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Jerry Lucas and Larry Bird could also be considered depending on how you look at it.
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his defenses are team concepts...the fact is they have a ton of new faces this year. it takes time to build up that kind of chemistry to get used to how different guys play, what sort of tendencies they have and what not. then throw in different guys being out at different times for injuries and that takes away even more time to build that chemistry. bulls will be just fine. the reason I mentioned seeding not being that important to this team is they are a very veteran team, playing on the road doesn't not bother them. in previous years getting the #1 seed was important to those bulls teams because they were younger and less experienced and did not play as well on the road as they do now but they were dominant at home back then. bulls will finish with a seed #2 - #4 and thatll be just fine
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If a team beats you by shooting longs 2s, so be it. It's the worst shot in the game. 3s are a different story...but Thibs generally tries to chase guys off the 3pt line. The thing with stretch 4s is that if Pau ends up switched on them, that's a wide open 3 every time. Pau's just too slow to get over there.
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I'd argue the case that Noah isn't the greatest at guarding the stretch 4's either, which could be a large part of the failings of this defense. You saw it in the playoffs last year against Washington and has continued into this season. I'm not sure how much of that is based on Noah's injuries though.
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Noah was injured against the Wiz last year right? That probably had something to do with it. Not sure if Noah has faced Nene healthy recently. Nene was also just making everything he looked at in the playoffs...sometimes that is how it is.
That said, Noah is also not the best at guarding stretch 4s. He's better than Pau for sure, but our best bet against the stretch 4 has always been Gibson imo.
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even if his defense is still elite (lets not make that the sticking point) i still think his weaknesses have been really glaring this season now that we don't have a top defense
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29 coaches in the league have glaring weaknesses at the end of the season
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...which one doesn't...?
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Pop im guessing
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The one that wins...or Popovich depending on your perspective.
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not having a real grasp on offense, rotations and adjustments are pretty big weaknesses tho
and the fact thibs doesn't seem to making head way in improving these is concerning
i like thibs and all but i wouldn't be upset if they moved on
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Thibs does make adjustments, they're just not the adjustments you want.
Spo also had no real grasp of offense with that star studded lineup of his...he just got away with it because his players were better than everyone else's half the time.
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I was going to argue that Spo had a major glaring weakness with that Heat team and now that assistant coach LeBron is gone, you see it heavily in Miami.
Thibs also does make adjustments, they just don't come in the form of reduced minutes or playing a rookie who was out for 2 months that can't play defense.
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Yes you are correct, I guess I was thinking more in terms of 4's that shoot threes.
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the thing thibs does is he plays the 5 guys in the 4th quarter that played the best to get them there. he isn't afraid to hurt anyones egos(except drose). I do agree he lacks offensive creativity and that's where I wish he hired an assistant who was a young offensive innovator, but overall he is one of the top 5 coaches to have in the league IMO
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I can't speak to Lucas, but no way could Bird be considered a 4. Not with McHale next to him. Either way, my point remains; the concept of the stretch 4 isn't some new thing.
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In that case, you said Sheed was the first... I'd say Robert Horry was.
Unless like Clone said you want to consider Lucus or Bird.
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Well, he use to have a top assistant shooting coach named Ron Adams who he was very fond of...GarPax fired Adams though.
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That's been my argument all season.
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Spo was never a great coach (although i give him props on the defense...only defense ive ever seen that annoyed me just watching it) he is a championship coach because of his team
as far as thibs adjustments he never makes them on the fly.....no matter how the game is going he sticks to the script on his gameplan...its set in stone
as far as thibs adjustments he never makes them on the fly.....no matter how the game is going he sticks to the script on his gameplan...its set in stone