TV Show: Ancient Aliens

[Jntg4]

Time does play a vital role. While we cant compare our evolution to a possible other, as it may progress faster or slower, the Time aspect is in regards to IF lifeforms had started on a system even 500 million years before us, then theres the chance of a headstart and possibility of being far more advanced to us, or again, as intelligent as a cow.

Sure, but there is no eight billion year difference you referred to.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

What the **** are you even talking about? shut up.

why u mad?

you do realize houston never said aliens didnt exist right?

 

[FirstTimer]

Jysen, stop.

 

[Jysen]

Well thats why I just simplified it by combining the whole process into 'package'. We obviously dont know exactly how long it actually can or does take for the all the pieces to fall into place. As for the 8 Billion, If the Universe is estimated at 13 Billion old, we're only 4.5 Billion young, theres rather a huge gap of time since the Big Bang to us. Of course this doesnt mean Aliens have been here and AA's theories are remotely correct, just saying theres a good possibility something may have a headstart.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Comparing our evolution to another possible intelligent lifeform is quite ignorant. Our existence is but a blink in the eyes of the universe. Our 'knowledge' of the known universe is equivalent to a preschooler. People in general are quick to shun any possibility because they can only see our current limitations. Our progress is hindered by our own ignorance toward eachother. Could you actually imagine what we could accomplish if we actually worked together as one species and not in competition?

i understand what you're trying to say with the bolded but the comparison doesnt really make sense...a preschooler compared to what?


as for your last point...i'd say we work together more than we used to in certain situations

one function of human progress is globalization....of course with that we have a bunch of other crap like nuclear threats

but now especially in the space race we are looking more to collaborate than compete imo

the international space station is being built and worked on by a various amount of countries...

jobs,science, all of that isnt local anymore, or even national..its really for the world(or certain groups of countries)

ya you had trade in the past..but its so much different now than back then because it took weeks and months to travel and trade and now you can do it at the click of a button

lotta countries left in the cold though, but part of the issue is that they're not developed so they cant substantially contribute to,say, the international space station

/random rambling

 

[Jntg4]

Well thats why I just simplified it by combining the whole process into 'package'. We obviously dont know exactly how long it actually can or does take for the all the pieces to fall into place. As for the 8 Billion, If the Universe is estimated at 13 Billion old, we're only 4.5 Billion young, theres rather a huge gap of time since the Big Bang to us. Of course this doesnt mean Aliens have been here and AA's theories are remotely correct, just saying theres a good possibility something may have a headstart.

Big Bang to us does not mean anything. It needs a lot more time than that to form a solar system!!!

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Give or take, thats roughly 8 billion years from the 1st estimated galaxy to ours. Now without being naive, say even if life did evolve 3-4 billion years ago, and again, speculate only, that it progresses at our rate of advancements, that would be remarkable. Even 1 billion, hell, 100k yrs ahead of us would make us look like cavemen trying to make fire lol. If an intelligent race had such a start, it wouldnt surprise me if they could find us, or actually have. I would love to see us in another millennium.

lol if we make it there

 

[Jysen]

Sadly, those Countries that cant contribute, is it safe to say the rest of the Worlds fault to some degree? Despite the collective sharing of knowledge, Countries/Goverments will always safeguard certain knowledge. In our world, easily understandable, which imo, continues to hold us back in many regards. Though they are trying in many ways as well, which gives some hope for Mankind. But its a long way before we ever proclaim ourselves as a single race over what country we're from.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Sadly, those Countries that cant contribute, is it safe to say the rest of the Worlds fault to some degree? Despite the collective sharing of knowledge, Countries/Goverments will always safeguard certain knowledge. In our world, easily understandable, which imo, continues to hold us back in many regards. Though they are trying in many ways as well, which gives some hope for Mankind. But its a long way before we ever proclaim ourselves as a single race over what country we're from.

well there are multiple reasons we have developing countries...a bit of it is mistakes from the past by other countries..but there's more to it than that

of course we're a long way from getting to a single earth race..but in relative terms we have gotten much closer in the last 100 years and will continue to get closer

 

[derosabomb]

lol this thread turned into people just spewing about shit they have no idea about..

 

[Jntg4]

^It was from the very beginning, it didn't turn into it lol

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

lol this thread turned into people just spewing about shit they have no idea about..

thank you for your contribution


come again

:yep:

 

[Jysen]

@Code: Definitely, we've improved toward a unified race, but still so far away. We've made significant strides, but Mankind continues to be destructive toward eachother and for lack of a better word, power hungry. Its hard to imagine a time when we wont be killing eachother for a resource. It may actually take something drastic like a WW3 to push us on the edge of extinction before we realize how to work as a single species. If we do that, the possibilities are indeed endless if we aint all dead after WW3.

 

[Jysen]

Part 1

Big Bang to us does not mean anything. It needs a lot more time than that to form a solar system!!!

:facepalm: As I can not copy and paste from wiki, heres a nice tidbit that I had the pleasure of writing down so I can text it here, courtesy of Wiki.

 

[Jysen]

Part 2

Formation of our Solar System: 8 Billion Years. Finally, objects on the scale of our Solar System form. Our Sun is a late generation star, incorporating the debris from several generations of earlier stars, and formed about 4.56 billion years ago, or roughly 8 to 9 billion years AFTER the Big Bang.

 

[Jysen]

Well now, isnt this an interesting conundrum. So according to the Big Bang timeline, theres at least 8 Billion year gap from the Big Bang theory. (See? Mathematics is Fun!) And according to you, it takes longer than from the Big Bang (13.65 Billion Years ago) to form a Solar System. So we're not in a Solar System now? Please, go back to making useless threads where you can make smartass comments about Dew and me. Especially when neither of us has stated we believe in AA's theories. Good Day to you.

 

[Jntg4]

Well now, isnt this an interesting conundrum. So according to the Big Bang timeline, theres at least 8 Billion year gap from the Big Bang theory. (See? Mathematics is Fun!) And according to you, it takes longer than from the Big Bang (13.65 Billion Years ago) to form a Solar System. So we're not in a Solar System now? Please, go back to making useless threads where you can make smartass comments about Dew and me. Especially when neither of us has stated we believe in AA's theories. Good Day to you.

What the **** are you smoking?

Yes it takes longer than it took for the Big Bang to occur for a Solar System to form... that is why our solar systems and others did form until quite some time after. I think you are fucking high since nothing I said even implies that we aren't in a solar system.

Yes there is a gap between Big Band and our Solar System because the 8 billion years in between had to form the galaxy and then the solar system.

The SAME PROCESS occurred elsewhere taking the approximately same amount of time. THE OTHER SOLAR SYSTEMS WERE NOT FORMED AS SOON AS THE FUCKING BIG BANG OCCURRED!!! HENCE I SAID IT TAKES LONGER THAN THE BIG BANG FOR A SOLAR SYSTEM TO FORM!!! GET OFF THE LSD!!!

Some people are just so fucking dumb.

 

[Jysen]

Which brings it all back around to the same damn point. In those 8 billion years from the Big Bang and the creation of our galaxy, much has been created. Nowhere is it stated everything formed instantly, nor does everything form at the exact same rate. