"Trubisky has zero interest to return to the Bears" report is not true.

[satchice]

My suggestion is anyone but Mitch. Anyone but the guy that clearly hasn't worked. It's the definition of insanity and both sides need to part.

I'm done watching Mitch play for the Bears. I know how it ends. If you've been paying attention to what i've been posting the past two years, i've been giving you all the play by play damn near to the T. Calling it every step of the way.

Everyone by now knows where Mitch leads you. Nowhere. I go with absolutely anyone else not named Josh Rosen with even the 1% chance that one of them can have some kind of career revival. Im hoping the whole season is a disaster and that everyone is gone, so really, it doesnt matter if its Mitch or not but im just tired of him. I dont want to watch the same thing again and again.

That's fair enough. You just just hope that they lose so that they can start a complete rebuild and hopefully be in a position to draft in the top 3 again and select the best available. Only this time hopefully they pick the right guy and focus on the offense the next couple drafts, instead of building an elite defense like last time.

 

[Anytime23]

That's fair enough. You just just hope that they lose so that they can start a complete rebuild and hopefully be in a position to draft in the top 3 again and select the best available. Only this time hopefully they pick the right guy and focus on the offense the next couple drafts, instead of building an elite defense like last time.

Agreed.

 

[DB012031]

Nagy has 2 years left on his contract. He signed a 5 year deal in 2018
We were 8-8 and more closer to 5-11 than 11-5.

Every bit as close to 11-5 as well. Fact is, still made the playoffs and a wide open dropped TD from possibly winning and going to the second round.

Fair point on the contract, but in reality, Nagy is coaching for his job this season. He either changes his philosophy/stubbornness and wins, thus getting extended or the Bears completely implode and he is fired.

 

[Leomaz]

Every bit as close to 11-5 as well. Fact is, still made the playoffs and a wide open dropped TD from possibly winning and going to the second round.

Fair point on the contract, but in reality, Nagy is coaching for his job this season. He either changes his philosophy/stubbornness and wins, thus getting extended or the Bears completely implode and he is fired.

Ok

 

[DB012031]

- The Bears don’t have a FULL compliment of picks this year. They don’t have a 4th rd.

- lol at “very close to 11-5”. They were closer to 6-10.

- The Bears have 3 quality fucking wins in 3 years.

- Bringing Mitch back is a terrible terrible idea.

- Fair, missed the 4th rounder but we still have the remaining picks, most importantly our 1,2,3 round picks, something we haven't had in years.
- Laugh all you want, we were that close to 11-5, still made the playoffs and were a dropped TD from potentially winning that first round game
- can't argue but again, still made playoffs twice, and had two very winnable games
- if the Bears feel they have 1 more run at it, its actually not a terrible idea. If the Bears feel like fuck it, let's tank, then just ride with Foles and play for a top pick in 2022

 

[Novoitus]

The King is coming back.

 

[vabearsfan15]

I dont resign Trubisky. Foles is paid for. Trubisky is not.

Trubisky played trash teams and we all saw how that looked against good teams. Foles didn't have that same luxury and played with an offensive line that wasn't playing well at all and had to deal with Patterson starting at RB in a game

I continue to look into trades and other FA options

Trubisky resigning here is a death sentence to the regime and they know that

I wouldn't blame the Oline for Foles as much as I would give Trubisky credit for helping elevate the play of the Oline. When he was in the lineup, we were averaging over 100 yards per game rushing and far more efficient as an offense. This isn't coincidental. Trubs moved better in the pocket than Foles, defenses had to account for the threat of him running, and he had better eye discipline down the field than check down Foles. Maybe he didn't play well against top competition, but the defense wasn't without blame. Plus, you aren't going to find too many guys to step in and be able to outscore the Saints or Packers.

Yes, you can continue to look into trades and FA, but my argument is you aren't going to find a better value. I can't think of one. I guess we may be stuck with Foles, but he was very uninspiring last year. It says alot when Trubisky comes in and immediately the offense does a 360.

 

[Spitta Andretti]

I wouldn't blame the Oline for Foles as much as I would give Trubisky credit for helping elevate the play of the Oline. When he was in the lineup, we were averaging over 100 yards per game rushing and far more efficient as an offense. This isn't coincidental. Trubs moved better in the pocket than Foles, defenses had to account for the threat of him running, and he had better eye discipline down the field than check down Foles. Maybe he didn't play well against top competition, but the defense wasn't without blame. Plus, you aren't going to find too many guys to step in and be able to outscore the Saints or Packers.

Yes, you can continue to look into trades and FA, but my argument is you aren't going to find a better value. I can't think of one. I guess we may be stuck with Foles, but he was very uninspiring last year. It says alot when Trubisky comes in and immediately the offense does a 360.

Foles at QB took the Saints to OT while Trubs led them to 9 pts. The line played better because of Mustipher and Bars holding their own. Foles had Coward out there

Why would you pay more money on mediocrity at the position if you already have it? Instead of Trubisky, you take a shot on someone else. Draft or FA.

