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LaCanfora is consistently wrong....I believe he just makes shit up; it is so whacked out...
LaCanfora is consistently wrong....I believe he just makes shit up; it is so whacked out...
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In terms of record, if ownership believes that Pace is safe because of the talent he just brought in last draft, then the coaches are more on the hot seat and Pace is safe.......Pace will get another coach unless these players he just drafted bomb out.....
The 17 draft looks like a draft of very high ceiling risky prospects that a GM safe in his position would select....
The 17 draft looks like a draft of very high ceiling risky prospects that a GM safe in his position would select....
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Technically, it would be coming off the best draft in 13 years (if you are referring to the 2003 draft).
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Try using common sense. It helps.
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well said Windy... the other narrative that is annonying was the 49ers rookie GM schooled the bears for draft picks.
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WC is saying Pace considers himself safe because ownership has told him that he is(that draft is part of the reason why ownership has told him that)
Do we have an actual source on that? I know George met with the media back in January but I don't recall him touting last years draft as some sort of feather in Pace's cap that will keep his job safe... Perhaps I'm wrong but I don't recall anything in that vein being said...
The only thing remotely close I can find is his promise of patience: “Like I said, I’m not a patient person. But I promised Ryan that I would be patient.” Not exactly a ringing endorsement but ok...
And when pressed further on what would happen if we had another 3-13 or 4-12 season he offered another non-committal response: “Well, there’s a great line in the movie True Grit: ‘I don’t deal in hypotheticals. The world as it is is vexing enough.’ We’re trying to get better every day. Every season is evaluated at the conclusion of the season on the merits of that season.” Um ok George, thanks for the non-answer that don't really tell us much of anything.
I'm glad people are pleased with Pace's drafting but results matter. If the Bears continue to post losing seasons and miss the playoffs are we really doing to be arguing Pace should keep his job because his drafts look good on paper? George can blow smoke up reporters butts all offseason long about how patient he's willing to be with Pace but if the team continues to finish dead last in the division I bet that patience dries up real quick. Another bad losing season or two and I don't think George is going to care that he hit on Jordan Howard in the 5th round 4 years ago...
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I look at it this way with Glennon and Trubisky. Basically they are two unknowns (yes Glennon not so much but still) and Pace has given himself 2 chances at a franchise QB.
worst case scenario is that neither of the two work out and the bears are back where they started (and probably with a new GM)
middle ground scenario is one of the two is a decent QB that lets the bears compete
better middle ground scenario is one of them is a franchise QB and the other sucks, so you just drop the one that sucks or keep him as a backup.
BEST case scenario both look great and prove that they have what it takes to be a possible franchise QB. then you are able to dangle one of them (probably glennon) for draft picks ... like New England is with Grappallo.
if Glennon is as butthurt as some of the media say then someone needs to sit him down and say pal you haven't done anything in this league but you have shown some ability so thats why you got paid. work your butt off and play well and you have nothing to worry about with Trubisky.
worst case scenario is that neither of the two work out and the bears are back where they started (and probably with a new GM)
middle ground scenario is one of the two is a decent QB that lets the bears compete
better middle ground scenario is one of them is a franchise QB and the other sucks, so you just drop the one that sucks or keep him as a backup.
BEST case scenario both look great and prove that they have what it takes to be a possible franchise QB. then you are able to dangle one of them (probably glennon) for draft picks ... like New England is with Grappallo.
if Glennon is as butthurt as some of the media say then someone needs to sit him down and say pal you haven't done anything in this league but you have shown some ability so thats why you got paid. work your butt off and play well and you have nothing to worry about with Trubisky.
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I meant last seasons draft.
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I think Pace is tied to Trubisky, which means he is here for at least 3 more years, which also runs him into the end of his contract.
I don't think Pace can survive 3 more losing seasons unless Trubisky looks amazing in his debut.
Bernstien referenced this today. There are 2 different timetables going on. Fox is on the hot seat and needs Glennon and Pace has a long range view. His assertion and his "contacts" confirmed that Pace is able to take a long range view because he has been afforded that time.
I don't think Pace can survive 3 more losing seasons unless Trubisky looks amazing in his debut.
