This Year’s Draft OT Class vs Braxton Jones

[Washington]

Yeah, Philly got to the superbowl because of Saquon Barkley not just Carter and Sweat. Just because KC had a guard playing out of position at LT, they were able to send waves of pass rushers that the Chief had no answer for.

That doesn't mean ignore that it's the playmakers that got KC there 3 times in a row. Their defense is basically Chris Jones and fill in players that fit Spag's scheme. It's not their D-Line that makes their defense great. They have good players on each level.

Mahomes and Kelce make that offense run and if Kelce wasn't basically running on fumes, they still would likely beat Philly. Yes the oline is also very good but they don't have a pro bowl player at every position. They have won superbowl with mediocre right tackles multiple times.

Look at all the playoff teams not just Philly, everyone doesn't have Allstars everywhere in the trenches. Yes that helps, but you don't draft with a closed minded philosophy.

The Bears have invested in the trenches and ton this offseason, they will continue to. That doesn't mean #10 pick MUST be a OL/DL player.

Saquon playing behind a way better OL in Philly than in NY sure helped his season. Saquon would have sucked behind the Bears' OL last year.

Arguably, the Bears had more offensive weapons for their QB than KC last year, save for Kelce. Think Mahomes would have liked DJ, Keenen, and Rome over the hodge podge he had?

Philly won the SB with a QB who is not in KC's QB league due to superior trenches.

Poles has tried to build the team from the outside in and it has been an epic fail to date. Now he is finally reversing course. He is nowhere near done though. He better put at least 2 of his early 3 picks towards the trenches.

 

[playthrough2001]

Their defense is basically Chris Jones and fill in players that fit Spag's scheme. It's not their D-Line that makes their defense great. They have good players on each level.

That defense carried them to the championship in 2023 not their offensive playmakers.

 

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That defense carried them to the championship in 2023 not their offensive playmakers.

In the last 5 years the Chiefs have drafted a RB, WR, CB, LB all in the 1st round. Guess they no nothing about building the trenches.

 

[knoxville7]

There's only 2 OTs worth rolling the dice on to actually stay at LEFT TACKLE in the pros, yet neither is a slam dunk for different reasons.

Obviously Josh Simmons is the first. Imo Simmons would be a top 5 pick if it weren't for his knee. Personally I would not take Simmons or any other pre injured player. However if the Bears did bite the bullet and take Simmons I would still cautiously and optimistically try to support it.

The the other is Josh Conerly Jr, who almost does everything right. His form and technique out of the pro level vertical set is damn well perfect. His footwork is perfect. His ability to read and pick up the stunt is perfect.

The problem with Conerly is he needs a year of NFL grade HGH,.er I meant lifting weights. If Conerly is still on the board atop round two I would not balk at all at taking him.

With Braxton heading into a contract year then it would make alot of sense to burn one of those top second rounders on him if he's available. He could develop behind Jones, also get some game reps in a blowout, then he can step into a starting LEFT TACKLE role in 2026 and probably do a pretty damn good job at it IF he can build up more playing strength.

hmmm...looks like those LSU tackles arent so great after all(Campbell and Emory). Kinda like i have been saying for months now, wild!

 

[PeppersSweater]

Banks does.

33 1/2”

 

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Saquon playing behind a way better OL in Philly than in NY sure helped his season. Saquon would have sucked behind the Bears' OL last year.

Arguably, the Bears had more offensive weapons for their QB than KC last year, save for Kelce. Think Mahomes would have liked DJ, Keenen, and Rome over the hodge podge he had?

Philly won the SB with a QB who is not in KC's QB league due to superior trenches.

Poles has tried to build the team from the outside in and it has been an epic fail to date. Now he is finally reversing course. He is nowhere near done though. He better put at least 2 of his early 3 picks towards the trenches.

Saquon had 2028 yards from scrimmage as a rookie and had 2283 last season, so people should really stop acting like he was only good because of Philly's oline.

Hurts is very accurate, doesn't turnover the ball much, and he's the reason the tush push works on top of being a dual threat to run at anytime. He is underrated but not many are on Mahomes level.

What Poles has done in the past is build a team that has underachieved because of coaching. The main issue was Oline and stopping the run. He isnt done but that doesn't mean he MUST use #10 on the trenches.

 

[playthrough2001]

In the last 5 years the Chiefs have drafted a RB, WR, CB, LB all in the 1st round. Guess they no nothing about building the trenches.

That RB was a complete bust. That WR is injured and is probably facing a massive suspension once he’s cleared to play.

 

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That RB was a complete bust. That WR is injured and is probably facing a massive suspension once he’s cleared to play.

It's more about this mantra that the Bears are morons if they dont select OL/DL at #10 not hindsight about if the players were successful. I'm pretty sure we can make a long list of failed 1st round picks that were OL/DL players.

