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and that is because why? love when people discredit but lack any sort of insight as to why

This conversation is stupid for the reasons already stated. A team that is cruising and won 13 out of the last 15 does not need to make a trade like this. Dunleavy hasn't disappeared, hes just injured and he'll be back. I understand wanting to improve, but getting Gerald green for Dunleavy is not the right move.
 

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This conversation is stupid for the reasons already stated. A team that is cruising and won 13 out of the last 15 does not need to make a trade like this. Dunleavy hasn't disappeared, hes just injured and he'll be back. I understand wanting to improve, but getting Gerald green for Dunleavy is not the right move.

the idea wasn't Gerald green for Dunleavy
its Gerald green for mcdermott
 

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green has been a good player for a few years now, he didn't just suddenly come out of nowhere. and you seem to think dougie is a lock to be a good player in this league, but i have news for you, theres a good chance he is a bust. so why not trade him while he still holds value for a guy that can actually help us win a title this year??? it doesn't hurt our cap relief at all, as a matter of fact it frees up more money in the long run to re sign butler

I never said Doug is a lock, nor did I say Green suddenly came out of nowhere. So I can see that your going to rely on putting words into the mouths of others to make a non-existent argument.

As far as cap relief, yes, he does. Because the Bulls can match any offer on Jimmy and pay him more. They still have him, and they still have McDermott. Next season, they can have both again, and it's far more probable they can have both, opposed to just having one, and losing Green. Nor would they want him, because he wont fit the scheme.
 

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You and I LOVE this time of year!!!!!!!!

:bullbang::bullbang::jimmybuckets:

I know, in a week, we're going to see every GM wanabee come out of the woodworks(easy to spot, because they don't contribute much other than trade ideas, as can be seen in gameday thread activity, award discussion, season discussion, etc), and we'll see 100 ESPN Trade Machine links posted every few days. It's a viscous cycle, and it wont change, but damn, this time of the year....
 

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I never said Doug is a lock, nor did I say Green suddenly came out of nowhere. So I can see that your going to rely on putting words into the mouths of others to make a non-existent argument.

As far as cap relief, yes, he does. Because the Bulls can match any offer on Jimmy and pay him more. They still have him, and they still have McDermott. Next season, they can have both again, and it's far more probable they can have both, opposed to just having one, and losing Green. Nor would they want him, because he wont fit the scheme.

the point of the trade is to make the extra push to win a title this year. if trading McDermott gets you a title id say its worth it. and you saying "green doesn't fit our system" makes no sense at all. thibs like i posted earlier would love to play a lineup of rose, butler, green, gasol, noah at the end of games to lock down other teams best players
 

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I know, in a week, we're going to see every GM wanabee come out of the woodworks(easy to spot, because they don't contribute much other than trade ideas, as can be seen in gameday thread activity, award discussion, season discussion, etc), and we'll see 100 ESPN Trade Machine links posted every few days. It's a viscous cycle, and it wont change, but damn, this time of the year....

yes, heaven forbid people come up with ideas to improve the team instead of just kicking back and bashing those who do
 

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the point of the trade is to make the extra push to win a title this year. if trading McDermott gets you a title id say its worth it. and you saying "green doesn't fit our system" makes no sense at all. thibs like i posted earlier would love to play a lineup of rose, butler, green, gasol, noah at the end of games to lock down other teams best players

I don't see Green pushing this team a notch up from where it is right now.
 

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I don't see Green pushing this team a notch up from where it is right now.

that's fine, agree to disagree. just imagine this team without butler though if he were to get hurt. season over, no chance at a title. who guards the best perimeter players every night then?
 

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that's fine, agree to disagree. just imagine this team without butler though if he were to get hurt. season over, no chance at a title. who guards the best perimeter players every night then?
Green isn't an elite defender. And you're overstating Mirotic playing the three defensively. If we have any combo of Butler, Noah or Gibson on the floor, we can mask it.
 

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Green isn't an elite defender. And you're overstating Mirotic playing the three defensively. If we have any combo of Butler, Noah or Gibson on the floor, we can mask it.

never claimed green to be an "elite" defender, but he would instantly be our second best wing defender after butler. everyone thinks this team is so deep, and while it is, it can still use another wing player. and i love mirotic don't get me wrong, but he cant guard the good 3's in this league. he plays with great effort and intensity, but he just isn't quick enough to guard 3's on a consistent basis
 

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yes, heaven forbid people come up with ideas to improve the team instead of just kicking back and bashing those who do

Would be nice if they did more than just show up to propose trades. And it would be nice if the trade proposals actually would mean something(as if the GMs of prosports teams are sifting through this thread for ideas).
 

