The Tool John Jaekel continues...

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Not sure why people expect Skille to produce on the 4th line getting around 10 min a night.



If anything hes making the most of his opportunity and carrying that line. Fine with me.
 

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The Jackass Jaeckel continues....I didnt know if I needed yet another thread on this. So he writes a whole blog again...and only mentions 2 players -



So Stan Bowman really has two courses of action. One has already been discussed at length here— and that is continually auditioning players from Rockford, and perhaps having less patience with the Jack Skilles and the Bryan Bickells.





Its EVERY fucking article....he has to bag on Jack.



WHAT A FUCKING KNOB!!!



Hey Jaeckel....



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He is a rookie/getting his first regular shot......so I'm sure like most...it takes time to "calm down" or slow the game down.





He is well into his 4th year as a pro and not a rookie by any stretch.
 

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He is well into his 4th year as a pro and not a rookie by any stretch.





So the games not different in the AHL and the NHL, huh? Same speed?



So why did it take Howard, Abdelkater - 2 high draft picks 4-5 years to get there? Fippula 4 years after being drafted to play his first full year...where he had a whopping 17pts in 73gms? I guess those guys didnt get it either and DET should have given up on them, taking so long to get there Dan Cleary was a first rounder by CHI, took 4 years to play his first full year - in EDM, took 9 years before he finally got it.



I can prob find more guys, and yes - this is his first consistant shot at the NHL.
 

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So the games not different in the AHL and the NHL, huh? Same speed?So why did it take Howard, Abdelkater - 2 high draft picks 4-5 years to get there? Fippula 4 years after being drafted to play his first full year...where he had a whopping 17pts in 73gms? I guess those guys didnt get it either and DET should have given up on them, taking so long to get there Dan Cleary was a first rounder by CHI, took 4 years to play his first full year - in EDM, took 9 years before he finally got it.



I can prob find more guys, and yes - this is his first consistant shot at the NHL.



I didn't say the game was the same in the A as it is in the NHL....it clearly isn't.



I said Skille is not a rookie (and he isn't) , and I said he is in his 4th year as a pro...(which he is)



Abdelkater spent 109 games in the AHL....Skille is at 189.....Howard is a goalie so apples to oranges here....

Filppula spent 1 season in the AHL and was a full time NHL player at the age of 22.

Skille is 23 and looks like he is now full time.



I was not comparing any players as they all have different circumstances, abilities, team depths, salary caps , cultures etc.
 

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The following post is in no way shape or form intended to be anything but a compliment.



Congrats to pmxc12873. You actually managed to get Leo to post more than a link or the usual 6 words or less sentence. That alone gets this thread in the Hockey Message Board Thread Hall of Fame.



As for Jaekel, your talents would be better served telling someone like me to **** Off than possibly add a "hit" to the site of a ****** bag that is Jaekel.



I'm sorry. Calling Jaekel a ****** bag is an insult to any player in TCD's fantasy hockey league.



Anyway. If you wonder about the brillance and insight of Jaekel, look for an archive of an article from early 2010 in which he touts Huet as the goalie to take the Hawks through the playoffs.
 

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Of course, goalies dont matter, so Howard wasnt a pro.



Filppula played pro for Jokerit Helsinki in Europe before coming to the AHL. So Skille left college 1 year earlier than Abdelkader and the cap didnt help Jack getting called up.



30 games in 3 years, to me makes him a rookie. Apparently, the minute you get paid to play, your a pro - so I guess techncally, you're right...and after the 14 NHL games he's played the last 2 years, he should be game speed - top tier player and by no means is this his first full year. Shame on him and me for thinking he's a rookie.
 

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Wow that is rough. Even I can't slam a guy that bad...or as well...which ever way one wants to look at it.



I like Jack always have but I have expected a little bit more form him to this point. You all know I am taking issues with our 3rd and 4th lines right now. I am not going to blast Skille but I do think he has the ability to do more.



