The Case for Calvin Ridley -- WR Alabama

[RisWell01]

compared to this class Ridley is a top tier wr but compared to the last 5 years or more top 10 pick wr he is not a top tier.

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[Toast88]

Revive this thread in a few years. Calvin Ridley will be a good NFL receiver, and I don't want to hear any bitching about how we could've had him from the people who are saying #8 is too steep a price.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I look at him and his skill set---People always talk about "safe" picks and often talk about O-Linemen or the like. I think this would be a pretty safe pick and a great resource for your young quarterback.

 

[fx1718]

compared to this class Ridley is a top tier wr but compared to the last 5 years or more top 10 pick wr he is not a top tier.

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So hes not compared to Kevin White?

I think the Bears will pass on Ridley and regret it later.

 

[legendxofxlink]

So hes not compared to Kevin White?

I think the Bears will pass on Ridley and regret it later.

White's raw athleticism was unparalleled. Unfortunately, he's spent more time parallel to the floor on a gurney or hospital bed than catching passes.

 

[Toast88]

White's raw athleticism was unparalleled. Unfortunately, he's spent more time parallel to the floor on a gurney or hospital bed instead of catching passes.

Ridley runs much better routes than White and is NFL-ready right from the get-go. He's not a project. The Bears should focus on drafting guys in the first round who aren't projects, especially when it's a top 10 pick.

 

[fx1718]

White's raw athleticism was unparalleled. Unfortunately, he's spent more time parallel to the floor on a gurney or hospital bed than catching passes.

Calvin R is a better WR prospect coming out was my point. Sure KW is more athletic but a bigger stretch top 10.

 

[legendxofxlink]

Ridley runs much better routes than White and is NFL-ready right from the get-go. He's not a project. The Bears should focus on drafting guys in the first round who aren't projects, especially when it's a top 10 pick.

While true, Pace seems to think differently. All of his first round picks have been good character projects with high ceilings. And yes, Ridley is definitely the better WR coming out.

 

[Myk]

For long time college fans, how does Ridley compare to the likes of Ocho and Megatron?

 

[bamainatlanta]

As great as Wayne was, he didn't break 1000yds until his 4th year. Pace needs an immediate impact player at #8. Or he needs more picks. Trade down, acquire picks, and draft the BPA

 

[Aesopian]

If Ryan Pace has a high grade on Calvin Ridley he should pull the trigger I trust his drafting enough.

 

[Jack Lame]

Ridley is more Marvin Harrison than Reggie Wayne.

 

[Bearly]

Calvin R is a better WR prospect coming out was my point. Sure KW is more athletic but a bigger stretch top 10.

While I agree that Ridley is a polished and safer pick, White was not a stretch. Fail with a wider spread from floor to ceiling but not a stretch on draft day.

 

[fx1718]

While I agree that Ridley is a polished and safer pick, White was not a stretch. Fail with a wider spread from floor to ceiling but not a stretch on draft day.

I agree not a stretch overall. I just mean I think Ridley is a safer pick at 8 than White was.

 

[gallagher]

As great as Wayne was, he didn't break 1000yds until his 4th year. Pace needs an immediate impact player at #8. Or he needs more picks. Trade down, acquire picks, and draft the BPA

Demand for immediate results leads to teams like the browns to switch regimes every two years. Rule #1 for NFL success is to not copy the Browns. Rookie players sometimes require patience to become the best they can be.

If we demand that our first rounder is immediately putting up top numbers, we'll never draft the best WR prospect. Fact is, Amari Cooper and AJ Green both had better rookie years than Calvin Johnson, and even then both only barely crossed 1000 yards. Our offense could use impact players at lots of positions, but we won't be challenging for a Superbowl for a couple years at best. The best long term investment for Trubisky is to draft his a potential #1 target now and let them grow together.

Take that with a grain of salt, because I am a big Ridley fan, and I think he's the best move for us going forward. But unless you see us competing for a playoff spot and a SB run next year, we need to be getting the best WR talent this draft has to offer. Because right now, we don't have anyone that can conceivably put up 800 yards in a season. How long can Howard stay productive facing 8 man fronts every play? How can Trubisky lead our team to the playoffs without a #1 target? Buying 3 FA WRs won't cut it unless someone great magically gets cut. I say draft Ridley and look forward to a productive offense in the near future.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Demand for immediate results leads to teams like the browns to switch regimes every two years. Rule #1 for NFL success is to not copy the Browns. Rookie players sometimes require patience to become the best they can be.

