Trade Idea

[czman]

I think the Suns laugh the Bulls out of the room. The Suns are in a very good financial situation. Green is averaging ~23 points per 36 minutes and he fits their up pace style much better than McDermott would. I am not sure what the Bulls can do right now to solve the win issues. I think we will have a better idea in ~2 weeks. The trade deadline is about a six weeks away. The Bulls have some time to let things play out.

 

[knoxville7]

I think the Suns laugh the Bulls out of the room. The Suns are in a very good financial situation. Green is averaging ~23 points per 36 minutes and he fits their up pace style much better than McDermott would. I am not sure what the Bulls can do right now to solve the win issues. I think we will have a better idea in ~2 weeks. The trade deadline is about a six weeks away. The Bulls have some time to let things play out.

the suns wont be resigning green at the end of the year though more than likely. that is what made me think he could be available for McDermott(and draft pick if needed)

 

[SweetHomeChicago]

Any chance Snell could be that guy at some point this year?

 

[knoxville7]

Any chance Snell could be that guy at some point this year?

:gary:

 

[SweetHomeChicago]

:gary:

Not even a Solid twenty minutes? Maybe? Possibly? :dunno:

 

[knoxville7]

Not even a Solid twenty minutes? Maybe? Possibly? :dunno:

i wish. i really liked the guy coming out of college. i thought his frame would translate well to the nba. he just doesn't seem to have the mentality for it

 

[ChettheJet]

Not a single word about Mike Dunleavy. he didn't die, he's coming back this week some people just have short term memory erasure. Mirotic can play the 3 for the 10 minutes he has to every game. It's not like anybody in the organization thinks he should be playing 40 minutes there. Unless people are already worried about next season before this one is even half over.

 

[Diddy1122]

A couple things: 1) we don't need Gerald Green; 2) we haven't even seen much of McDermott due to injury and the FO is not going to trade a rookie, whom they gave up two picks to get, for a 1 year rental player who may or may not even be as good as McDermott; 3) Mirotic played the 3 BY DESIGN LAST NIGHT. That was not out of necessity. Yes MDJ is out but that gave Thibs the opportunity to give Niko an extended look at the 3, something they had been trying to do for weeks.

A guess what? He knocked it out of the park! Not only did he prove he can guard on the wing, he proved that he can even take a very good wing defender in Ariza off the dribble. His defense has improved DRASTICALLY over the past month. It's the main reason why he is seeing even more time now. Before he used to be pushed around by everyone down low. Now, he is bringing physicality and holding his own in the paint. Before he used to shy away when opponent was flying toward the hoop at him. Now he is getting in their face. Case and point his run down and block of a streaking James Harden on a full court fast break play.

At this point, this team is as complete as you can get for a championship contender. There's depth at every position, skill at every position, the offense can play inside and out, and the defense can shut teams down in stretches to seal victories. The team is on a total roll (13 wins out of last 15) and there's no reason for a friviolous trade that does nothing to improve the team overall.

 

[knoxville7]

Not a single word about Mike Dunleavy. he didn't die, he's coming back this week some people just have short term memory erasure. Mirotic can play the 3 for the 10 minutes he has to every game. It's not like anybody in the organization thinks he should be playing 40 minutes there. Unless people are already worried about next season before this one is even half over.

absolutely did not forget about Dunleavy, look back through some of these. but why not upgrade the weakest position on our roster if it can be done?

 

[knoxville7]

A couple things: 1) we don't need Gerald Green; 2) we haven't even seen much of McDermott due to injury and the FO is not going to trade a rookie, whom they gave up two picks to get, for a 1 year rental player who may or may not even be as good as McDermott; 3) Mirotic played the 3 BY DESIGN LAST NIGHT. That was not out of necessity. Yes MDJ is out but that gave Thibs the opportunity to give Niko an extended look at the 3, something they had been trying to do for weeks.

A guess what? He knocked it out of the park! Not only did he prove he can guard on the wing, he proved that he can even take a very good wing defender in Ariza off the dribble. His defense has improved DRASTICALLY over the past month. It's the main reason why he is seeing even more time now. Before he used to be pushed around by everyone down low. Now, he is bringing physicality and holding his own in the paint. Before he used to shy away when opponent was flying toward the hoop at him. Now he is getting in their face. Case and point his run down and block of a streaking James Harden on a full court fast break play.

At this point, this team is as complete as you can get for a championship contender. There's depth at every position, skill at every position, the offense can play inside and out, and the defense can shut teams down in stretches to seal victories. The team is on a total roll (13 wins out of last 15) and there's no reason for a friviolous trade that does nothing to improve the team overall.

first off, are you aware who Gerald green is even? the guy is scoring 14 a game, McDermott is hurt and when did play looked completely lost. so yes green would be an upgrade. and while the team has a lot of depth, jimmy is still playing 40 min a game because our wing position doesn't have a lot of depth, especially when it comes to defense. and while the team looks championship caliber, theres nothing wrong with going all out and having the extra bullet in the pistol

 

[Scoot26]

first off, are you aware who Gerald green is even? the guy is scoring 14 a game, McDermott is hurt and when did play looked completely lost. so yes green would be an upgrade. and while the team has a lot of depth, jimmy is still playing 40 min a game because our wing position doesn't have a lot of depth, especially when it comes to defense. and while the team looks championship caliber, theres nothing wrong with going all out and having the extra bullet in the pistol

Green would not average 14 ppg on the Bulls if he came here.