 

[Adipost]

ofc not. I'm just saying, the overly emotional posters here like @BearsBud, @msadows, @dabears70 (those are the top three) are big time mitch lovers. one even bet on Mitch to be MVP one season.

 

[DC]

Every bit as close to 11-5 as well. Fact is, still made the playoffs and a wide open dropped TD from possibly winning and going to the second round.

Fair point on the contract, but in reality, Nagy is coaching for his job this season. He either changes his philosophy/stubbornness and wins, thus getting extended or the Bears completely implode and he is fired.

Win/Win? If I'm George, and who's to fucking say I'm not, I force Pace and Nagy to start their guy (Foles). I wouldn't waste any draft capital acquiring another QB these two penny stock pushers come up with. Next GM/HC going to need all these picks.

 

[DB012031]

Win/Win? If I'm George, and who's to fucking say I'm not, I force Pace and Nagy to start their guy (Foles). I wouldn't waste any draft capital acquiring another QB these two penny stock pushers come up with. Next GM/HC going to need all these picks.

Yea, that is definitely one of the primary options. Really, the bears need to have that deep internal conversation and ask themselves "do we try to run it back this next year to see if we can win it all OR is it time to really build a 5-7 year plan". If the decision is to try and win it all (and knowing that really any of the QB Trade options are meh at this point) bring back Mitch on a Marriota like deal (2 years) and use the draft for weapons and O-Line help and maybe take a flyer on a QB in the 5th - 7th rounds.

However, if the decision is to really rebuild:

• Cut everyone you can
• Tag and Trade AROB
• Find Trade Partners, if possible, for guys like Mack, Hicks, Goldman, Quinn, etc and acquire as many picks as you can
• Take a QB in Round 2 or 3, unless there is someone that start slipping in round one you absolutely love but try to stay with a BPA strategy.
  • Don't reach for a QB because you are also in basically tank mode as well, so build a solid line and weapons, go QB in 2022 then.
  • 2021 is a really good draft for line and WR and honestly top heavy at QB. Don't reach, go Line and WR
• Run with Foles at QB and hope around the mid season you are trading him to a contendor that needs a serviceable back up or a spot starter due to injury

 

[CHIBEAR]

I wouldn't blame the Oline for Foles as much as I would give Trubisky credit for helping elevate the play of the Oline. When he was in the lineup, we were averaging over 100 yards per game rushing and far more efficient as an offense. This isn't coincidental. Trubs moved better in the pocket than Foles, defenses had to account for the threat of him running, and he had better eye discipline down the field than check down Foles. Maybe he didn't play well against top competition, but the defense wasn't without blame. Plus, you aren't going to find too many guys to step in and be able to outscore the Saints or Packers.

Yes, you can continue to look into trades and FA, but my argument is you aren't going to find a better value. I can't think of one. I guess we may be stuck with Foles, but he was very uninspiring last year. It says alot when Trubisky comes in and immediately the offense does a 360.

No way Mitch didnt elevate the Oline or Montgomerys game .

Against GB the first time Monty broke a 57 yard run the second play of the bears first possession and that gave him and the oline some confidence as he was on his way to a 100 yard game . It had nothing to do with Mitch because once it became evident that they didnt need him to throw 40+ times a game and could move the ball on the ground thats exactly what we did.

Foles just didnt have the same opportunity and Pace and Nagy even acknowledge that .


You know who the player who got the most touches on team was heading into this year ?

Taric Cohen

Foles is the qb who was on the field as the Bears coaches and team tried to figure out who would they focus on getting the ball to after the Atl win. They started out with Patterson, Arob, and Graham trying to lean on the vets while the oline also struggled it wasnt until the bye week where they got the Oline sorted and seemed to shift from them vets to Monty, Mooney, and Kmet with the vets playing more complimentary roles to those guys.

If we can find someone better than Foles we should do it but people gave Mitch credit for the scheme that hid all his weakneses but the Saints quickly exposed that and he had no response .

 

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[vabearsfan15]

No way Mitch didnt elevate the Oline or Montgomerys game .

Against GB the first time Monty broke a 57 yard run the second play of the bears first possession and that gave him and the oline some confidence as he was on his way to a 100 yard game . It had nothing to do with Mitch because once it became evident that they didnt need him to throw 40+ times a game and could move the ball on the ground thats exactly what we did.

Foles just didnt have the same opportunity and Pace and Nagy even acknowledge that .


You know who the player who got the most touches on team was heading into this year ?

Taric Cohen

Foles is the qb who was on the field as the Bears coaches and team tried to figure out who would they focus on getting the ball to after the Atl win. They started out with Patterson, Arob, and Graham trying to lean on the vets while the oline also struggled it wasnt until the bye week where they got the Oline sorted and seemed to shift from them vets to Monty, Mooney, and Kmet with the vets playing more complimentary roles to those guys.

If we can find someone better than Foles we should do it but people gave Mitch credit for the scheme that hid all his weakneses but the Saints quickly exposed that and he had no response .

You can try to argue all you want, but the stats are really convincing. Every game Trubisky played in, both before and after his benching, aside from the Saints playoff game the offense ran for over 100 yards. Every game Foles played in, the offense ran under 100 yards.