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Would be nice if they did more than just show up to propose trades. And it would be nice if the trade proposals actually would mean something(as if the GMs of prosports teams are sifting through this thread for ideas).

hmmm.....so what qualifies a trade proposal as "meaning something" to you?? does it have to be thought up by you?? since they obviously have to meet your approval and all
 

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What a great idea give up the players we traded 2 1st round picks for...no.
 

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What a great idea give up the players we traded 2 1st round picks for...no.

so let a past decision dictate the future?? that no way to run a business
 

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hmmm.....so what qualifies a trade proposal as "meaning something" to you?? does it have to be thought up by you?? since they obviously have to meet your approval and all

A trade proposal needs to be made by the GMs of the teams. I'm not the Bulls or Suns GM, therefore I wouldn't be delusional to think I can make trade proposals, nor if I did, I wouldn't take them seriously.
 

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first off, are you aware who Gerald green is even? the guy is scoring 14 a game, McDermott is hurt and when did play looked completely lost. so yes green would be an upgrade. and while the team has a lot of depth, jimmy is still playing 40 min a game because our wing position doesn't have a lot of depth, especially when it comes to defense. and while the team looks championship caliber, theres nothing wrong with going all out and having the extra bullet in the pistol

If you mean the Gerald Green who was drafted straight out of HS by the Celtics, traded to the Wolves in the Garnett deal and found himself out of the league 2 years later, having to work his way back in by playing in the D-League before getting a shot with the Nets 3 seasons ago, then Yes, I know who Gerald Green is. He did the Birthday Cake Dunk. That was his legacy until he realized that if you play hard & work hard on both ends of the floor, you can carve a place out in this league. I actually admire him for that.

And I actually agree that he is talented. He can stretch the floor and has incredible athleticism. However, giving up an unproven rookie, who has only played 17 games so far in his rookie year for an OBVIOUS 1-year rental player is not a sound trade idea.

yes, heaven forbid people come up with ideas to improve the team instead of just kicking back and bashing those who do

It doesn't improve the team though and that is what everyone has been trying to get across in this thread. Once a big trade happens in the NBA (Waiters/Shumpert/Smith trade yesterday) it is inevitable that all manner of trade idea threads get started up, with the majority of them being, like Crys said, NBA 2K trade ideas. This falls into that category imho. There's little thought given to the bigger picture or the current state of the team or other factors that go into trade evaluation. It's an "on the surface" trade or just making a trade for the sake of making a trade. There is no reason for it and that's been the MAIN point in the majority of posts in here.
 

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If you mean the Gerald Green who was drafted straight out of HS by the Celtics, traded to the Wolves in the Garnett deal and found himself out of the league 2 years later, having to work his way back in by playing in the D-League before getting a shot with the Nets 3 seasons ago, then Yes, I know who Gerald Green is. He did the Birthday Cake Dunk. That was his legacy until he realized that if you play hard & work hard on both ends of the floor, you can carve a place out in this league. I actually admire him for that.

And I actually agree that he is talented. He can stretch the floor and has incredible athleticism. However, giving up an unproven rookie, who has only played 17 games so far in his rookie year for an OBVIOUS 1-year rental player is not a sound trade idea.



It doesn't improve the team though and that is what everyone has been trying to get across in this thread. Once a big trade happens in the NBA (Waiters/Shumpert/Smith trade yesterday) it is inevitable that all manner of trade idea threads get started up, with the majority of them being, like Crys said, NBA 2K trade ideas. This falls into that category imho. There's little thought given to the bigger picture or the current state of the team or other factors that go into trade evaluation. It's an "on the surface" trade or just making a trade for the sake of making a trade. There is no reason for it and that's been the MAIN point in the majority of posts in here.


wow, well then pardon me for not knowing that green wont help the bulls in any way. i forgot that some people can see into the future
 

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A trade proposal needs to be made by the GMs of the teams. I'm not the Bulls or Suns GM, therefore I wouldn't be delusional to think I can make trade proposals, nor if I did, I wouldn't take them seriously.

whats the point of these forums if people cant discuss hypotheticals???

and actually i gave a few reasons why the trade makes sense roster wise
 

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