Thomas Brown for Head Coach

[dbldrew]

Sir you made a counter argument and fucked up the calculations because you didnt read the article you posted. Huge failure on your part and absolutely moronic.

Dont get mad at me because I read your source and destroyed your argument. Your math was wrong jackass. The end.

And I acknowledge that.

Do you think that changes the list of stupidity of your argument?

Which one of those list do you think changes?

Your TWP argument is stupid because they have fumbles in it

Your TWP argument is stupid because they fucked up the math.

Your TWP argument is stupid because they ignore most of the balls "thrown to the wrong team"

Your TWP argument is stupid because IT STILL SHOWS THE INCREASE

Your TWP argument is stupid because every single calculation shows an increase, per game, combined vs passing, or even combined vs combined still show the increase.

Please give a detailed explanation on why my mistake which I acknowledged and corrected magically erased any of that list?

For **** sake reamy you used a stupid stat that still showed the increase I said happened.

What a total failure

 

[remydat]

And I acknowledge that.

Do you think that changes the list of stupidity of your argument?

Which one of those list do you think changes?

Your TWP argument is stupid because they have fumbles in it

Your TWP argument is stupid because they fucked up the math.

Your TWP argument is stupid because they ignore most of the balls "thrown to the wrong team"

Your TWP argument is stupid because IT STILL SHOWS THE INCREASE

Your TWP argument is stupid because every single calculation shows an increase, per game, combined vs passing, or even combined vs combined still show the increase.

Please give a detailed explanation on why my mistake which I acknowledged and corrected magically erased any of that list?

For **** sake reamy you used a stupid stat that still showed the increase I said happened.

What a total failure

Are you now acknowledging that you have no data to prove the skyrocketing claim as so far you have said you are wrong about the fumbles but then still tried to argue you are right about the throws skyrocketing.

I have no TWP argument beyond the fact that as calculated by PFF, PFR and FTN, it is not a huge issue. You tried to argue it was but have no data to prove it now. Posting screenshots is not data and is biased unless you do that for all games and all QBs like PFF does.

 

[dbldrew]

Are you now acknowledging that you have no data to prove the skyrocketing claim as so far you have said you are wrong about the fumbles but then still tried to argue you are right about the throws skyrocketing.

I have no TWP argument beyond the fact that as calculated by PFF, PFR and FTN, it is not a huge issue. You tried to argue it was but have no data to prove it now. Posting screenshots is not data and is baised unless you do that for all games and all QBs like PFF does.

No I posted screenshots to prove the skyrocketed balls being thrown to the wrong team.. you want to counter that with screenshots of games before Brown then go for it, because your fumbles stat you posted that still showed an increase only proves you're an idiot

 

[remydat]

No I posted screenshots to prove the skyrocketed balls being thrown to the wrong team.. you want to counter that with screenshots of games before Brown then go for it, because your fumbles stat you posted that still showed an increase only proves you're an idiot

You are being dumb. Skyrocket means that the change from point A to point B has increased significantly. All you have done is shown screenshots from one game of point B. You have provided zero data of what Point A is (TWP under Waldron) so you dont have any data.

So you are the idiot. You cant prove a significant change by only looking at Point B. You have to also look at Point A so let me know when you finished your review of all Waldron and Brown games.

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

As Thomas Brown said it is a results oriented business so clearly the results havent been there the last 2 weeks so right now it is 3 solid games and 2 poor games. 3 more games to go but the door has probably closed on him unless there are some miracles the last 3 games.

So you are saying that, even after last night's game, there is still a chance that Thomas Brown returns to the Bears in 2025 as either HC or OC?

IS....THIS....FOR.....REAL?!!!!

 

[remydat]

So you are saying that, even after last night's game, there is still a chance that Thomas Brown returns to the Bears in 2025 as either HC or OC?

IS....THIS....FOR.....REAL?!!!!

We are dealing with the Bears so yes. If it were my decision he is out of the running. It isnt my decision.

 

[dbldrew]

You are being dumb. Skyrocket means that the change from point A to point B has increased significantly. All you have done is shown screenshots from one game of point B. You have provided zero data of what Point A is (TWP under Waldron) so you dont have any data.

So you are the idiot. You cant prove a significant change by only looking at Point B. You have to also look at Point A so let me know when you finished your review of all Waldron and Brown games.

Your being dumb, throwing the ball to the other team does not mean fumbles.. your counterargument containing fumbles is about as dumb of an argument as you could have ever made.

Nobody cares about your fumble stats in a debate about throwing the ball. You are being an idiot

 

[remydat]

Your being dumb, throwing the ball to the other team does not mean fumbles.. your counterargument containing fumbles is about as dumb of an argument as you could have ever made.

Nobody cares about your fumble stats in a debate about throwing the ball. You are being an idiot

The problem still remains you made a statement you cant support. You dont know if the throws to the other team skyrocketed or not so it was a stupid fucking thing to say.

So let's make this simple. Do you have any data (not BS screenshots) that supports your claim?

 

[Sculpt]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1743048617751904550

Let's say Caleb looks good to close out the season and Brown's play calling looks legit.

Would be the most Bears move ever for Bears to fire Flus and just make Brown Head Coach for the sake of continuity and Caleb having a 2nd year in the offense.

I was not impressed with the game-time decisions Brown made.

Down 10-0 in the first, take the FG on 4th and 1... when you already failed 4th and 1 with Swift, and you don't have Rochon Johnson.

When asked about the play, he said 'we're always going to be aggressive'. Two things...

One, no, you're always trying to win the game. Two, you shouldn't be announcing to your opponent what you're going to do in these situations.

I also didn't like taking that TO during Minn's offensive drive. I'm not sure what indication he perceived the Bears defense was going to stop them. It was too soon. I can more chuck that one up to being a rookie HC. But it was one of a few decisions I didn't think was effective.

Also, regarding Bears offense, I don't think he's demonstrating the highest use of that roster. Not yet, anyway. He hasn't gotten Williams to pull the trigger or throw it away enough, although I was happy to see CW throw one pass away.

I would have ran Krammer, Homer (or even Kmet if they worked on it) on short yardage. Anyone but Swift, who is crap at it.

 

[remydat]

I was not impressed with the game-time decisions Brown made.

Down 10-0 in the first, take the FG on 4th and 1... when you already failed 4th and 1 with Swift, and you don't have Rochon Johnson.

When asked about the play, he said 'we're always going to be aggressive'. Two things...

One, no, you're always trying to win the game. Two, you shouldn't be announcing to your opponent what you're going to do in these situations.

I also didn't like taking that TO during Minn's offensive drive. I'm not sure what indication he perceived the Bears defense was going to stop them. It was too soon. I can more chuck that one up to being a rookie HC. But it was one of a few decisions I didn't think was effective.

Also, regarding Bears offense, I don't think he's demonstrating the highest use of that roster. Not yet, anyway. He hasn't gotten Williams to pull the trigger or throw it away enough, although I was happy to see CW throw one pass away.

I would have ran Krammer, Homer (or even Kmet if they worked on it) on short yardage. Anyone but Swift, who is crap at it.

Didnt have a problem going for it. Had a problem with the play call and yes using Swift. Although of course if he uses Homer or Kramer and it fails then the argument would be why use lesser players.

They were down 3 scores to Minny so dont have a problem with the TO.

Williams has his own issues that I think he needs an offseason to reflect and adjust. Dont think it will get fixed in the heat of the season.

 

[dbldrew]

The problem still remains you made a statement you cant support. You dont know if the throws to the other team skyrocketed or not so it was a stupid fucking thing to say.

So let's make this simple. Do you have any data (not BS screenshots) that supports your claim?

I made a statement and backed it up with screenshots. you tried counter arguing a passing debate with a fumble stat..

Yes I have data and went through all the Waldron games and posted screenshots of all the "almost INT" you can compare those games with just the lions game I have also posted and see how much it has "skyrocketed" for Brown.

Now if you want to add in your own screenshots of "almost INT" from waldron I would be happy to critique them and compare them to what I have already posted.

