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thats just outside our solar system, how many solar systems are there?
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thats just outside our solar system, how many solar systems are there?
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im not even talking about UFOS coming here right now, Im talking intelligent life outside of the earth. The lottery thing is fucking Special person.
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This has to be one of the worst comparisons for thinking whether or not there is life outside of the earth that is intelligent. you need to try harder.
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There are only two or three Goldilocks planets known to the best of my knowledge and that includes Earth. Could extraterrestrials have other bases of life? Perhaps, but that is a large assumption with no evidence to back it up.
And most of us have acknowledged that there is no reason extraterrestrials couldn't exist, we simply don't believe that they've been here.
And most of us have acknowledged that there is no reason extraterrestrials couldn't exist, we simply don't believe that they've been here.
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Thanks....again. For like the 5th time now, I never once said aliens don't exist...simply that they've never been here on Earth.
It's the basic test I always start out with in these discussions. All you gotta do is use the "I don't believe aliens have been here" line. Anyone who response with "but there's billions of planets!!!" usually doesn't know what they're talking about.
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Are you Special person? My lottery comparison had nothing to do with the probability of aliens in the universe, it was about the probability of aliens right here on earth.
But Ancient Aliens is...which is specifically why I'm discrediting it. Or is this too much for you to understand?
For like the 6th time now. I'm not trying to discredit anyone or anything who supports the belief of aliens. I'm only arguing against anyone or anything who supports the belief of aliens here on Earth.
Let me guess...you're gonna respond by either ignoring this or changing your original argument.
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Theres no proof another civilization would be more advanced or under advanced than we are. That is true, as we know it at the moment. The Universe is said to continuously expand, my real question would be if the Big Bang is the truth, where are we on the 'map' and how long has it been from the 1st spot of creation? If we're fairly 'new' to the Universe, than the galaxies that are far older would have an edge to be more advanced IF life formed. And visa versa if we're 'older' than most.
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According to big bang theorists:
Universe 13.75 billion
First Star 13.65 billion
First Galaxy 13.15 billion
Our Solar System 4.65 billion
However, the first planets were quite a while after the first galaxy. When? I'm not sure. Probably closer to the age of our solar system.
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Give or take, thats roughly 8 billion years from the 1st estimated galaxy to ours. Now without being naive, say even if life did evolve 3-4 billion years ago, and again, speculate only, that it progresses at our rate of advancements, that would be remarkable. Even 1 billion, hell, 100k yrs ahead of us would make us look like cavemen trying to make fire lol. If an intelligent race had such a start, it wouldnt surprise me if they could find us, or actually have. I would love to see us in another millennium.
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Woah woah woah there, that was the first Galaxy and our Solar System, that's apples to oranges.
It took much longer for the stars in those galaxies to develop planetary systems and for them to cool down and become hospitable.
Our Solar System is not a galaxy, it is a solar system. The Milky Way is a Galaxy.
And to answer the age of the Galaxy, it started in 1996 in Los Angeles, obviously.
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No, I didnt say our solar system is a galaxy lol. The 1st galaxy created is estimated at 13 Billion yrs ago. Our solar system was created nearly 8 billion years from that point. Remember, the Universe is continuously expanding, so as the first 8 Billion years passed, galaxies were forming prior to us at this point in time. What we dont know is how long exactly does the process for a galaxy 'package' to form, or how much is created at a time as the Universe expands.
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So if we break it down, since we dont know how long a galaxy actually takes to form, (Though I used to high of a number last time), or how many. So its a question which requires a hypothetical logic. Earth is estimated at 4.5 billion right? Thats 8.5 Billion between our start and the Big Bang. So if a galaxy 'package' takes say, 500 million years, thats 17 'packages' ahead of us at this point in time. How big are those 'packages' would be the next logical question.
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Im so tired it aint funny, but I hope Im making sense lol. Anyway, so what Im getting at is, if one of the earlier galaxies produced life, say 4 Billion years from the Big Bang, and that evolved into an intelligent lifeform, that said lifeform has a 4 Billion 'headstart', much like we would to anything after our creation. And if there is such a civilization with that much of an advantage in techology, it wouldnt surprise me if they could travel. Nor would it surprise me if theyre as intelligent as a cow lol
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The galaxy comes before the solar system. Unless extraterrestrials live on stars... The age of galaxies honestly doesn't matter.
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LOL at Jysen having no idea what he's talking about.
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Hence the term 'package'. Creation of a galaxy and everything within. Stars, Black Holes, Dark Matter, Solar Systems, Etc.. Should I be more specific and clarify Clusters of galaxies are created at the same time? And that not every galaxy is similar, as some are larger/smaller, contains more gases, no solar systems, etc.?
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The first solar system was probably around the time ours was created, much vlast to that date than to the first galaxy anyway. The solar systems don't form at the same time as the galaxy they are included in.
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Time does play a vital role. While we cant compare our evolution to a possible other, as it may progress faster or slower, the Time aspect is in regards to IF lifeforms had started on a system even 500 million years before us, then theres the chance of a headstart and possibility of being far more advanced to us, or again, as intelligent as a cow.
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This whole thread is stupid.
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