Are you talking about "posters" or me? Make up your mind......
I haven't read this forum since early Tuesday, so my bad for responding so late. That post was directed at anyone sharing those beliefs. The arguments against Rose get a little confusing at times in these threads.
Arn Tellem is their agent, he goes directly to Reinsdorf with issues concerning his clients....he doesn't use the media. It should be obvious who I am talking about. I think YOU know who I am talking about...
I am fully aware of who Tellum is & his role. I also know that he works hand in hand with BJ Armstrong & Reggie Rose, while representing his highest profile NBA client Derrick Rose.
1. Derrick Rose STATED AS FACT THAT HE DOESN'T RECRUIT! How many times do you have to be told that? Big difference between recruiting NBA players and an agent trying to get two of his clients to play together. You have to be kiddng me with this...
How many times do you want me to acknowledge the quote that you posted?.......You showed me Rose stating that he doesn't recruit & I gave you props for educating me on Rose's words.
The problem is that you want to have your cake & eat it too. There is
no difference between Rose recruiting or his agent (camp) recruiting. You want to criticize Rose for not recruiting, while also attempting to convince me that his agent (camp) are recruiting behind his back. Tellum works for Derrick Rose. Derrick Rose does not work for Tellum.
I am assuming that you are reasonably intelligent, it seems that way from your posts. I am hoping you are not basketball Special person. So you should know the difference between Rose stating that he does not recruit (who the hell told you I was pissed over that) and Arn Tellem doing what agents do.
Thanks for the back-handed compliment. For the record, you've quickly become one of my favorites on this board, regardless of our disagreements.
Like I said above, there is
no difference between Rose or his agent (camp) recruiting players.
So tell me...is Mr. Tellem supposed to go out and recruit Lebron? Carmelo? Kobe? Kevin Love? No...why? It ain't legal! He doesn't represent them.
It's also not "technically" legal for Tellum (Rose camp) to recruit LaMarcus Aldridge to the Bulls, while LMA is still under contract to the Blazers. Sure, agents listen to their clients & orchestrate trades, but they're not supposed to actively recruit.
The Bulls went so far as to have tampered with Joe Johnson in 2010. They had a deal done with him prior to free agency even starting. Atlanta offered him much more money in a max deal, that is supposedly the only reason that the deal didn't happen. Why did they have an inside track on Johnson? Arn Tellem.
Regarding the underlined, was that reported or do you have inside knowledge?......I'm not trying to paint you in a corner. I'm actually curious about that info because this is my first time hearing about it.
The you state that it sounds like I believe every rumor that "paints" Rose. No, it sounds like you are bloviating and refuse to read.
I just think that too many internet posters are quick to believe any rumor/blog/article that makes Rose look bad, but are quick to dismiss any rumor/blog/article that makes JR & the FO look bad. It's almost like the PR arm of the Bulls franchise has plants on these internet message boards that push a particular narrative....lol.
My apologies if you thought that I was putting you in that group because I'm not.
And you just showed up recently. You wasn't around when I criticized Reinsdorf for supposedly blocking a trade for Gasol were you? I stated that the FO had been ineffective in getting coveted free agents. But then again, I don't recall many players scrambling to come to Chicago, even when MJ was here.
You're right. I am new here & I wasn't aware of your past positions. Like I said above, I was speaking about these present issues & I wasn't trying to pigeon-hole your views.
Now John Paxson is supposed to show up and turn water into.....James Harden.
There is nothing in your posts that shows me I was wrong. You attempted to show me that a Harden trade was impossible, but I showed you that it was.