But remember dont post screenshots of fumbles. the debate is not about fumbles (you seem to get confused in this regard so I thought it was best to remind you)

I look forward to your posts. or you can always run away like a coward crying about fumbles. dont really care either way

 

[Hoodey]

You’re an idiot. He’s a rookie and has shown flashes throughout the season that he can end up as a top tier NFL QB.

I’m sure there is a reason you don’t like him but I won’t speculate.

Does he make mistakes? Damn right he does just like every rookie QB.

By the way, Keenan cut off a throw that Odunze most likely catches for a TD on a scramble drill. Odunze dropped another TD right in his hands.

Caleb definitely missed some easy cheese. Big deal.

He didn’t get stuffed on two fourth down runs and he didn’t fail to report to the refs to wipe out a TD that puts them right in the game.

How many balls did Allen drop?

You’re a moron. Flashes? You mean flashy big plays in between all the times when he can’t make the little game managing play? Not all great QBs make flashy sports center plays. They all manage a game well.

lol are you that soft? Wow. Yeah that’s it. It’s not because I just don’t think he’s good because he’s of the same mold of cutlet and grossman (some big spectacular things, not enough incremental little things). It’s not because I wanted to trade down so I could be as happy as I was in 2023. It’s that. Grossman and cutler sucked compared to what most bears fans thought too dude

Your logic and the logic of so many moronic stooges is “he makes mistakes just like Peyton manning, and therefore since some rookies who made mistakes became great, he must be on his way to being great.” The two aren’t connected. Peyton manning had Faulk and Harrison. Check. He also had a starting receiver who had his second best year that year with 681 yards Torrance small and a rookie at the other starting spot on a team that was the worst team in football in 1997… unlike the bears last year. Best part, next year there isn’t going to be any rookie bs. He better be Peyton manning in year 2, right?

By the way he had 160 yards in the 4th quarter in garbage time against the third worst pass defense in the league.

The great ones get all the easy cheese as you put it. The come into the league doing that more consistently than 4 yards in the first half Williams.

Other players on the bears suck. So do some coaches, the front office and the owners. That doesn’t make him great idiot

 

[playthrough2001]

You’re a moron. Flashes? You mean flashy big plays in between all the times when he can’t make the little game managing play? Not all great QBs make flashy sports center plays. They all manage a game well.

lol are you that soft? Wow. Yeah that’s it. It’s not because I just don’t think he’s good because he’s of the same mold of cutlet and grossman (some big spectacular things, not enough incremental little things). It’s not because I wanted to trade down so I could be as happy as I was in 2023. It’s that. Grossman and cutler sucked compared to what most bears fans thought too dude

Your logic and the logic of so many moronic stooges is “he makes mistakes just like Peyton manning, and therefore since some rookies who made mistakes became great, he must be on his way to being great.” The two aren’t connected. Peyton manning had Faulk and Harrison. Check. He also had a starting receiver who had his second best year that year with 681 yards Torrance small and a rookie at the other starting spot on a team that was the worst team in football in 1997… unlike the bears last year. Best part, next year there isn’t going to be any rookie bs. He better be Peyton manning in year 2, right?

By the way he had 160 yards in the 4th quarter in garbage time against the third worst pass defense in the league.

The great ones get all the easy cheese as you put it. The come into the league doing that more consistently than 4 yards in the first half Williams.

Other players on the bears suck. So do some coaches, the front office and the owners. That doesn’t make him great idiot

I had to stop reading this nonsense. Please don’t call anyone a moron when you have trouble constructing a simple sentence in English.

Please go back to eating paint chips or whatever it was you were doing before you climbed out from under your rock.

 

[Hoodey]

You’re an idiot. He’s a rookie and has shown flashes throughout the season that he can end up as a top tier NFL QB.

I’m sure there is a reason you don’t like him but I won’t speculate.

Does he make mistakes? Damn right he does just like every rookie QB.

By the way, Keenan cut off a throw that Odunze most likely catches for a TD on a scramble drill. Odunze dropped another TD right in his hands.

Caleb definitely missed some easy cheese. Big deal.

