Thomas Brown for Head Coach

[Bearly]

I mean the dude is well respected by players and has had HC interviews before. Of course a long way to go and predicated in Caleb looking good in his offense against a tough schedule. 1 game down.

All true and I may agree after more games. I need to see how D's respond once they think they see tendencies.

 

[Bearly]

Making Brown HC is typical Bears move.
So is hiring a new coach with the requirement that Brown be kept as OC

Wouldn't matter. If Brown is that good, he'd be a HC somewhere sooner than later anyway.

 

[remydat]

CW said he never even talked to TB until after Waldron was fired. WTF.

I hadn't seen that. Again, wow and yeah WTF. So, the guy that was your "passing game coordinator" never really talked to the QB. What the hell were they doing in that building?

I vaguely recall now mention that Waldron was one of the few of the OC candidates that was willing to roll with either Fields or a new QB (Williams). Most of the rest were mainly wanting to work with the shiny new QB (Williams). If that ended up being a large deciding factor in the OC decision, then my god. How out of touch with reality can you be?

Not that unusual. The PGC really is a resource to the OC to help design the passing plays. The main people talking to the QB would be the HC, OC and the QB coach Joseph. Any more than that and you run the risk of too many chefs in the kitchen.

 

[remydat]

Well, you’re wrong. I was describing his abilities as a HC overall. But hey, thanks for playing

Then you probably should not have started with "and" as it is a conjunction and thus the expectation is that it is connecting the subsequent statement with the statement that came before it ie my post.

 

[Canth]

Not that unusual. The PGC really is a resource to the OC to help design the passing plays. The main people talking to the QB would be the HC, OC and the QB coach Joseph. Any more than that and you run the risk of too many chefs in the kitchen.

I guess. Still seems odd to me that your key person for designing passing plays and concepts doesn't interface with your QB, ie...the guy that will be carrying out said designs.

I get the idea of too many voices if you are talking about actual coaching points of techniques and such. You don't want conflicting coaching/advice.

But, I would think you would want to know what the QB's preferences are and his feedback/questions as you are designing plays for him to execute.

 

[remydat]

I guess. Still seems odd to me that your key person for designing passing plays and concepts doesn't interface with your QB, ie...the guy that will be carrying out said designs.

I get the idea of too many voices if you are talking about actual coaching points of techniques and such. You don't want conflicting coaching/advice.

But, I would think you would want to know what the QB's preferences are and his feedback/questions as you are designing plays for him to execute.

Why wouldnt the OC and QB coach not be able to explain preferences and the like to the PGC? Or for that to be discussed when they review the game film?

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Not that unusual. The PGC really is a resource to the OC to help design the passing plays. The main people talking to the QB would be the HC, OC and the QB coach Joseph. Any more than that and you run the risk of too many chefs in the kitchen.

They literally have the largest coaching staff ever assembled, it’s stupid.

 

[Canth]

Why wouldnt the OC and QB coach not be able to explain preferences and the like to the PGC? Or for that to be discussed when they review the game film?

For clarity, which review of game film? Just coaches or coaches and players, or what were you thinking?

 

[Canth]

Why wouldnt the OC and QB coach not be able to explain preferences and the like to the PGC? Or for that to be discussed when they review the game film?

Actually, regardless of what sort of film review session you are referring to, I will say:

I think it's always better to get 1st hand info when possible. So, imo, it would be better for the PGC to hear directly from the QB what he likes and doesn't like.

Could the OC and the QBC explain preferences? Sure, but it will be an interpretation of what they thought they heard or of what they wanted to hear. Often, that means context and nuance will be lost in the interpretation. I think that is just a part of human nature, not necessarily anything deliberate.

 

[truthbedamned]

Would that be bad?

He’s a failure as a head coach but as an OC he’s very good and you wouldn’t have to worry about him being poached every year.

Vrabel and McDaniels intrigues me

Horrible. More than horrible. BB is a fucking failure without Tom Brady. McDaniels is an accident waiting to happen. I can't believe ANYONE would want this duo. Talk about a fucking disaster.

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

Horrible. More than horrible. BB is a fucking failure without Tom Brady. McDaniels is an accident waiting to happen. I can't believe ANYONE would want this duo. Talk about a fucking disaster.

Every coach is a failure without any good players. Coaching alone doesn’t cut it.

 

[truthbedamned]

Every coach is a failure without any good players. Coaching alone doesn’t cut it.

So the Bears should hire a coach who did nothing without a HOF QB and an OC that was the postcard for failure as well as just an overall douchebag.

Thanks. I would rather have:
Trestman
Eberflus
Nagy
Fox

Than either of these two

 

[remydat]

They literally have the largest coaching staff ever assembled, it’s stupid.

Plenty of teams have RGC and PGC coordinators. Silly thing to complain about.

 

[remydat]

For clarity, which review of game film? Just coaches or coaches and players, or what were you thinking?

Actually, regardless of what sort of film review session you are referring to, I will say:

I think it's always better to get 1st hand info when possible. So, imo, it would be better for the PGC to hear directly from the QB what he likes and doesn't like.

Could the OC and the QBC explain preferences? Sure, but it will be an interpretation of what they thought they heard or of what they wanted to hear. Often, that means context and nuance will be lost in the interpretation. I think that is just a part of human nature, not necessarily anything deliberate.

Both. Think Brown said he was in team meetings with Caleb eg QB meetings bit that they didnt necessarily talk one on one. I presume he woukd also meet with Waldron and Jospeh separately.

 

[remydat]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856344945071620465

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

So the Bears should hire a coach who did nothing without a HOF QB and an OC that was the postcard for failure as well as just an overall douchebag.

Thanks. I would rather have:
Trestman
Eberflus
Nagy
Fox

Than either of these two

No stupid, they shouldn’t. **** Belichick and McDaniels ***** ass.

Still, coaches ain’t shit without players.

 

[Canth]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856344945071620465

Man, that video really stands out. I hope like hell they give him a real interview for HC.

He checks a lot boxes for me with the breadth of his background. I forgot he was an asst HC with McVay. That has to mean something.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Horrible. More than horrible. BB is a fucking failure without Tom Brady. McDaniels is an accident waiting to happen. I can't believe ANYONE would want this duo. Talk about a fucking disaster.

Now I REALLY like it.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

I would also add that it's really weird to suggest that DJ Moore is still being misused when all the actual football people are saying the exact opposite. And when DJ just had improved production these past 2 weeks.

Getting the ball to Moore with space for him to do his thing is one of the better ways to use him.

The problem here is you have a lot of people confusing the result with the actual usage.

Right now on that little screen pass to DJ Moore is really effective but it's not going to stay that way. The Bears use that screen path at least three to four times a game ever since Brown took over.

Eventually good defense coordinators going to sniff that out and plan for it

 

[remydat]

The problem here is you have a lot of people confusing the result with the actual usage.

Right now on that little screen pass to DJ Moore is really effective but it's not going to stay that way. The Bears use that screen path at least three to four times a game ever since Brown took over.

Eventually good defense coordinators going to sniff that out and plan for it.

And if Thomas Brown is any good he will have a counter to which we have already see as they have plays where they fake the screen and Moore runs a go. Or they fact it and then throw to the opposite side. Or they fake it and throw down the middle. Or they fake it and run.

The trick is knowing which to do in which situation and we will have to see how Brown responds when that day comes.