Thomas Brown for Head Coach

[remydat]

Cool cool cool. If only my argument had anything to do with fumbles this might actually be a sold argument from you. But unfortunately for you your counter argument about fumbles is pretty stupid.

And pretty untrustworthy anyway.

Besides I never said the Moore tipped pass was a TWP. That's just you lying. I said it was not "knocked away" something you lied about when saying contested balls that are "knocked away" are not a TWP. Complete lie from you.

Now is the Moore tipped ball a TWP? Maybe, the ball was thrown behind Moore so it's certainly possible. But there is at least 4 other plays that fit the TWP perfectly according to the video. So that's grounds for ignoring the whole PFF as well anyway.

Bottom line you using a stat that has fumbles in it to argue against just passing is just as dumb as you can get regardless of the questionable methodology of what a TWP is.

Now are you going to switch back to the "never said Brown was responsible for improving CW 0 INT" vortex? Or are you sticking with this loser one for a while before jumping back?

You tried to adjust for fumbles jackass on the basis that all fumbles are TWPs so it was your argument and you were 100% wrong.

I don't need those extra lions game ones. I'm using your numbers. And yes all fumbles regardless on who recovers it is a TWP per PFF

So yes your argument did have to do with fumbles. It is right there for all to see.

And yes you did say Moore's pass was a TWP as when I said it wasnt you said the below.

ball was off target and thrown behind Moore

edit and PFF is a joke, they suck at math and are not applying the definitions they came up with for a TWP

You cant even keep track of your own stupid arguments. You were arguing it was a TWP and PFF wasnt applying the definitions they came up with. Except of course your dumbass didnt read your own source.

Not all INT-opportunities or fumbles are turnover-worthy

We all know that not every interception is the quarterback’s fault, but even in the case of turnover-worthy plays, there may be interceptions that are considered downgrades for the quarterback, yet not turnover-worthy. Examples of plays in which the quarterback assumes some fault, yet they are still considered “unlucky” to have been intercepted, include passes with poor ball location that get deflected up in the air or overthrows that end up as interceptions on plays where they’d normally fall incomplete.

There is no maybe here. The above makes it clear that a ball with poor location that hits the WR in both hands and is deflected in the air is not a TWP. The QB gets a poor grade for the ball location but it is still not a TWP. So there is no scenario where that Moore play is a TWP.

And no there arent 4 other plays that fit the PFF video. Post these 4 other plays and I will explain how stupid you are some more. You have already proven and admitted youbwere wrong about what a TWP is so you have zero credibility.

 

[dbldrew]

You tried to adjust for fumbles jackass on the basis that all fumbles are TWPs so it was your argument and you were 100% wrong.

So yes your argument did have to do with fumbles. It is right there for all to see.

And yes you did say Moore's pass was a TWP as when I said it wasnt you said the below.

You cant even keep track of your own stupid arguments. You were arguing it was a TWP and PFF wasnt applying the definitions they came up with. Except of course your dumbass didnt read your own source.

Not all INT-opportunities or fumbles are turnover-worthy

We all know that not every interception is the quarterback’s fault, but even in the case of turnover-worthy plays, there may be interceptions that are considered downgrades for the quarterback, yet not turnover-worthy. Examples of plays in which the quarterback assumes some fault, yet they are still considered “unlucky” to have been intercepted, include passes with poor ball location that get deflected up in the air or overthrows that end up as interceptions on plays where they’d normally fall incomplete.

There is no maybe here. The above makes it clear that a ball with poor location that hits the WR in both hands and is deflected in the air is not a TWP. The QB gets a poor grade for the ball location but it is still not a TWP. So there is no scenario where that Moore play is a TWP.

And no there arent 4 other plays that fit the PFF video. Post these 4 other plays and I will explain how stupid you are some more. You have already proven and admitted youbwere wrong about what a TWP is so you have zero credibility.

I didn't try to adjust for fumbles idiot I tried to remove them because fumbles have nothing to do with my point.


I said The ball is "thrown" to the wrong team.. that's not a fumble idiot. My God are you dumb. Lol

Me - the ball is being thrown the the wrong team

You - no it's not because this stat about fumbles said so .

Me - don't care about fumbles

You - but the stat also has some balls thrown to the wrong team.. but ignores most of them..

Me - great argument idiot..

You - continues to vortex for 20 pages because you made a stupid counter argument

 

[remydat]

I didn't try to adjust for fumbles idiot I tried to remove them because fumbles have nothing to do with my point.


I said The ball is "thrown" to the wrong team.. that's not a fumble idiot. My God are you dumb. Lol

Me - the ball is being thrown the the wrong team

You - no it's not because this stat about fumbles said so .

Me - don't care about fumbles

You - but the stat also has some balls thrown to the wrong team.. but ignores most of them..

Me - great argument idiot..

You - continues to vortex for 20 pages because you made a stupid counter argument

Removing them is an adjustment stupid. You assumed all fumbles were in the TWP numbers and you were 100% wrong about that. I told your dumbass to stop making adjustments to PFF data you dont understand.

I used the data I have available because it is better than your dumbass inaccurate opinions where you post pics that you admit arent actually of TWPs. You included in those photo examples plays where the WR is clearly in better position, balls that hit the WR clearly in the hands, balls clearly knocked away by the WR, plays where the ball is clearly too high to be caught and plays where it is obvious a collision and momentum meant the DB was never going to be able to catch the ball inbounds.

Your whole premise here was PFF was wrong go have only one TWP in the Lions game and yet pretty much all of your pics turned out to be wrong. You have not provided a single pic that unequivocally shows a TWP as PFF defined it.

So again which of those 7 bogus pics are you claiming show a clear TWP?

 

[dbldrew]

Removing them is an adjustment stupid. You assumed all fumbles were in the TWP numbers and you were 100% wrong about that. I told your dumbass to stop making adjustments to PFF data you dont understand.

I used the data I have available because it is better than your dumbass inaccurate opinions where you post pics that you admit arent actually of TWPs. You included in those photo examples plays where the WR is clearly in better position, balls that hit the WR clearly in the hands, balls clearly knocked away by the WR, plays where the ball is clearly too high to be caught and plays where it is obvious a collision and momentum meant the DB was never going to be able to catch the ball inbounds.

Your whole premise here was PFF was wrong go have only one TWP in the Lions game and yet pretty much all of your pics turned out to be wrong. You have not provided a single pic that unequivocally shows a TWP as PFF defined it.

So again which of those 7 bogus pics are you claiming show a clear TWP?

Yes I assumed all fumbles where included and acknowledged my error a few days ago but that error didnt change anything.

You on the other hand have been completely wrong about what TWP is as well, falsely calming that a "contested ball" doest count, thats a lie that you made up.. I admit my mistake while you continue to lie and vortex

You used the data that includes fumbles and just a small fraction of the balls thrown to the wrong team to make a counter argument against what I said is not better. Its idiotic, your counter argument is stupid, it proves nothing.. you look like a complete moron for using that as an argument in the first place. This is the equivalate of someone saying Fields is a bad passer, and you come back with his combined yards to argue what a great passer he is.. Combined yards has rushing, so thats a stupid stat to use in a debate just about passing..

TWP has fumbles, thats a stupid stat to use in a debate just on passing..

The fact of the matter is that even though your argument is stupid to make, it still proves me correct, thats how stupid you are.

You make a dumb counterargument that still proves me correct. The numbers still do not favor you at all.. so 15+ pages of you vortexing about a completely stupid point.. that proves me correct..

Your vortex sure does make you look stupid

 

[Toast88]

BearssSSSSSSSS

 

[remydat]

Yes I assumed all fumbles where included and acknowledged my error a few days ago but that error didnt change anything.

You on the other hand have been completely wrong about what TWP is as well, falsely calming that a "contested ball" doest count, thats a lie that you made up.. I admit my mistake while you continue to lie and vortex

You used the data that includes fumbles and just a small fraction of the balls thrown to the wrong team to make a counter argument against what I said is not better. Its idiotic, your counter argument is stupid, it proves nothing.. you look like a complete moron for using that as an argument in the first place. This is the equivalate of someone saying Fields is a bad passer, and you come back with his combined yards to argue what a great passer he is.. Combined yards has rushing, so thats a stupid stat to use in a debate just about passing..

TWP has fumbles, thats a stupid stat to use in a debate just on passing..

The fact of the matter is that even though your argument is stupid to make, it still proves me correct, thats how stupid you are.

You make a dumb counterargument that still proves me correct. The numbers still do not favor you at all.. so 15+ pages of you vortexing about a completely stupid point.. that proves me correct..

Your vortex sure does make you look stupid

That error changes your fake calculations because you were deducting the 4 fumbles from 9 TWP under Waldron to calculate your bullshit 111%. That was wrong and your numbers are fake. Thus your whole TWP skyrocketed was bullshit.

You havent proven contested catches where the WR knocks the ball away are TWPs. In the vid you cited above the only contested catch shown is one where the Vikings DB intercepted the ball so obviously it is a TWP as Ryan threw into triple coverage and it was picked.

That bears no resemblence to a contested catch where the DB and WR are fighting for the ball and it does not end in an Int or a high chance of Int. It is telling that every other example in the vid was of a DB clearly dropping a ball that they got both hands on without any WR interference.

