Trade DJ Moore?!

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Like I already said, it’s contingent on them signing Tee Higgins.

You’re essentially trading DJ Moore for Tee Higgins (plus whatever extra you have to pay Higgins. Which at most is probably 3 million. Negligible really) and a 2nd. Maybe more if you can squeeze a 4th or a 5th as well.

And why in the world would any of that make sense?

You take on a 38m cap hit for one WR in 2025 and get worse at the position

DJ Moore>>>>>Higgins
 

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And why in the world would any of that make sense?

You take on a 38m cap hit for one WR in 2025 and get worse at the position

DJ Moore>>>>>Higgins
I doubt Poles would do this trade and think DJ will be along for the ride. But I think Higgins is better than Moore.
 

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Why are people attempting to trade up in the draft when so many were happy with the Bears #10 overall selection?

I guess the euphoria from that meaningless victory against the Packers has worn off.
 

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Why are people attempting to trade up in the draft when so many were happy with the Bears #10 overall selection?

I guess the euphoria from that meaningless victory against the Packers has worn off.
Strange draft. Only a few blue chip prospects, imo. Graham and Carter among them. Both are likely gone by 10. Other good players will obviously be available, though.
 

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I doubt Poles would do this trade and think DJ will be along for the ride. But I think Higgins is better than Moore.

You are welcome to your opinion but He absolutely is not. One bad season does not make DJ moore bad.

Tee Higgins has the best QB in the NFL, while DJ moore has been a perennial 1k receiver with bad qb play every year.
 

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And why in the world would any of that make sense?

You take on a 38m cap hit for one WR in 2025 and get worse at the position

DJ Moore>>>>>Higgins

I don’t know how the cap implications work. I brought this up when I was floating it a while back.

Maybe I’m wrong, but with a trade isn’t the team you trade with taking the cap hit? Whatever we owe Moore goes to the team we trade with. Is this not correct? Would we somehow still owe him a bunch of money even with a trade?
 

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You are welcome to your opinion but He absolutely is not. One bad season does not make DJ moore bad.

Tee Higgins has the best QB in the NFL, while DJ moore has been a perennial 1k receiver with bad qb play every year.
I’m not saying DJ Moore is bad. I respect his game. I think Higgins is better in almost every aspect. Except for 1 season, he is also a perennial 1k wr playing alongside Chase and splitting targets.
 

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I’m not saying DJ Moore is bad. I respect his game. I think Higgins is better in almost every aspect. Except for 1 season, he is also a perennial 1k wr playing alongside Chase and splitting targets.

2 1000 yard season, and playing with the BEST QB in the NFL helps just a tad.

Like I said you are welcome to your opinion but DJ moore would dominate with good QB play, much less a guy of burrows caliber. I expect tee to drop off when he goes elsewhere.
 

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2 1000 yard season, and playing with the BEST QB in the NFL helps just a tad.

Like I said you are welcome to your opinion but DJ moore would dominate with good QB play, much less a guy of burrows caliber. I expect tee to drop off when he goes elsewhere.
Agree to disagree.

They’re both damn good receivers.
 

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2 1000 yard season, and playing with the BEST QB in the NFL helps just a tad.

Like I said you are welcome to your opinion but DJ moore would dominate with good QB play, much less a guy of burrows caliber. I expect tee to drop off when he goes elsewhere.
DJ is a currently a top 10 WR in a subpar offensive situation in Chicago. If he was ever put in a real offensive scheme with a good quarterback, he’d be a perennial All Pro.
 

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If the Bears are sticking with CW, might be right to move DJ. He was mostly upset about not winning. But there also seems to not be any chemistry between CW and DJ. Early on in the season DJ was getting pissed at CW, he got called out by Chicago media, and going forward he seemed to not openly show it. If you ask me, I'd take DJ but that's not happening I don't think.
I have no inside knowledge, but I believe the problem was a combination of the offense underperforming as well as Caleb attempting to force feed his best friend Rome Odunze over DJ Moore.

That’s what I saw early in the season.
 

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real talk, what happened to @djmooreisfat?
 

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I don’t know how the cap implications work. I brought this up when I was floating it a while back.

Maybe I’m wrong, but with a trade isn’t the team you trade with taking the cap hit? Whatever we owe Moore goes to the team we trade with. Is this not correct? Would we somehow still owe him a bunch of money even with a trade?
I think this trade is a bonkers idea- but the cap implications for the Bears in this crazy hypothetical are light - DJs moores remaining prorated signing bonus ($16m) would hit the ‘25 cap but none of his salary would. His cap hit for ‘25 would actually drop from $24.8m to $16m creating an additional $8.8m of cap space for the team. The trade is crazy but for reasons that have nothing to do with his cap hit.
 

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I have no inside knowledge, but I believe the problem was a combination of the offense underperforming as well as Caleb attempting to force feed his best friend Rome Odunze over DJ Moore.

