The Bears Media Narratives

[GSH_34]

That's what Pace wanted them to think though.

And its worked out pretty well for us so far that everybody was dumb enough to fall for it.

You think Pace's intention with Glennon was to fool the media? It may have been a byproduct but that's a stretch.

But it does go to show how stupid the national media is and how they grab on to misinformation without vetting it.

Funny part though was that Lynch had no clue. A GM that can't see through that contract? LOL

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[GSH_34]

Rueben Foster needs another surgery and was medically rejected by a bunch of teams.

John Lynch winning the draft.

So to recap:

- Doesn't know about 5th year of rookie deals

- Thought the Bears' contract with Glennon meant no QB early

- Trades up for a QB that likely goes undrafted

- Trades up for an LB that needs another shoulder surgery, wasn't cleared medically by a lot of NFL teams. And would've taken said player at 3 if Thomas was gone.

El-oh-el

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[GSH_34]

Because if you call 5, you are probably calling 2 and 3.

There was a ton of interest in him in the top 5.

Yep. Maybe Lynch was bluffing. Maybe he wasn't. But Pace had reasonable suspicion that there was another team and didn't want to lose his guy.

Lynch also took a big risk here. If Trubisky turns out to be a stud, he'd have passed him up.

2 third rounders is a small price to pay to ensure Pace got his guy.

Kinda like when you buy a house. Find the one, know it's a hot market/other people have seen it recently, seller tells you another offer is on the table but if you come up $5k, they'll sell it to you.

You can either walk away, call their bluff, risk losing he house. Or, up the offer and get the house you really want.

Pace didn't want to lose his guy. I respect that. And Pace wasn't dealing from a position of strength.

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[tgmxd]

You think Pace's intention with Glennon was to fool the media? It may have been a byproduct but that's a stretch.

But it does go to show how stupid the national media is and how they grab on to misinformation without vetting it.

Funny part though was that Lynch had no clue. A GM that can't see through that contract? LOL

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To be clear: my opinion is that Pace fooled the rest of the NFL and the media followed their lead.

But yes, it is crazy NFL teams didn't see through it. But clearly they did not.

 

[iffybiz]

They (media) are mad because the Bears blindsided them. Whenever, a teams draft pick comes up, someone will say "I think it's going to be......."
They do this because teams will tell them off the record who they are interested in with the idea they don't leak it until it can't hurt their draft.
The Bears clearly didn't do this, even Fox didn't leak to his usual sources, which I'm guessing is why we have the narrative that Fox didn't know who was being taken.
They difference between this situation and the Philly drafting of Wentz was that everyone knew they were going to take him. They were all in on it and could then support it, the Bears fooled them so they knock it.


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[FirstTimer]

Because if you call 5, you are probably calling 2 and 3.

There was a ton of interest in him in the top 5.

Pace was getting calls for the #3 pick from teams that he said wanted a QB.

If they are calling #3, then it only stands to reason they are also calling #2.

 

[run and shoot]

Pace was getting calls for the #3 pick from teams that he said wanted a QB.

If they are calling #3, then it only stands to reason they are also calling #2.

......that would be stupid of those teams to tell him they wanted a qb

 

[GSH_34]

......that would be stupid of those teams to tell him they wanted a qb

Not necessarily. Teams ask who the player is to make sure they don't take the one they want. Sometimes they tell you, sometimes they don't.

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[WindyCity]

Pace was getting calls for the #3 pick from teams that he said wanted a QB.

If they are calling #3, then it only stands to reason they are also calling #2.

For me if you love the QB, 1% is too much of a risk when we are talking about 3rd round picks.

 

[iueyedoc]

In terms of record, if ownership believes that Pace is safe because of the talent he just brought in last draft, then the coaches are more on the hot seat and Pace is safe.......Pace will get another coach unless these players he just drafted bomb out.....

The 17 draft looks like a draft of very high ceiling risky prospects that a GM safe in his position would select....

As opposed to J Angelo, who went with the, "I am to tan, egotistical, and lazy to put in the work cuz we went to the SuperBowl and I'm safe" low floor low ceiling 2007 draft.

2007 1 Greg Olsen
2007 2 Dan Bazuin
2007 3 Garrett Wolfe
2007 3 Michael Okwo
2007 4 Josh Beekman
2007 5 Kevin Payne
2007 5 Corey Graham
2007 7 Trumaine McBride

 

[iueyedoc]

yeah....that just means teams couldn't stomach the price to trade up to 2, and were checking out prices at 3, 4, 5, etc, probably to jump the Jets if Trubisky got past the first 2 or 3.

We'll never know the whole story.

If 49ers had a 12 to 2 offer that was legitimate, and extra 4th rounder would not be a consideration. They would be weighing multiple firsts, a 2nd, 4th, next years 3rd....the price would have to be higher than Washington's 5 to 2. or whatever it was.

