I think that last line can be a combination of both. When i woman tells you what she wants in a man or what women want so to speak, they are describing a husband, not the guy they will just meet and regularly **** the shit out of, the guy she just described wouldnt have a chance at that.
So If its real dating for a real long term relationship, I would listen to women over men. When its goin out for poon, look at a guy thats doin it right.
and i know fast talking foul mouthed ignorant smartass works. My college sexual hero mr. currently happily married We'll call him skeletor, was the most notorious heart breaker known to all the women in Dunn-Barton and hamilton-Whitten halls. The man was not particularly attractive i mean he wasnt hideous or anything, he was just absurdly average with a pretty bad case of acne, and looked like skeletor because he was so damn skinny and boney(my buddy alex coined calling him skeletor) Let my put it this way being very unmodest, I was a very attractive guy back in my more fit days in college, and I couldnt even dream of holding a candle to him at the time. But skeletor, skelelor could talk his way into the panties of any pretty little thing he came across that peaked his interest. He could get any chick he wanted. The ***** of it all, after he'd score a one night stand with these broads, they would like fall in love with him on top of it and he had to break hearts left and right. One night he had to tell this broad how it was in my dorm room with me present, I was like now your talkin buddy, leave her right on my bed in tears I think I can take over from there.
He was the best wingman on the face of the planet too, he could talk a ***** into his bed and her friend into yours without breakin a sweat.
Anyway. I know for a fact it is possible to be a pretty homley dude, and pork some of the hottest chicks in existence if you can talk.