So once again all you have shown is you are too stupid to understand what PFF is saying.

 

[dbldrew]

That error changes your fake calculations because you were deducting the 4 fumbles from 9 TWP under Waldron to calculate your bullshit 111%. That was wrong and your numbers are fake. Thus your whole TWP skyrocketed was bullshit.

You havent proven contested catches where the WR knocks the ball away are TWPs. In the vid you cited above the only contested catch shown is one where the Vikings DB intercepted the ball so obviously it is a TWP as Ryan threw into triple coverage and it was picked.

That bears no resemblence to a contested catch where the DB and WR are fighting for the ball and it does not end in an Int or a high chance of Int. It is telling that every other example in the vid was of a DB clearly dropping a ball that they got both hands on without any WR interference.

So once again all you have shown is you are too stupid to understand what PFF is saying.

I adjusted the calculations. Stop your lies.

Besides I don't need to do anything to the calculations for an argument that's is fucking stupid in the first place. You made a stupid argument, that is a simple fact.

You argued fumbles in a debate about passing. That's a stupid argument.

 

[doctorbear]

Thomas Brown is worse than Eberflus.

He might be the worst HC in NFL history!

 

[monkforasia]

No to Thomas Brown for Head Coach. I want an offensive coach. Ben Johnson please. Not sure if Joe Brady is ready.

 

[remydat]

I adjusted the calculations. Stop your lies.

Besides I don't need to do anything to the calculations for an argument that's is fucking stupid in the first place. You made a stupid argument, that is a simple fact.

You argued fumbles in a debate about passing. That's a stupid argument.

Caleb had 9 TWP under Waldron. You incorrectly removed all 4 fumbles because you believe all 4 fumbles were TWP and said it was only 5 passing TWPs under Waldron. This is incorrect. We know one of those fumbles was the Kramer handoff which is not a TWP. We also know one was the Latu strip sack where it was a 2 man route so Caleb had to wait so that is unlikely to be a TWP either. The other 2 are unknown. So unless you have proof none of the 9 TWPs should be adjusted.

Now having lost the argument and being embarrassed by how wrong you were suddenly it was a stupid argument in the first place. Yet you spent like 15 pages arguing it and only crying when your ignorance was revealed.

 

[dbldrew]

Caleb had 9 TWP under Waldron. You incorrectly removed all 4 fumbles because you believe all 4 fumbles were TWP and said it was only 5 passing TWPs under Waldron. This is incorrect. We know one of those fumbles was the Kramer handoff which is not a TWP. We also know one was the Latu strip sack where it was a 2 man route so Caleb had to wait so that is unlikely to be a TWP either. The other 2 are unknown. So unless you have proof none of the 9 TWPs should be adjusted.

Now having lost the argument and being embarrassed by how wrong you were suddenly it was a stupid argument in the first place. Yet you spent like 15 pages arguing it and only crying when your ignorance was revealed.

All lies. I updated the numbers, stop lying

 

[cameronkrazie86]

Starting off fast again, 0 pts in last 5 first half quarters. Thomas Tomlin for head coach!

 

[SugarWalls]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1743048617751904550

Let's say Caleb looks good to close out the season and Brown's play calling looks legit.

Would be the most Bears move ever for Bears to fire Flus and just make Brown Head Coach for the sake of continuity and Caleb having a 2nd year in the offense.

This aged just about as well as any other brilliant idea you’ve had

 

[doctorbear]

Starting off fast again, 0 pts in last 5 first half quarters. Thomas Tomlin for head coach!

There was some dude who said in another thread he's the next tomlin. Might be buried in this one. Legit compared him to the 11th winningest coach of all time. Bears fans are dumb af

 

[cameronkrazie86]

Can't kick a FG, gotta stay true to the scoreless first halve gameplan.

 

[bamainatlanta]

I’ve seen enough. That 4th down playcall was a clown call. You are missing your power back and decide to run it up the gut. F this guy.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Can't kick a FG, gotta stay true to the scoreless first halve gameplan.

This dude is in over his head. Not surprised, it’s not his fault. He’s not a good OC either. Waldron-esque playcall right there.

 

[remydat]

All lies. I updated the numbers, stop lying

Stick with PFF numbers as you claimed you did it per PFF. PFF is 2.3% to 2.6% which again is 13%. You are too stupid to update anything.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1868831028930134097

 

[dbldrew]

Stick with PFF numbers as you claimed you did it per PFF. PFF is 2.3% to 2.6% which again is 13%. You are too stupid to update anything.

3.4% for the 3 games for just passing TWP.