 

[pseudonym]

It's more about this mantra that the Bears are morons if they dont select OL/DL at #10 not hindsight about if the players were successful. I'm pretty sure we can make a long list of failed 1st round picks that were OL/DL players.

Honestly, let's trust Ben. He's done a great job so far. They have their players and their rankings. If it ends up being Jeanty or Warren at #10 so be it. IF they are ranked 92/100 (or whatever) and are far and away the highest players on their boards, take them or trade back and get more picks. We need blue chip players. Based on recent articles I've read, Kmet is a hybrid TE. Yes, Kmet is good, but he is not a pass-catching TE only. I'd prefer Jeanty over Warren, but both are the best player at their respective positions.

If this is their board

Jeanty 92/100
Warren 91/100
Banks 88/100

You take Jeanty

If this is the board

Membou 94/100
Banks 93/100
Jeanty 92/100
Warren 91/100

You take Membou or Banks.

This is where it gets weird:

Membou 92/100
Banks 92/100
Jeanty 92/100
Warren 92/100

Then I think it comes down to impact, need at position, and scarcity of position depth.

 

[Xplosive]

Honestly, let's trust Ben. He's done a great job so far. They have their players and their rankings. If it ends up being Jeanty or Warren at #10 so be it. IF they are ranked 92/100 (or whatever) and are far and away the highest players on their boards, take them or trade back and get more picks. We need blue chip players. Based on recent articles I've read, Kmet is a hybrid TE. Yes, Kmet is good, but he is not a pass-catching TE only. I'd prefer Jeanty over Warren, but both are the best player at their respective positions.

If this is their board

Jeanty 92/100
Warren 91/100
Banks 88/100

You take Jeanty

If this is the board

Membou 94/100
Banks 93/100
Jeanty 92/100
Warren 91/100

You take Membou or Banks.

This is where it gets weird:

Membou 92/100
Banks 92/100
Jeanty 92/100
Warren 92/100

Then I think it comes down to impact, need at position, and scarcity of position depth.

Imo you only take Warren if his versatility will be a major focal point of the offense. If they want a pass catcher for the TE position then it doesn't make sense to take him in a deep TE draft.

B. Johnson is the perfect HC to actually plan to utilize Warren as a triple threat weapon: Passing/Catching/Running similar to how Sean Payton used Taysom Hill.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1747980023074628079

Warren is much bigger and better than Taysom Hill and could be the X-factor this offense needs to win.

 

[pseudonym]

Imo you only take Warren if his versatility will be a major focal point of the offense. If they want a pass catcher for the TE position then it doesn't make sense to take him in a deep TE draft.

B. Johnson is the perfect HC to actually plan to utilize Warren as a triple threat weapon: Passing/Catching/Running similar to how Sean Payton used Taysom Hill.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1747980023074628079

Warren is much bigger and better than Taysom Hill and could be the X-factor this offense needs to win.

If they draft Warren, he'll slot in immediate at the third target behind DJM and Odunze IMO, ahead of Kmet. I do like Ferguson a lot, too, he has a really nice/high RAS at the combine, 9.57 I believe. Ferg in the 2nd/3rd feels like an even match with Kmet for targets, whoever we draft at #10 should start right away—Membo over Braxton, Warren over Kmet, Jeanty over Swift, Mykel over Odey, etc.

 

[SugarWalls]

In the last 5 years the Chiefs have drafted a RB, WR, CB, LB all in the 1st round. Guess they no nothing about building the trenches.

Uhhhh you might want to re-check that bud and maybe consider other rounds?

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2023 they drafted a DE in round 1.

2022 they drafted a CB and with pick 30 they drafted a DE.

Lmao

 

[Runruffshod75]

Yeah, Philly got to the superbowl because of Saquon Barkley not just Carter and Sweat. Just because KC had a guard playing out of position at LT, they were able to send waves of pass rushers that the Chiefs had no answer for.

That doesn't mean ignore that it's the playmakers that got KC there 3 times in a row. Their defense is basically Chris Jones and fill in players that fit Spag's scheme. It's not their D-Line that makes their defense great. They have good players on each level.

Mahomes and Kelce make that offense run and if Kelce wasn't basically running on fumes, they still would likely beat Philly. Yes the oline is also very good but they don't have a pro bowl player at every position. They have won superbowl with mediocre right tackles multiple times.

Look at all the playoff teams not just Philly, everyone doesn't have Allstars everywhere in the trenches. Yes that helps, but you don't draft with a closed minded philosophy.

The Bears have invested in the trenches a ton this offseason, they will continue to. That doesn't mean #10 pick MUST be a OL/DL player.

