The Official GM Winter Meetings Thread

[Captain Obvious]

Those tools on NSBB think Wells is better than him.:lmao::facepalm:

Wells is better than him, especially when you bring money into the picture.

 

[Capt. Serious]

You're right, Wells is a Cy Young candidate. Mark it down brah.

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

You're right, Wells is a Cy Young candidate. Mark it down brah.

You and CO should do a sig bet

 

[DewsSox79]

You and CO should do a sig bet

that would be funny.

 

[Jntg4]

- The Giants are looking for a “6th pitcher” in their rotation, basically a swing guy. Another Source says the Cubs could send Jeff Baker and Tom Gorzelanny to the Giants for Mark DeRosa and a midlevel prospect. DeRosa would assume the usual utility role for the Cubs. Money is close to being even in the deal. He did say a trade like this would mean the trade with Texas would not take place.

From waldo's source.

 

[Jntg4]

More from waldo's source.

Here are some notes from Day 3 at the Winter Meetings-

- The Cubs have officially sign Carlos Pena to a one-year deal worth 10 million dollars. Some of the money will be deferred. I must be going against the grain here but I think it is a good deal for the Cubs. The money maybe a little steep but I think the move from the AL East to the NL Central along with going to a hitter friendly ballpark will increase his numbers. Not to mention Rudy Jaramillo might be able to really help his swing. I expect Pena to hit around a .250 avg with 35 homers and 100 RBI next season. Looking at the market, if he puts up those numbers next season then he will be worth over 10 million a year for his next contract.

- Bruce Levine says the Cubs are interested in Ray’s pitcher Matt Garza. The Rays are indeed shopping to reduce payroll and gain prospects in the process. He is owed a pay raise from the 3.35 million he made last season. Levine does not say what the Rays are asking for but the rumor is the price is somewhat high at the moment. If the Cubs traded for Matt Garza he would be under team control through the 2013 season.

- The Cubs are aggressively shopping Gorzelanny and the Tigers are dangling Armando Galarraga in a trade for him.

- The Cubs called on Greinke but they are looking for a mid-level rotation type guy according to Jon Heyman.

- The Cubs may still try to swing a deal for Chris Davis and Darren O’Day. Rangers are still awaiting word from the Cubs.

- A source of mine says don’t rule out the Cubs getting a third team involved to acquire Matt Garza. The source said a deal that would send Garza to Chicago could send Gorzelanny to Detroit and prospects from both to Tampa.

- The Giants are looking for a “6th pitcher” in their rotation, basically a swing guy. Another Source says the Cubs could send Jeff Baker and Tom Gorzelanny to the Giants for Mark DeRosa and a midlevel prospect. DeRosa would assume the usual utility role for the Cubs. Money is close to being even in the deal. He did say a trade like this would mean the trade with Texas would not take place.

- If the Cubs trade Gorzelanny and do not receive a pitcher in return; look for them to acquire at least two pitchers, either via trade, free agency, or both.

- The Cubs might be close to acquiring Brandon Webb on a one-year incentive laden deal with a mutual option for the following year according to my source.

- It is very possible the Cubs could make a deal for Garza, then trade away Gorzelanny, and then sign Brandon Webb. Not necessarily in that order. That would be a nice rotation! Zambrano, Dempster, Garza, Webb, and a battle for the 5th spot.

- Now that Cubs have acquired their power hitting lefty they will push hard to trade Fukudome so they can give the full time gig to Tyler Colvin in RF.

- The Cubs could attach Fukudome to Gorzelanny in a trade to get him out of Chicago. We saw a similar thing happen when the Cubs traded Aaron Miles and Jake Fox to the A’s.

 

[waldo7239117]

Cubs still talking to the Rangers. They have to complete a trade by Thursday. That's what I would think.

 

[Jntg4]

Link waldo?

 

[waldo7239117]

Link waldo?

Rangers send mixed signals on Young - MLB News | FOX Sports on MSN

 

[Jntg4]

They're after Young now too? Young's NTC allows him to veto the Cubs.

 

[waldo7239117]

They're after Young now too? Young's NTC allows him to veto the Cubs.

Possibly but I doubt it and right now, the Rangers have no intention to trade Young.

 

[Jntg4]

But, Davis/O'Day may still be on?

 

[waldo7239117]

But, Davis/O'Day may still be on?

Yes.

 

[Jntg4]

Using BaseballMusing's Lineup Analysis, we should get about 4.7 runs per game. That isn;t going to cut it.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Using BaseballMusing's Lineup Analysis, we should get about 4.7 runs per game. That isn;t going to cut it.

That's 761 runs... which would have had us at 9th best in the MLB last year. So yeah, that would cut it.

 

[Jntg4]

That's 761 runs... which would have had us at 9th best in the MLB last year. So yeah, that would cut it.

Oh ya, scratch that, lol. If they use the ideal lineup it is 4.83 runs/game. these are all using 2011 Bill James Projections and setting the picther's slot at a a .190 and .210 for OBA and SLG (underbid)

 

[waldo7239117]

JH should just pull off the Red Sox (Kosuke for Scutaro) and the Rangers trade. Then sign Webb and look for another starter (Garza, around that). That would be awesome!

 

[Jntg4]

Ya, that'd be a good offseason.

 

[DewsSox79]

Oh ya, scratch that, lol. If they use the ideal lineup it is 4.83 runs/game. these are all using 2011 Bill James Projections and setting the picther's slot at a a .190 and .210 for OBA and SLG (underbid)

I love projections and guessing and.....stuff. to come up with conclusions.

 

[Jntg4]

I love projections and guessing and.....stuff. to come up with conclusions.

Dews, I was just running a simulator to see what they should do. Bill James projections are usually good so I ran them in a simulator. Had nothing else to do, except stare at MLBTR and see nothing happening.