This Year’s Draft OT Class vs Braxton Jones

[DrGonzo]

What a lot of people don't seem to understand is the Bears either have to replace Braxton Jones through the draft or overpay him next year or overpay some other FA that is only getting to FA because he is not good enough for his current team to re-sign.

So there are no OTs with true first round grades left at 10? Okay, then when are you taking one and who?

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

What a lot of people don't seem to understand is the Bears either have to replace Braxton Jones through the draft or overpay him next year or overpay some other FA that is only getting to FA because he is not good enough for his current team to re-sign.

So there are no OTs with true first round grades left at 10? Okay, then when are you taking one and who?

You’re forgetting Kiran. They aren’t giving up on him after one game.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

Wonder what kind of contract B.Jones will be looking to get after next year?

My guess, they'll give him the equivalent of what Cole Kmet got as a TE. Around Top-7 to 10 money.

If people believe that Poles is somehow going to give up on his golden boy I would bet against it.

 

[DrGonzo]

You’re forgetting Kiran. They aren’t giving up on him after one game.

He's a project who might work out as depth but I don't know that anyone sees him as a replacement for Jones

 

[alswank87]

I’ve come full circle again. I want Josh Simmons. Then we can roll with Jones until Simmons is 100% rehabbed. Then, we make him earn the spot of protecting Caleb’s blindside. He may not make it this year if Braxton jones plays well, but we will get an idea of what Simmons can do.

Then next year, when Braxton Jones is looking for an expensive contract, we can let him go to the highest bidder, and pick up a comp pick. If Simmons recovers from his injury and plays to his potential, we have one of the best olines in the league. I might even put it on par with Philly or KC (on paper).

 

[Nelly]

I’ve come full circle again. I want Josh Simmons. Then we can roll with Jones until Simmons is 100% rehabbed. Then, we make him earn the spot of protecting Caleb’s blindside. He may not make it this year if Braxton jones plays well, but we will get an idea of what Simmons can do.

Then next year, when Braxton Jones is looking for an expensive contract, we can let him go to the highest bidder, and pick up a comp pick. If Simmons recovers from his injury and plays to his potential, we have one of the best olines in the league. I might even put it on par with Philly or KC (on paper).

We've got over a month to go so I'm sure you'll have some more circles to do.

 

[Runruffshod75]

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There's only 2 OTs worth rolling the dice on to actually stay at LEFT TACKLE in the pros, yet neither is a slam dunk for different reasons.

Obviously Josh Simmons is the first. Imo Simmons would be a top 5 pick if it weren't for his knee. Personally I would not take Simmons or any other pre injured player. However if the Bears did bite the bullet and take Simmons I would still cautiously and optimistically try to support it.

The the other is Josh Conerly Jr, who almost does everything right. His form and technique out of the pro level vertical set is damn well perfect. His footwork is perfect. His ability to read and pick up the stunt is perfect.

The problem with Conerly is he needs a year of NFL grade HGH,.er I meant lifting weights. If Conerly is still on the board atop round two I would not balk at all at taking him.

With Braxton heading into a contract year then it would make alot of sense to burn one of those top second rounders on him if he's available. He could develop behind Jones, also get some game reps in a blowout, then he can step into a starting LEFT TACKLE role in 2026 and probably do a pretty damn good job at it IF he can build up more playing strength.

 

[alswank87]

We've got over a month to go so I'm sure you'll have some more circles to do.

You’re right, we need a rb. Let’s get Jeanty.

 

[Xplosive]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1902152615317967323

Holy Will Campbell ... I was told that he's really great and the Bears must run to the podium for him

 

[Xplosive]

There's only 2 OTs worth rolling the dice on to actually stay at LEFT TACKLE in the pros, yet neither is a slam dunk for different reasons.

Obviously Josh Simmons is the first. Imo Simmons would be a top 5 pick if it weren't for his knee. Personally I would not take Simmons or any other pre injured player. However if the Bears did bite the bullet and take Simmons I would still cautiously and optimistically try to support it.

The the other is Josh Conerly Jr, who almost does everything right. His form and technique out of the pro level vertical set is damn well perfect. His footwork is perfect. His ability to read and pick up the stunt is perfect.

The problem with Conerly is he needs a year of NFL grade HGH,.er I meant lifting weights. If Conerly is still on the board atop round two I would not balk at all at taking him.

With Braxton heading into a contract year then it would make alot of sense to burn one of those top second rounders on him if he's available. He could develop behind Jones, also get some game reps in a blowout, then he can step into a starting LEFT TACKLE role in 2026 and probably do a pretty damn good job at it IF he can build up more playing strength.

Imo... Connerly sucks. Not because he got blown off his feet by Mike Green but in general watching his tape he just looks passive and doesn't do anything particularly well. I think he would be a step down from Braxton.