Because teams were calling about the 4 doesn't mean they were not calling about the 2. Teams are preparing for all contingencies. And with not knowing the Bears pick, Lynch wanted one of 2 players so dropping one spot guaranteed him of that, probably why Pace was able to move up one spot cheaper than would be expected.

 

[iueyedoc]

“Man, who do they want?” Lynch said. “Gotta be Solomon, right?”

“Call me crazy,” Marathe said. “But I think it’s Trubisky.”

“Then why’d they go get [free-agent quarterback Mike] Glennon?” Lynch said.

I feel like Lynch seems like a bit of a dolt. First as a GM he doesn't even know the 5th year option exists, sort of an important thing as a GM

And then he doesn't grasp that signing Glennon was not a smokescreen or an impediment to drafting a potential franchise QB. Signing Glennon was a swing at a potential competent to better QB that carries no more than a 1 year commitment, nothing more nothing less.

Then to think a GM would give up 2 3's and a 4 to grab one of 2 comparable tier 2 DE's with a half dozen similar impact players available is just a bit thick.

 

[Mongo_76]

I feel like Lynch seems like a bit of a dolt. First as a GM he doesn't even know the 5th year option exists, sort of an important thing as a GM

And then he doesn't grasp that signing Glennon was not a smokescreen or an impediment to drafting a potential franchise QB. Signing Glennon was a swing at a potential competent to better QB that carries no more than a 1 year commitment, nothing more nothing less.

Then to think a GM would give up 2 3's and a 4 to grab one of 2 comparable tier 2 DE's with a half dozen similar impact players available is just a bit thick.

In hind-sight, which I have every right to use, assuming that Trubisky has been their guy, Glennon was more looked at by the Bears as a Bridge QB and potentially an insurance policy if Cleveland somehow took Trubisky.

I was not initially pissed at the Glennon signing until he followed it up with "He is our starting QB", and then signed Sanchez.

 

[Mongo_76]

......that would be stupid of those teams to tell him they wanted a qb

Cleveland was telling the whole world thy wanted Trubisky.

 

[playthrough2001]

I feel like Lynch seems like a bit of a dolt. First as a GM he doesn't even know the 5th year option exists, sort of an important thing as a GM

And then he doesn't grasp that signing Glennon was not a smokescreen or an impediment to drafting a potential franchise QB. Signing Glennon was a swing at a potential competent to better QB that carries no more than a 1 year commitment, nothing more nothing less.

Then to think a GM would give up 2 3's and a 4 to grab one of 2 comparable tier 2 DE's with a half dozen similar impact players available is just a bit thick.

CTE for Lynch... Also, Shanny is a brilliant offensive mind but when it was crunch time in the Super Bowl, he blew it. If he plays it smart after the Jones catch, the Falcons win. It will be interesting to see how these guys operate the next few years. Can you imagine if they took Foster at 3?

 

[Warrior Spirit]

......that would be stupid of those teams to tell him they wanted a qb

None of it makes sense but most who post here are so easily duped it's laughable. Outside this MB, Pace is just seen for what he is, a bad GM in over his head.

 

[Adipost]

CTE for Lynch... Also, Shanny is a brilliant offensive mind but when it was crunch time in the Super Bowl, he blew it. If he plays it smart after the Jones catch, the Falcons win. It will be interesting to see how these guys operate the next few years. Can you imagine if they took Foster at 3?

I don't think it would have been that much of a stretch. In their final mock drafts, Jeremiah and Mayock still had Foster going at #10 and #11.

 

[playthrough2001]

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I don't think it would have been that much of a stretch. In their final mock drafts, Jeremiah and Mayock still had Foster going at #10 and #11.

They (Jeremiah and Mayock) obviously did not have that final medical.

 

[iueyedoc]

In hind-sight, which I have every right to use, assuming that Trubisky has been their guy, Glennon was more looked at by the Bears as a Bridge QB and potentially an insurance policy if Cleveland somehow took Trubisky.

I was not initially pissed at the Glennon signing until he followed it up with "He is our starting QB", and then signed Sanchez.

I was not excited about the Glennon signing, but if you look at the pros and cons it makes sense. The money is immaterial. What Pace got is a guy that is at the least experienced and competent and at the time guaranteed the Bears had, at minimum, a guy that could function under center game 1.
Same with Sanchez, I hope to never see him take a snap as a Bear but he does make sense. From reports, he did have a positive influence on Dak last season. Not sure Glennon is going to be all warm and fuzzy with MT. Sanchez knows his place and realizes he is that guy that is happy to be getting a paycheck to be a rookies nursemaid/emergency backup.

Glennon/Sanchez/Shaw looks like typical Bears QB patchwork.
Glennon/Trubisky/Sanchez looks like a clear plan of succession.

 

[The Hawk]

When the Bears tumble out of the gate, how long do you think that the pressure will be on Fox to start Trubisky? Basically their entire draft was pretty much Trubisky and some reaches who won't really matter down the road. My guess is that one way or another, after three games into the season, Trubisky will be handed the reins. I wish him well.