That’s what I saw early in the season.
Then you clearly need your eyes examined.

Throughout the first four weeks, DJ was targeted 34 times, while Rome was targeted only 23 times. Through 6 weeks, going the bye--DJ was at 47 targets, Rome only 31.

Keenan was targeted 14 times in said 4-week span, and he missed weeks 2 and 3. Through the bye, 25 targets. Again, Keenan missed weeks 2 and 3, and even if you take the average targets per week (4 targets), had Keenan played he likely has more targets than Rome too.

Then I see your Fields jersey in the avatar, your posting start date--and the incompetent, lazy assertion that could have been avoided by just looking at any stats/sports website for 2 minutes (I used profootball reference) but you couldn't be bothered to look at one, so you just pull this out of your ass--makes a lot more sense.

Next time, its better to remain quiet and have everyone think you're an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
 

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So since we’re in the rumor mill season, thought I’d share something I heard (Benjamin Solak?) regarding a trade of DJ Moore to the Patriots.

What if:
Bears move up to 4 and get Pats pick 2-38.
Pats get pick 10 and DJ Moore.
Is that fair value?

Pros:
-Abdul Carter is likely a Bear
-3 2nd round picks; ie 1 DT and 2 OL
-more cap space

Cons:
-DJ Moore is a stud
-just signed the long-term extension

I’m not saying I would do this trade or not. Obviously the biggest factor would be DJ’s state of mind. One has to think he wants to stay in Chi long term due to the extension.

Anyway, I found the proposal interesting and worth at least considering. But maybe that is because Carter is my favorite player in the draft.
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I think this trade is a bonkers idea- but the cap implications for the Bears in this crazy hypothetical are light - DJs moores remaining prorated signing bonus ($16m) would hit the ‘25 cap but none of his salary would. His cap hit for ‘25 would actually drop from $24.8m to $16m creating an additional $8.8m of cap space for the team. The trade is crazy but for reasons that have nothing to do with his cap hit.

16m in dead cap to get rid of a guy for a lesser player and pay him the same contract is for sure a stupid idea.
 

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I think this trade is a bonkers idea- but the cap implications for the Bears in this crazy hypothetical are light - DJs moores remaining prorated signing bonus ($16m) would hit the ‘25 cap but none of his salary would. His cap hit for ‘25 would actually drop from $24.8m to $16m creating an additional $8.8m of cap space for the team. The trade is crazy but for reasons that have nothing to do with his cap hit.

Sure there's more room but they lose a WR.

Sign Tee for say 27M per and you get a nice 43M cap hit for that single position instead of sticking with DJ and his 24.8.

Yep, so much cap savings!!!!
 
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Then you clearly need your eyes examined.

Throughout the first four weeks, DJ was targeted 34 times, while Rome was targeted only 23 times. Through 6 weeks, going the bye--DJ was at 47 targets, Rome only 31.

Keenan was targeted 14 times in said 4-week span, and he missed weeks 2 and 3. Through the bye, 25 targets. Again, Keenan missed weeks 2 and 3, and even if you take the average targets per week (4 targets), had Keenan played he likely has more targets than Rome too.

Then I see your Fields jersey in the avatar, your posting start date--and the incompetent, lazy assertion that could have been avoided by just looking at any stats/sports website for 2 minutes (I used profootball reference) but you couldn't be bothered to look at one, so you just pull this out of your ass--makes a lot more sense.

Next time, its better to remain quiet and have everyone think you're an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

DJ was targeted a lot but he was targeted improperly.

His average depth of target was by far his career low.

This scheme(Or whatever it was) is the worst shit I've ever seen in my lifetime as a bears fan. No clue how the **** waldron had success in Seattle when he couldnt even figure out how to use his targets properly.

For some reason KA was running all the routes DJ Moore should have been for a large part of the first 3/4ths of the season.
 

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Sure there's more room but they lose a WR.

Sign Tee for say 27M per and you get a nice 43M cap hit for that single position instead of sticking with DJ and his almost 24.8.

Yep, so much cap savings!!!!

Yea, you cant use that dead cap so essentially you have an insane amount of money tied up to make the position worse.

For what reason? Not really fucking sure other than the OP makes a bunch of stupid hypothetical trade threads ever year.

If this trade happened and the bears missed out on higgins/godwin(Which is very likely, a lot of teams have cap room this year), then he will start a thread in 2026 asking if we should trade for a WR to help caleb out.

I love rome but there is zero way to know he will be a true #1 wr in this league yet. DJ Has proven he's that with terrible QB play his entire career. If you trade DJ your #2 wr is Tyler Scott. They ALREADY have to go out and sign a pretty pricey 3rd option(10m/yr) as this roster currently lacks any WR thats reliable. In this scenario you need to go out and sign 2.
 

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