But yah at 500k can't do much better. I do think he has a lot of charcater. But still..he can do better in my opinion. And that's actually a compliment it means I see the talent in him which he does have. Like Shredder said more basics and trusting your linemates and less pressing to be the hero. Good things will come. Better control will come. Agree with pmx also he shows rookie blood often. Nothing wrong with that.



He has deserved his shot and continues to deserve it. I actually wouldn't mind seeing him with some of the top guns to be honest a little more. Myabe he can learn a thing or two playing with them. Brouwer too me is losing that privilage. Lets maybe look at Skille a little more as a guy that could play on the bigger lines here and there? Or am I drunk?



Okay I have calmed down a little bit more regarding our depth guys. Took a breather and a time out.
 

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As far as the NHL goes he's a rookie.



And Stahlberg has earned his shot with Toews-Kane so I really don't see where there is a spot for Jack in the top two lines. Unless Kopecky continues on the 3rd or 4th and Jack takes that spot.



I put Skille and Stahlberg on the same plane, though I think Stahlberg got more playing time last year in the NHL than Jack has ever gotten. Stahlberg continues to improve every game including his finish. That's what Jack needs to start doing. Finish.
 

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As far as the NHL goes he's a rookie.

And Stahlberg has earned his shot with Toews-Kane so I really don't see where there is a spot for Jack in the top two lines. Unless Kopecky continues on the 3rd or 4th and Jack takes that spot.



I put Skille and Stahlberg on the same plane, though I think Stahlberg got more playing time last year in the NHL than Jack has ever gotten. Stahlberg continues to improve every game including his finish. That's what Jack needs to start doing. Finish.





too lazy to look up the rule but I don't believe he is a rookie per the NHL as he played in 6 or more games in 2 prior seasons-

07/08 - 16 games

08/09 - 8 games

09/10 - 6 games

someone will verify I got to run.



cheers!
 

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Pmx, maybe tomorrow when you wake up and rollover and see JJ, tell him you won't piss in his Cheerios today?
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too lazy to look up the rule but I don't believe he is a rookie per the NHL as he played in 6 or more games in 2 prior seasons-

07/08 - 16 games

08/09 - 8 games

09/10 - 6 games

someone will verify I got to run.



cheers!



Technically he's probably considered a pro. That said in my book he's no different than any other rookie in my opinion. NHL speaking.



32 games in the NHL does not say "NHL Professional" to me.
 

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I have to ask... is JJ pmx's new HF50?
 

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I like Skille. Always have. Guy has hustle and that's half the battle. As for Kopitar with the hawks' history of Russian players I'd think twice about taking any Russians in the draft. Not saying I wouldn't do it but it would be a long deep debate in my mind.



As for the writer, well he's an idiot. I have my man crushes and I have my player hates. I certainly don't like Turco, I get it his stats are good and all that just I don't have a logical reason but I can't wait for the Turco era to end. Again I admit to having no logical reasoning for it. I'm not a fan of Hendry, his rookie year was his best and its been downhill since. I love Stalberg, but I liked him due to being a GM for the Leafs in NHL10 and Stalberg was my go to player. Even told Dante when the hawks got him, if he was as good as his video game counter part we got a great player to replace Steeger.
 

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The thing is...I'm not even a big Skille fan - or think he's a star in the making, etc. He's a depth player, making 500K...a 3rd/4th liner. I think he hustles, plays/works hard, etc. It's not his fault where he was drafted (whats he supposed to do....turn down when he's picked?)



I've never heard bitching out of him if/when others got pulled up (his number were good enough in the AHL to get more looks, IMO), but his salary prob hurt him there. (He didnt hold out to get big money, so his salary wasnt inflated....just didnt fit with the cap). He goes, signs for bare minimum to get a shot to contribute and is working hard in the 10min a game he gets.