Bernstien referenced this today. There are 2 different timetables going on. Fox is on the hot seat and needs Glennon and Pace has a long range view. His assertion and his "contacts" confirmed that Pace is able to take a long range view because he has been afforded that time.
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Another point that needs to not be missed, Pace convinced the entire NFL the Bears loved Glennon.
Mike Glennon.
This was a huge component of Pace's flawless misdirection plan. Even the 49ers GM thought the Bears were committed to Glennon. From the Peter King article:
Clearly the strong words and the big contract confused them. ESPN was talking about Solomon Thomas right up until Goodell said
"Mitchell." Based on the fact the Bears got Trubisky, its clear the other interested teams had no idea they needed to hurdle them.
That doesn't happen if the Bears go into the draft with scrubs like Sanchez and Hoyer.
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Can we also discuss this bullshit idea that John Fox had no idea that Pace was going to do this?
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A couple strong points came up on this and La Confora is a total hack.
Schefter said that Fox 100% new that he was at the top of the board, he may not have known about the trade until an hour before.
Rapaport was on The Score and said that Fox knew about Trubisky and that he was at the secret dinner. In fact they were worried about bring Fox to Chapel Hill because he is super well known in North Carolina.
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More trades into the top 5 that went belly up when Trubisky was picked.
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GM Dave Caldwell tells @SiriusXMNFL that @Jaguars got calls from teams interested in No. 4 pick for QB. Assumes it was for @Mtrubisky10
GM Dave Caldwell tells @SiriusXMNFL that @Jaguars got calls from teams interested in No. 4 pick for QB. Assumes it was for @Mtrubisky10
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Hey guys...perhaps something is missing here for me. Can you give me a timeline of events?
I missed draft night in the first round. I am failing at doing a Bikram 30 day challenge, and I think I drug tested for the state that night, ended up coming home and the DVR missed the beginning.
The trade was finalized with San Francisco 30 minutes before trade? Was Garrett announced before draft like in some years? And then our trade was announced? Or trade was announced during the 49ers clock?
Paying for the deal to be done before the clock even starts is something that tips the trade for me to "better safe than sorry".
I think San Fran actually could have sold the 2 to us, and then sold the 3 to Carolina and got Foster if not for the one issue, of McCaffery having a former coach on Carolina staff.
That made trading up for Fournette unnecessary to them.
The final measurment will probably show that we won the Trubisky for Thomas plus picks trade, and won it handidly. But that is just because Lynch took a class with Thomas and was locked in for some reason. Don't buy the all things were equal BS, 49ers wanted Thomas more than Foster, and some in the organization would have viewed that as a big drop, while the GM himself really wanted Thomas.
I missed draft night in the first round. I am failing at doing a Bikram 30 day challenge, and I think I drug tested for the state that night, ended up coming home and the DVR missed the beginning.
The trade was finalized with San Francisco 30 minutes before trade? Was Garrett announced before draft like in some years? And then our trade was announced? Or trade was announced during the 49ers clock?
Paying for the deal to be done before the clock even starts is something that tips the trade for me to "better safe than sorry".
I think San Fran actually could have sold the 2 to us, and then sold the 3 to Carolina and got Foster if not for the one issue, of McCaffery having a former coach on Carolina staff.
That made trading up for Fournette unnecessary to them.
The final measurment will probably show that we won the Trubisky for Thomas plus picks trade, and won it handidly. But that is just because Lynch took a class with Thomas and was locked in for some reason. Don't buy the all things were equal BS, 49ers wanted Thomas more than Foster, and some in the organization would have viewed that as a big drop, while the GM himself really wanted Thomas.
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yeah....that just means teams couldn't stomach the price to trade up to 2, and were checking out prices at 3, 4, 5, etc, probably to jump the Jets if Trubisky got past the first 2 or 3.
We'll never know the whole story.
If 49ers had a 12 to 2 offer that was legitimate, and extra 4th rounder would not be a consideration. They would be weighing multiple firsts, a 2nd, 4th, next years 3rd....the price would have to be higher than Washington's 5 to 2. or whatever it was.
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A team might be looking to trade down and garner picks. But that same team might prefer to stay in the top 5 even if it means getting less back in a trade. So a Browns trade might be appealing to them, but the Bears trade might be MORE appealing because they only move down 1 pick.
You are basing your logic off of what you would do, not what the 49ers would do.
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