The Sox Stove Is Broken: Offseason Discussion

[Capt. Serious]

I love MLB Network but good lord enough with the nut sucking of the Tigers.

uke:

 

[DewsSox79]

so bourns WAR last year was a 6.0...WTF? his OPS wasnt impressive and neither was his power. his OPS+ was ehh and he gets caught stealing too much and he isnt trout in the outfield. I dont get how his WAR is a 6 and how he is going to get paid so much.

 

[Rice Cube]

so bourns WAR last year was a 6.0...WTF? his OPS wasnt impressive and neither was his power. his OPS+ was ehh and he gets caught stealing too much and he isnt trout in the outfield. I dont get how his WAR is a 6 and how he is going to get paid so much.

Which WAR you looking at?

May have to do with defense. The defensive metrics sometimes get overweighted in my opinion when calculating WAR.

 

[DewsSox79]

baseball ref

 

[Rice Cube]

It's definitely the defensive component buoying the WAR then. Half that WAR on both FanGraphs and B-Ref are from defense. He is a good defender by the eyeball test but the defensive metrics might be a bit too kind.

 

[DewsSox79]

he wont be worth the contract. id much rather have de aza at his price than fucking bourn with his stupid asking price.

 

[dabynsky]

baseball ref

It is definitely the defense component in the baseball ref version. Remember this is the one that was saying Barney was the second most valuable player in the NL for much of the season.

Bourn is a good leadoff hitter, but as soon as he loses a step or two he becomes a below average player.

 

[DewsSox79]

It is definitely the defense component in the baseball ref version. Remember this is the one that was saying Barney was the second most valuable player in the NL for much of the season.

Bourn is a good leadoff hitter, but as soon as he loses a step or two he becomes a below average player.

this is why i hate WAR. I dont see any value in him ( at what he will be paid )

 

[icehogfan08]

This is for Dewey and all of his sabermetrics.

 

[DewsSox79]

if any of you hear any rumor please post it here. thanks!

 

[nickofypres]

Yankees are shoping Cano? Maybe that is the big lefty bat Hahn is looking at. :lol:

 

[DewsSox79]

they are shopping him?

 

[nickofypres]

That is what they were saying on MLB Tonight the other day.

 

[DewsSox79]

that would be sweet. he would cost a shitload.

 

[nickofypres]

Yeah he would. Hahn is rumored to be looking for a big lefty bat. I doubt its Cano though, just speculation.

 

[DewsSox79]

everyday player?

 

[nickofypres]

That's what, I believe, Haymen said.

 

[nickofypres]

I thought I had found it, but it contradicted what I read somewhere.

I guess it wasn't Heyman, but I've read from somewhere they're looking to trade for a lefty bat.

 

[DewsSox79]

we need one now.

 

[brett05]

Cano for 2b??? So, Floyd, Beckham, and John Danks?