Poles got 2 good additions on the offense and the two defensive signings are crackpot wannabe moneyball garbage.

This GM said he is going to build through the draft and he's going to build in the trenches

In 2 drafts with a first round pick Ryan Poles hasn't taken even one DT in the first round and overall the franchise hasn't done so for the last 20 years and it shows.

The Bears should have at least one first round pick in their DT rotation or at least someone who plays like one, and the Bears don't

Now here we go on draft numbers 3 with a first rounder and this fanbase can pretend that they haven't already seen this story through different names and different faces at the GM position for the better part of the last 35 years.

Drafting a DT may not get you the clicks on social media, and hype from the media, and it may not even look like a good DT does much, but they do if you have one worth talking about, and we don't.

Jarrett is going to be sh!ts and giggles for the first 5-6 weeks and the wear and tear will catch to that 32 year old body at a.position with an average of a 2 year shelf life.

Ryan Poles is going pass on the top DTs again, the fanbase will get what they want with the glamor pick, and at the end of the season will get what we always get because we don't have a true difference maker at the heart of this defense.

 

[playthrough2001]

Poles got 2 good additions on the offense and the two defensive signings are crackpot wannabe moneyball garbage.

This GM said he is going to build through the draft and he's going to build in the trenches

In 2 drafts with a first round pick Ryan Poles hasn't taken even one DT in the first round and overall the franchise hasn't done so for the last 20 years and it shows.

The Bears should have at least one first round pick in their DT rotation or at least someone who plays like one, and the Bears don't

Now here we go on draft numbers 3 with a first rounder and this fanbase can pretend that they haven't already seen this story through different names and different faces at the GM position for the better part of the last 35 years.

Drafting a DT may not get you the clicks on social media, and hype from the media, and it may not even look like a good DT does much, but they do if you have one worth talking about, and we don't.

Jarrett is going to be sh!ts and giggles for the first 5-6 weeks and the wear and tear will catch to that 32 year old body at a.position with an average of a 2 year shelf life.

Ryan Poles is going pass on the top DTs again, the fanbase will get what they want with the glamor pick, and at the end of the season will get what we always get because we don't have a true difference maker at the heart of this defense.

So you think Poles locked Ian, Allen, and Johnson out of his office and added all of those players without their input? He just decided “Ben you get Thuney, Jackson, Dalman and Oz. “ “Dennis, you get Grady and Dayo.”

 

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Uhhhh you might want to re-check that bud and maybe consider other rounds?

2023 they drafted a DE in round 1.

2022 they drafted a CB and with pick 30 they drafted a DE.

Lmao

UHHH.... have you been drinking?

In the last 5 years the Chiefs have drafted a RB, WR, CB, LB all in the 1st round

I did not say that they haven't drafted any DL/OL in the last 5 years... That's why there are only FOUR positions listed for the last FIVE years. You are correct however that they ALSO drafted a DE in 2023 and in 2022. They also drafted a WR in round 1 of 2019.

The point was never that they didn't draft any OL/DL in the 1st... The point was that they also drafted OTHER POSITIONS in the 1st. So this CCS mantra that the Bears should ONLY draft OL/DL... doesn't hold water based on the actions of a team that nearly won 3 Superbowls in a row.

 

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Poles got 2 good additions on the offense and the two defensive signings are crackpot wannabe moneyball garbage.

You are literally the only person I've seen anywhere have this take. I would like to know if you can find anyone anywhere that agrees with this position because it's pretty over the top imo.

With that said, you are also the #1 Walter Nolen fan I have seen anywhere as well. Hey that's ok, maybe you are right but I haven't seen anyone anywhere having him listed in the top 10 of this draft. In fact basically everyone has him late first or early second. That doesn't mean everyone is right and you're wrong however.

With that said, you can't just ignore that the Bears have been working on developing Gervon Dexter and just signed Grady Jarrett to a 3Y $42M deal. I get that you don't like it, but how can you keep expecting them to take another 3 technique with the #10 pick under these circumstances?

Dayo is definitely the most questionable pickup in everyone's mind but like it or not they invested in him and they also gave up a 4th last year to get Booker who they are still trying to develop. Personally I believe that Mykel Williams is the only DL that I would take at #10 (Carter excluded). If he is sitting there then yes I wouldn't be shocked to see Poles scrap the Dayo plan. I doubt he does it for any DT or any other edge.

 

[SugarWalls]

UHHH.... have you been drinking?



I did not say that they haven't drafted any DL/OL in the last 5 years... That's why there are only FOUR positions listed for the last FIVE years. You are correct however that they ALSO drafted a DE in 2023 and in 2022. They also drafted a WR in round 1 of 2019.