He didn’t get stuffed on two fourth down runs and he didn’t fail to report to the refs to wipe out a TD that puts them right in the game.

How many balls did Allen drop?

By the way, you know how I see current reference here and on sports radio and in public about “who knew we’d be this bad with what everyone expected. With all the talent.” By the way not “I mean with all the bad coaches and all the players who really aren’t good and would get in the way of Tom Brady Williams, I expected us to be meh.” No one says the second one. Everyone who loves Williams says the first one.

Me! I knew.. right here. Eberflus was another weird mccaskey hire. The bears needed more players than they had to contend and therefore didn’t have the luxury of drafting Williams when they could have gotten an equivalent QB or talent and tons of assets. Williams was as overvalued as Tyson vs Holyfield 1 or usc vs Vince young. I predicted 7-10.

Now that the team is about to go 4-13/5-12, is there anything in side of you that says “I suck at picking things.. maybe instead of thinking I’m always right I’ll consider alternative views.”

 

[dabears70]

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[Hoodey]

I had to stop reading this nonsense. Please don’t call anyone a moron when you have trouble constructing a simple sentence in English.

Please go back to eating paint chips or whatever it was you were doing before you climbed out from under your rock.

you’re a chooch stan and your arguments are shit. They don’t withstand basic scrutiny.

 

[playthrough2001]

By the way, you know how I see current reference here and on sports radio and in public about “who knew we’d be this bad with what everyone expected. With all the talent.” By the way not “I mean with all the bad coaches and all the players who really aren’t good and would get in the way of Tom Brady Williams, I expected us to be meh.” No one says the second one. Everyone who loves Williams says the first one.

Me! I knew.. right here. Eberflus was another weird mccaskey hire. The bears needed more players than they had to contend and therefore didn’t have the luxury of drafting Williams when they could have gotten an equivalent QB or talent and tons of assets. Williams was as overvalued as Tyson vs Holyfield 1 or usc vs Vince young. I predicted 7-10.

Now that the team is about to go 4-13/5-12, is there anything in side of you that says “I suck at picking things.. maybe instead of thinking I’m always right I’ll consider alternative views.”

Not interested…

 

[Hoodey]

Not interested…

lol so soft “you don’t speak English so I quit”. Or I asked you simple questions and posed simple arguments that you can’t respond to. There is zero chance you’re older than 35

 

[playthrough2001]

lol so soft “you don’t speak English so I quit”. Or I asked you simple questions and posed simple arguments that you can’t respond to. There is zero chance you’re older than 35

I guess I hurt your feelings. You can go away now. I’m not interested in anything you think.

I find you to be simple and I get it, you think Caleb sucks. I believe that is incredibly foolish and short sighted.

I’ve watched talented guys like Aikman, Young, Allen, Brees, Manning, Elway, and Bradshaw struggle like crazy as young QBs. None of them played as well as Caleb their first year as starters.

I have to go to my “Cult of Grossman” meeting now. We get together twice a month to discuss the greatness of number 8.

 

[Hoodey]

I guess I hurt your feelings. You can go away now. I’m not interested in anything you think.

I find you to be simple and I get it, you think Caleb sucks. I believe that is incredibly foolish and short sighted.

I’ve watched talented guys like Aikman, Young, Allen, Brees, Manning, Elway, and Bradshaw struggle like crazy as young QBs. None of them played as well as Caleb their first year as starters.

I have to go to my “Cult of Grossman” meeting now. We get together twice a month to discuss the greatness of number 8.

Played as well as Williams? When half of those guys started playing you could take a guys head off across the middle and with the contact that was allowed most teams were running 21 personnel trying to hit a deep pass to the outside receiver.. to which coaches answered with the Tampa 2. Do you think passing stats from 1984 are equivalent to today?

And if it’s just athletes as I’m sure you think, then why was Desmond Howard rather pedestrian in the NFL? Cause he didn’t have talent? Or cause the rules were different.

As the league opened things up, you don’t find the difference between Drew Brees in San Diego and New Orleans to be rather telling?

The problem with your whole schtick is that he has to come out and play next year and if he’s not Peyton manning circa 1999, what will you say then?