If we demand that our first rounder is immediately putting up top numbers, we'll never draft the best WR prospect. Fact is, Amari Cooper and AJ Green both had better rookie years than Calvin Johnson, and even then both only barely crossed 1000 yards. Our offense could use impact players at lots of positions, but we won't be challenging for a Superbowl for a couple years at best. The best long term investment for Trubisky is to draft his a potential #1 target now and let them grow together.

Take that with a grain of salt, because I am a big Ridley fan, and I think he's the best move for us going forward. But unless you see us competing for a playoff spot and a SB run next year, we need to be getting the best WR talent this draft has to offer. Because right now, we don't have anyone that can conceivably put up 800 yards in a season. How long can Howard stay productive facing 8 man fronts every play? How can Trubisky lead our team to the playoffs without a #1 target? Buying 3 FA WRs won't cut it unless someone great magically gets cut. I say draft Ridley and look forward to a productive offense in the near future.

Ridley isn't a #1 WR.

 

[fx1718]

Ridley isn't a #1 WR.

Ill bet he ends up being a great WR and a #1 for someone. We live in the same state. What ya wanna bet?

 

[gallagher]

Ridley isn't a #1 WR.

Based on what metric? Unless he goes to a team in QB hell, before his rookie contract is up, he'll be out-performing anyone we could conceivably have on our roster opening day of next season. He is the best WR in this draft, is noted for being an excellent route runner, comes from a well-coached program, doesn't have a habit if taking plays off, has plenty of height, can line up anywhere and still be effective, and is undoubtedly fast enough to make it in the league (hell, he was timed at a 4.35 40 at 'bama).

I don't know what you look for for a potential #1 WR, but by every metric I see he has what it takes to be one. Unless you are holding his underwhelming QB year against him, or you are looking for a guy who will nominate from day 1 (which is rare at the position)I don't see how you can knock his game.

 

[JUSTWIN]

If he runs a 4.3 at the combine, he’ll be top 10 pick.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Based on what metric? Unless he goes to a team in QB hell, before his rookie contract is up, he'll be out-performing anyone we could conceivably have on our roster opening day of next season. He is the best WR in this draft, is noted for being an excellent route runner, comes from a well-coached program, doesn't have a habit if taking plays off, has plenty of height, can line up anywhere and still be effective, and is undoubtedly fast enough to make it in the league (hell, he was timed at a 4.35 40 at 'bama).

I don't know what you look for for a potential #1 WR, but by every metric I see he has what it takes to be one. Unless you are holding his underwhelming QB year against him, or you are looking for a guy who will nominate from day 1 (which is rare at the position)I don't see how you can knock his game.

as Georgia coaches noted with what they saw in the Auburn game, which is exactly what Clemson's coaches did as well, they realized they didn't have to bracket him or give him extra attention. They also had much success against him using press coverage. Says enough right there.
I'd be fine with Ridley later in the first. There are players that can make an immediate impact at #8, I just don't think he's one of them. As someone has noted, his ceiling is a #2 WR and his floor is a #2 WR. If you had to watch every UA game this year, you'd see it too. I'm married into the Alabama alumni--pretty much every Saturday is nothing but Roll Tide.

 

[gallagher]

as Georgia coaches noted with what they saw in the Auburn game, which is exactly what Clemson's coaches did as well, they realized they didn't have to bracket him or give him extra attention. They also had much success against him using press coverage. Says enough right there.
I'd be fine with Ridley later in the first. There are players that can make an immediate impact at #8, I just don't think he's one of them. As someone has noted, his ceiling is a #2 WR and his floor is a #2 WR. If you had to watch every UA game this year, you'd see it too. I'm married into the Alabama alumni--pretty much every Saturday is nothing but Roll Tide.

Well at least you're watching the games (I actually should have guessed based on your name). Can't say enough how irritating it is on this board for people to make sweeping judgments on a stat sheet.

I see him making good cuts and accelerating and I see a guy that can grow into a #1. I'll respect your opinion though. I'll be happy with him at 8. I'll admit there's a short list of guys that I'd be happy with, but God damn it I'm tired of having nothing to look forward to at the receiver position.