Yes, the offense was working through things, but it simply could not find any sort of success under Foles. Defenses stacked the box against him, covered the short to intermediate plays, and were not threatened at all by the deep pass or Foles ability to escape the pocket.

There's no way to slice it last season except that the offense was far better under Trubisky last season than it was Foles. If you want to hold the play of Watson, Mahomes, and a very bad 2019 year against Trubisky, then go ahead. But when simply looking at the recent play of last season, Trubisky he played serviceably. If you have a better value option at QB on the market, let me know.

 

[Spitta Andretti]

You can try to argue all you want, but the stats are really convincing. Every game Trubisky played in, both before and after his benching, aside from the Saints playoff game the offense ran for over 100 yards. Every game Foles played in, the offense ran under 100 yards.

Yes, the offense was working through things, but it simply could not find any sort of success under Foles. Defenses stacked the box against him, covered the short to intermediate plays, and were not threatened at all by the deep pass or Foles ability to escape the pocket.

There's no way to slice it last season except that the offense was far better under Trubisky last season than it was Foles. If you want to hold the play of Watson, Mahomes, and a very bad 2019 year against Trubisky, then go ahead. But when simply looking at the recent play of last season, Trubisky he played serviceably. If you have a better value option at QB on the market, let me know.

Such a Trubisexual that he credits Mitch for other players production.

 

[Rob219_CBMB]

Yea, that is definitely one of the primary options. Really, the bears need to have that deep internal conversation and ask themselves "do we try to run it back this next year to see if we can win it all OR is it time to really build a 5-7 year plan". If the decision is to try and win it all (and knowing that really any of the QB Trade options are meh at this point) bring back Mitch on a Marriota like deal (2 years) and use the draft for weapons and O-Line help and maybe take a flyer on a QB in the 5th - 7th rounds.

However, if the decision is to really rebuild:

• Cut everyone you can
• Tag and Trade AROB
• Find Trade Partners, if possible, for guys like Mack, Hicks, Goldman, Quinn, etc and acquire as many picks as you can
• Take a QB in Round 2 or 3, unless there is someone that start slipping in round one you absolutely love but try to stay with a BPA strategy.
  • Don't reach for a QB because you are also in basically tank mode as well, so build a solid line and weapons, go QB in 2022 then.
  • 2021 is a really good draft for line and WR and honestly top heavy at QB. Don't reach, go Line and WR
• Run with Foles at QB and hope around the mid season you are trading him to a contendor that needs a serviceable back up or a spot starter due to injury

one thing...why bother with trying to make it work in 2021? as for tryin' to even be a contender, let's just let the motherfucker burn! just tank hard & fire everyone before season's end.

Nothing we can do to be any better than the record they just had.

 

[RubberBanMan]

Nagy at the very least should have been fired. They should be rebuilding/retooling right now. An aging defense on its last legs and an offense that can’t score with an “offensive minded” HC

he fucking sucks. And dont bring mitch back. Stop fucking starting mediocre quarter backs and going 8-8. I have zero confidence nagy coaches this team to a superbowl this year. That’s the ultimate goal right? It’s not happening. Start foles/rookie and take the high draft pick next year. Mitch can probably squeak out a couple more wins than foles over scrub teams and that doesn't help the bears long term. He practically saved nagy and pace’s job end of year when it appeared they were doomed (thanks mitch!)

does anybody really think the bears are just a derek carr away from a superbowl? Aside from a watson miracle...they need to just lose this year and get the best draft spot.

Just my unprofessional opinion of course.

 

[Rob219_CBMB]

Nagy at the very least should have been fired. They should be rebuilding/retooling right now. An aging defense on its last legs and an offense that can’t score with an “offensive minded” HC

he fucking sucks. And dont bring mitch back. Stop fucking starting mediocre quarter backs and going 8-8. I have zero confidence nagy coaches this team to a superbowl this year. That’s the ultimate goal right? It’s not happening. Start foles/rookie and take the high draft pick next year. Mitch can probably squeak out a couple more wins than foles over scrub teams and that doesn't help the bears long term. He practically saved nagy and pace’s job end of year when it appeared they were doomed (thanks mitch!)

does anybody really think the bears are just a derek carr away from a superbowl? Aside from a watson miracle...they need to just lose this year and get the best draft spot.

Just my unprofessional opinion of course.

Mitchell showed us that at least he has something and Nagy doesn't, look at what happened when Lazor took over PC.

 

[mecha]

you can keep Nagy in the mix, just don't let him call the offense. he blew the playoff game. you saw it. I saw it. we all saw it. Lazor probably isn't the answer either, you're not going to get "offensive guru" level performance, but that way it doesn't go completely off the rails. it shows how far the collective organization has their heads up their asses that they didn't make any moves to address that outside getting a new QB coach or whatever he's supposed to do.

there are no expectations for 2021. that's why you don't blow your load on an 8 pick trade. just draft someone, roll with Foles, or bring Trubisky back. new DC might get the defense to a place where it can pick up the slack again. if they can get within the realm of the 2018 defense I think they can win games. they got the kicker situation sorted out finally at least. LOL