I do think he can score more than he has - and I'm sure he's gripping the stick tight trying to get that goal, which isnt heping. I give a rats ass that "technically he's been a pro for 4 years" .....playing 30 gms in 3 years doesnt make him a grizzled vet in my book. But if Mr. Techical wants to call him a vet, then in the first year where he got to play 16gms he had 3g - 2a - 5pts ....pace for 15g - 10a - 25pts...which wouldnt have been bad for a 19 year old kid. Cap restraints hurt his call up, and he put up consistant numbers in the AHL the next 2 years - 58gms - 20g - 45pts and 23g - 49pts - in 63gms. His goals per game the last 2 years have been the best 1 year, 2nd best the next - and last year, at 22 - even though it's been hs 3rd year "pro" in the AHL - he was still only 22 - one of the youngest on the team, all 3 years he's been there.



Haeckel is rapidly approaching HF50. Maybe IF his blogs START to WRITE mixing the CAPS in there, OR he gives SKILLE a nickname...HE WOULD suprass.
 

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The thing is...I'm not even a big Skille fan - or think he's a star in the making, etc. He's a depth player, making 500K...a 3rd/4th liner. I think he hustles, plays/works hard, etc. It's not his fault where he was drafted (whats he supposed to do....turn down when he's picked?)



I've never heard bitching out of him if/when others got pulled up (his number were good enough in the AHL to get more looks, IMO), but his salary prob hurt him there. (He didnt hold out to get big money, so his salary wasnt inflated....just didnt fit with the cap). He goes, signs for bare minimum to get a shot to contribute and is working hard in the 10min a game he gets.



I do think he can score more than he has - and I'm sure he's gripping the stick tight trying to get that goal, which isnt heping. I give a rats ass that "technically he's been a pro for 4 years" .....playing 30 gms in 3 years doesnt make him a grizzled vet in my book. But if Mr. Techical wants to call him a vet, then in the first year where he got to play 16gms he had 3g - 2a - 5pts ....pace for 15g - 10a - 25pts...which wouldnt have been bad for a 19 year old kid. Cap restraints hurt his call up, and he put up consistant numbers in the AHL the next 2 years - 58gms - 20g - 45pts and 23g - 49pts - in 63gms. His goals per game the last 2 years have been the best 1 year, 2nd best the next - and last year, at 22 - even though it's been hs 3rd year "pro" in the AHL - he was still only 22 - one of the youngest on the team, all 3 years he's been there.



JJ is rapidly approaching HF50. Maybe IF his blogs START to WRITE mixing the CAPS in there, OR he gives SKILLE a nickname...HE WOULD suprass.



Has he mentioned anything about trading Kane and wishing we had Turris?
 

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Not yet....but there's the "wish we had Kopitar instead of Skille"



But then, who knows? Do they get Kane? Do they win the cup? Kopitar took a 6.8mil dollar contract...500K more than Kane. Anze was also a minus 44 in his first 3 years, so if Skille gets bagged on his DZone play....what is his like? I know I would rather have Skille, get Kane...and win the cup - then to have drafted Kopitar and "hoped" the Euro panned out. Hasnt won LA a cup yet, and certainly disappears for stretches....for a 6.8 mil dollar man....I'd rather have Kane and Skille's contracts that equal 6.8mil.
 

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Jack Skille... more like Jack Shitte.... LOLOOLOOLLOLOZOLZOLOZOLOOLOLLLz.. but seriously. I've said it before, I don't not like the kid, I think he could do very well for another team.
 

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At the time Kopitar or any player from that route were in question.



ANYONE who says they'd have taken Kopitar is full of shit. Hind sight is a wonderful thing.



And I agree 100% on the rest. Who knows where this team would be had they drafted Kopitar verses Skille.



Kane, Toews, winning the Cup? Who knows.



Not all top 10 draft picks are rock stars so anyone that says they "expect more from a 7th round draft pick" is once again full of fucking shit.



Just because you are drafted in the top 10 does not make you an instant super star.
 

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