The point was never that they didn't draft any OL/DL in the 1st... The point was that they also drafted OTHER POSITIONS in the 1st. So this CCS mantra that the Bears should ONLY draft OL/DL... doesn't hold water based on the actions of a team that nearly won 3 Superbowls in a row.

This is the most idiotic line of thinking Idk why but I'll attempt to explain to you. I realize you are reetarded and also didn't see the writing on the wall of Fields being traded, but I'll try.

The chiefs have had an ELITE OL since trey Smith and creed humphrey hit in 2021, and they had Thuney. They have not really needed to address interior OL since these acquisitions.

Good tackles are typically drafted in the early to mid 1st round, turns out the chiefs are always drafting in the late 1st round, which doesn't put them in position to really grab a sure fire hit in round 1 at tackle. They are drafting the best player at the position they can in round 1. Obviously if you are the chiefs, you wouldn't take interior OL late round 1 when you have 3 pro bowlers / all pros, and they haven't taken a tackle because the prospects aren't there. They have continued to use some picks on the interior OL as depth including last year a 2nd rounder,

This is completely different when looking at what would be available for the Bears at pick 10, and who they have on the roster.

Also you should note, the 1 time they used their 1st on an RB it was a complete fckn failure, and their 5th round pick Pacheco was immediately better.

So cool logic of "wow look what the chiefs do" but then advocating for moronic round 1 picks that the chiefs also do not do.

 

[bears51/40]

With the money spent this offseason on the 3 o line starters and having a top 10 pick from 2 years ago as a 4th starter you would have to think Jones is the weak link of the 5. He does not look worthy of big money to me when his contract is up, I would have zero issues taking a left tackle at 10 if deemed worthy or the pick. My guess is they will go d line.

DL or RB.

 

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This is the most idiotic line of thinking Idk why but I'll attempt to explain to you. I realize you are reetarded and also didn't see the writing on the wall of Fields being traded, but I'll try.

The chiefs have had an ELITE OL since trey Smith and creed humphrey hit in 2021, and they had Thuney. They have not really needed to address interior OL since these acquisitions.

Good tackles are typically drafted in the early to mid 1st round, turns out the chiefs are always drafting in the late 1st round, which doesn't put them in position to really grab a sure fire hit in round 1 at tackle. They are drafting the best player at the position they can in round 1. Obviously if you are the chiefs, you wouldn't take interior OL late round 1 when you have 3 pro bowlers / all pros, and they haven't taken a tackle because the prospects aren't there. They have continued to use some picks on the interior OL as depth including last year a 2nd rounder,

This is completely different when looking at what would be available for the Bears at pick 10, and who they have on the roster.

Also you should note, the 1 time they used their 1st on an RB it was a complete fckn failure, and their 5th round pick Pacheco was immediately better.

So cool logic of "wow look what the chiefs do" but then advocating for moronic round 1 picks that the chiefs also do not do.

Being an asshole doesn't make you any smarter. You just pointed out that the Chiefs hit on a two OG's and a Center so therefore they didn't need to draft any OL until later in the draft. Again are drunk? The Bears just added two OG and a Center yet you are claiming that taking an OL in the 1st is an absolute necessity.

Last season knowing they were in need of an OT, the Chiefs took a WR in round 1 and waited for a OT in the second. 2023 they still needed an OT and they waited until the 3rd round, and yet again took a WR a round earlier.

Do you think the Chiefs are the only team that will pass up OL/DL for skill position players? If you are too stupid to comprehend that professional teams don't just continue to draft more "trenches" until every single one is a 1st rounder. What are you even debating anyway, that #10 should be who exactly??

Better yet don't bother, continue to rub that "Against the Haul" MVP trophy you are seemingly so proud of in 2025.

 

[SugarWalls]

Being an asshole doesn't make you any smarter. You just pointed out that the Chiefs hit on a two OG's and a Center so therefore they didn't need to draft any OL until later in the draft. Again are drunk? The Bears just added two OG and a Center yet you are claiming that taking an OL in the 1st is an absolute necessity.

Last season knowing they were in need of an OT, the Chiefs took a WR in round 1 and waited for a OT in the second. 2023 they still needed an OT and they waited until the 3rd round, and yet again took a WR a round earlier.

Do you think the Chiefs are the only team that will pass up OL/DL for skill position players? If you are too stupid to comprehend that professional teams don't just continue to draft more "trenches" until every single one is a 1st rounder. What are you even debating anyway, that #10 should be who exactly??

Better yet don't bother, continue to rub that "Against the Haul" MVP trophy you are seemingly so proud of in 2025.

Definitely not saying they must draft an OL, I’m justifying why it would be okay if they did, specifically if the right tackle prospect is there.

Personally, I think the move is DL.

The only position I absolutely do not want to see in round 1 is TE