Also Jimmy is going to play 40 mpg because thats what Thibs wants. Even when the team is fully healthy, Jimmy is playing 40 mpg.

 

[knoxville7]

Green would not average 14 ppg on the Bulls if he came here.

Also Jimmy is going to play 40 mpg because thats what Thibs wants. Even when the team is fully healthy, Jimmy is playing 40 mpg.

green wouldn't have to score 14 a game if he was on the bulls, that's not the point. having another guy that can score and get his own shot and is athletic, that is always a good thing. and jimmy plays 40 min a game because thibs doesn't have another wing defender that he trusts to do the job

 

[Scoot26]

green wouldn't have to score 14 a game if he was on the bulls, that's not the point. having another guy that can score and get his own shot and is athletic, that is always a good thing. and jimmy plays 40 min a game because thibs doesn't have another wing defender that he trusts to do the job

The Bulls have Rose, Butler, Brooks, Gasol, and coming on now is Mirotic who can get their own shots. Thats a whole starting lineup. McDermott is for future purposes and for all we know could be a new man when he comes back from his knee injury. Dunleavy is solid in his own on the catch and shoot three's.

Dunleavy and Snell could easily spell Butler a few minutes a game, but Thibs has chosen not to. What makes you think the Bulls trading for Gerald Green makes him change his rotation at all other than word from management than YOU MUST PLAY THIS GUY?

I just don't understand why we need a shake up or to add more scoring power when the team already has plenty of scoring power. At the moment, scoring isn't' an issue. Defense is. And while Green has improved at playing defense in Phoenix's system, that is zero guarantee he does anything in Thibs system and thus is no better than Snell.

 

[knoxville7]

The Bulls have Rose, Butler, Brooks, Gasol, and coming on now is Mirotic who can get their own shots. Thats a whole starting lineup. McDermott is for future purposes and for all we know could be a new man when he comes back from his knee injury. Dunleavy is solid in his own on the catch and shoot three's.

Dunleavy and Snell could easily spell Butler a few minutes a game, but Thibs has chosen not to. What makes you think the Bulls trading for Gerald Green makes him change his rotation at all other than word from management than YOU MUST PLAY THIS GUY?

I just don't understand why we need a shake up or to add more scoring power when the team already has plenty of scoring power. At the moment, scoring isn't' an issue. Defense is. And while Green has improved at playing defense in Phoenix's system, that is zero guarantee he does anything in Thibs system and thus is no better than Snell.

THIBS doesn't trust Dunleavy or snell to play defense late in the game. thibs would love to play a lineup of rose, butler, green, gasol, and noah at the end of a close game. go look at tape of green play, the guy is a freak athletically and plays good defense already. imagine what thibs would get out of him. imagine being able to lock up Durant and westbrook with butler and green or LeBron and kyrie, etc.

 

[Crystallas]

Then trade Dunleavy or Snell. Not the guy that is on a rookie contract and can give us talent+cap relief.

 

[knoxville7]

Then trade Dunleavy or Snell. Not the guy that is on a rookie contract and can give us talent+cap relief.

why would phoenix trade a guy on the final year of his contract for a guy on the final year of his contract who isn't as good???? you have to give up something of value to get something of value

 

[Crystallas]

I'm not taking anything here seriously. Nor would Phoenix or the Bulls. These ideas are best left for NBA 2K

 

[knoxville7]

I'm not taking anything here seriously. Nor would Phoenix or the Bulls. These ideas are best left for NBA 2K

and that is because why? love when people discredit but lack any sort of insight as to why

 

[Crystallas]

and that is because why? love when people discredit but lack any sort of insight as to why

I already said why. The Bulls aren't going to trade their cap relief away. McDermott brings talent and a rookie contract to the table. They know what they have with Doug, why would they trade it for something that they don't know will work? Exactly, they wont. Plus the Bulls don't want Green. He's peaking, and his peak isn't enough to shake up the roster mid-season, nor does his style fit this system. In addition to that, Thibs is still dealing with developing players and new faces that are key members of this team. When he has too many players to work with, he simply chucks them to the end of the bench. So basically, we give up McDermott for nothing.

 

[knoxville7]

I already said why. The Bulls aren't going to trade their cap relief away. McDermott brings talent and a rookie contract to the table. They know what they have with Doug, why would they trade it for something that they don't know will work? Exactly, they wont. Plus the Bulls don't want Green. He's peaking, and his peak isn't enough to shake up the roster mid-season, nor does his style fit this system. In addition to that, Thibs is still dealing with developing players and new faces that are key members of this team. When he has too many players to work with, he simply chucks them to the end of the bench. So basically, we give up McDermott for nothing.

green has been a good player for a few years now, he didn't just suddenly come out of nowhere. and you seem to think dougie is a lock to be a good player in this league, but i have news for you, theres a good chance he is a bust. so why not trade him while he still holds value for a guy that can actually help us win a title this year??? it doesn't hurt our cap relief at all, as a matter of fact it frees up more money in the long run to re sign butler