looked up fielding %s, figuring those #s would be in Konerko's favor, and they would be IF HE QUALIFIED...but he doesn't have enough starts @ 1b to qualify for it.

Prince and Paulie have the same # of hits and runs. Konerko has 1 more double and 2 more Homers, but Prince has 4 more RBI. BB and Ks are nearly even. Paulie's got a better Avg, but Prince is no slouch at .317.

So no, Paulie isn't statistically better in just about every way.

Konerko has a higher average, OBP, SLG, OPS, OPS+ and more HRs. He is a better fielder than Fielder. So basically Prince has 4 more RBI and has played in five more games at 1B. So okay I will rephrase it, and say Konerko numbers are better in all but two categories that really aren't that meaningful in evaluating a player's ability.
 

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Konerko has a higher average, OBP, SLG, OPS, OPS+ and more HRs. He is a better fielder than Fielder. So basically Prince has 4 more RBI and has played in five more games at 1B. So okay I will rephrase it, and say Konerko numbers are better in all but two categories that really aren't that meaningful in evaluating a player's ability.

Prince has played in 21 more games @ 1b, according to espn/stats.
 

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