Thomas Brown for Head Coach

[Rise]

Would that be bad?

He’s a failure as a head coach but as an OC he’s very good and you wouldn’t have to worry about him being poached every year.

Vrabel and McDaniels intrigues me

Yeah I mean Belichick/Vrabel + McDaniels would have me ecstatic. On top of that Brady seems to be a mentor to Caleb I mean this would be the most accomplished coaches we have ever had. I don’t see how anyone would not be over the moon excited with that combo.

 

[remydat]

where did i bring up calling plays as a prerequisite to be a HC??

Your resposne started with "and he is still mediocre at best." So that suggests you are continuing my sentence so it would read

"What is funny is Taylor had no play calling experience in the NFL before the Bengals job and he is mediocre at best?"

So in response I gave an example of a coach who isn't mediocre ie Reid as you seemed to be tying his mediocrity to my statement that he had no playcalling experience.

 

[remydat]

Dude just has an "aura" like Caleb said.

 

[remydat]

One benefit the schedule provides is the fact we hadnt played the division yet. So Brown will see 3 teams a 2nd time and will be interesting to see how Brown adjusts to those teams maybe figuring out his tendencies from the 1st game they played and film review.

 

[gobullschi]

I think Thomas Brown is in the same tier2 as Coen Glenn, and Brady. He is only in this tier for the Bears and not other teams because he has 8 games of solid work (if it goes south he wouldn’t be considered) with Caleb already. Combine that with at least what appears to be natural leadership/alpha qualities I would not hate this hire considering this scenario.

The top tier are Johnson, Vrabel, and Belichick in my opinion. The #1 guy to me is Johnson, he is why the Lions are so good, not the screaming meatball.

You’re giving way too much credit to Johnson. I don’t understand why people are so sold on an unproven HC. He’s the benefactor of an offense that’s LOADED with talent at every position along with the best offensive line in football.

 

[Rise]

You’re giving way too much credit to Johnson. I don’t understand why people are so sold on an unproven HC. He’s the benefactor of an offense that’s LOADED with talent at every position along with the best offensive line in football.

It’s his versatility with the way he calls games and the consistency of his success. Lots of NFL teams are loaded with talent, not many coaches know how to use that talent in the specific way that exposes the opponent as consistently as he does.

Now he could be a flop like any first time coach but I would be shocked if that happened.

 

[bamainatlanta]

and hes still mediocre at best. imagine if he didnt have generational joe burrow and jamar chase there? how bad would they be then?

Yeah I don’t want Taylor at all. And Bill will be in perpetual personnel battles with the front office. Bill can still coach; he’s just awful with personnel decisions now.

 

[gobullschi]

It’s his versatility with the way he calls games and the consistency of his success. Lots of NFL teams are loaded with talent, not many coaches know how to use that talent in the specific way that exposes the opponent as consistently as he does.

Now he could be a flop like any first time coach but I would be shocked if that happened.

Which teams have comparable offensive talent?

 

[bufordht]

Who else thinks they'll promote Brown to HC and promote Chris Morgan to OC. That sounds like the Bears doesn't it?

 

[Canth]

Listening to the 85 podcast with Kmet and I just heard yet another pretty damning inadvertent statement about Waldron.

Hoge asked Kmet if Brown is bringing in new plays, new flavor to the offense or is he using plays that have been in the playbook and just not used. Kmet talked about how it is some new, but made a point to highlight that Brown has included the other coaches on offense and it has been collaborative and neat to see. Wow. Just..wow. The implications of that is that Waldron was not particularly collaborative or involving the other coaches on offense.

I think that also goes with a report a while back now that Waldron did not really have a team meeting for the entire offense. They just had position group meetings, but he did not bring them altogether as a group.

Man, the more you hear about Waldron, the more messed up it gets.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Listening to the 85 podcast with Kmet and I just heard yet another pretty damning inadvertent statement about Waldron.

Hoge asked Kmet if Brown is bringing in new plays, new flavor to the offense or is he using plays that have been in the playbook and just not used. Kmet talked about how it is some new, but made a point to highlight that Brown has included the other coaches on offense and it has been collaborative and neat to see. Wow. Just..wow. The implications of that is that Waldron was not particularly collaborative or involving the other coaches on offense.

I think that also goes with a report a while back now that Waldron did not really have a team meeting for the entire offense. They just had position group meetings, but he did not bring them altogether as a group.

Man, the more you hear about Waldron, the more messed up it gets.

Everett is rarely utilized anymore, remember how much he liked to use him?

 

[DefNextYear]

You’re giving way too much credit to Johnson. I don’t understand why people are so sold on an unproven HC. He’s the benefactor of an offense that’s LOADED with talent at every position along with the best offensive line in football.

While I’ve been with you, especially last year, his dominance this year says something. As for the offense, it can be a bit of the chicken of the egg kinda deal. Goff has made some major improvements and ASB was far from a sure thing.

That said, it’s far from a guarantee that means he’ll be a great HC… regardless how responsible he is for the offensive success.