 

[Xplosive]

Poles would be a moron to not draft an offensive lineman AND defensive front 7 player with two out of those three first draft picks.

What he does with the third, or in what order, I don't care. Get a RB. Get a WR. Or a S.

Just keep stacking beef. We're a couple of injuries away from being in the same DAMN spot.

Dj Moore is the only proven offensive weapon that teams have to focus on. We have hope that Odunze will be the second. Swift and Kmet are slightly above average, but defenses aren't scared to play the Bears because of them.

It's moronic of fans to become obsessed with over emphasis on the trenches just because Philly won the superbowl. The Bears should consider skill players in the first two rounds just as much as worrying about building depth in case of injury.

 

[msadows]

Dj Moore is the only proven offensive weapon that teams have to focus on. We have hope that Odunze will be the second. Swift and Kmet are slightly above average, but defenses aren't scared to play the Bears because of them.

It's moronic of fans to become obsessed with over emphasis on the trenches just because Philly won the superbowl. The Bears should consider skill players in the first two rounds just as much as worrying about building depth in case of injury.

Nope they shouldnt. Sorry

 

[Xplosive]

Nope they shouldnt. Sorry

Thanks for sharing your roster building logic and brilliance

 

[msadows]

Thanks for sharing your roster building logic and brilliance

Already did, not worth discussing with you since clearly you didnt learn anything from the experiment last year

Build the lines

 

[Xplosive]

Already did, not worth discussing with you since clearly you didnt learn anything from the experiment last year

Build the lines

Yeah, that meathead mentality doesn't do anything for me either. Playmakers > roster depth.

 

[msadows]

Yeah, that meathead mentality doesn't do anything for me either. Playmakers > roster depth.

We have playmakers, you are the only clown on the board who doesnt realize it

Meatball mentality is wanting a new shiny toy every year, but some guys never learn

 

[Washington]

Dj Moore is the only proven offensive weapon that teams have to focus on. We have hope that Odunze will be the second. Swift and Kmet are slightly above average, but defenses aren't scared to play the Bears because of them.

It's moronic of fans to become obsessed with over emphasis on the trenches just because Philly won the superbowl. The Bears should consider skill players in the first two rounds just as much as worrying about building depth in case of injury.

Nope. Philly won the SB this year due to their superior talent in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Roseman gets it. He could have added more firepower to his offense when he traded up for Jalen Carter who they really didn't "need". The Bears tried the skill position approach last year getting Allen and then drafting Rome and the team was pathetic due to atrocious OL play and meh DL play. This put Poles into panic mode this year and he had no choice but to spend oodles and oodles of cash on the trenches and still lacks youth there.

 

[Xplosive]

We have playmakers, you are the only clown on the board who doesnt realize it

Meatball mentality is wanting a new shiny toy every year, but some guys never learn

The only clown is you buddy. Look around the NFL and tell me how the Bears playmakers stack up to the rest of the NFL... I'll wait.

Just because you're throat is full of Kmet juice doesn't mean he's anything more than average. There are no pro bowl or all pro level offensive playmakers on the team but all you can do is blindly exclaim "trenches" or bust.

Your lack of vision and one dimensional thinking is the epitome of a clown.

 

[bears51/40]

Do any of the top prospects have the prototypical arm length of an NFL OT?

Banks does.

 

[Xplosive]

Nope. Philly won the SB this year due to their superior talent in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Roseman gets it. He could have added more firepower to his offense when he traded up for Jalen Carter who they really didn't "need". The Bears tried the skill position approach last year getting Allen and then drafting Rome and the team was pathetic due to atrocious OL play and meh DL play. This put Poles into panic mode this year and he had no choice but to spend oodles and oodles of cash on the trenches and still lacks youth there.

Yeah, Philly got to the superbowl because of Saquon Barkley not just Carter and Sweat. Just because KC had a guard playing out of position at LT, they were able to send waves of pass rushers that the Chiefs had no answer for.

That doesn't mean ignore that it's the playmakers that got KC there 3 times in a row. Their defense is basically Chris Jones and fill in players that fit Spag's scheme. It's not their D-Line that makes their defense great. They have good players on each level.

Mahomes and Kelce make that offense run and if Kelce wasn't basically running on fumes, they still would likely beat Philly. Yes the oline is also very good but they don't have a pro bowl player at every position. They have won superbowl with mediocre right tackles multiple times.

Look at all the playoff teams not just Philly, everyone doesn't have Allstars everywhere in the trenches. Yes that helps, but you don't draft with a closed minded philosophy.

The Bears have invested in the trenches a ton this offseason, they will continue to. That doesn't mean #10 pick MUST be a OL/DL player.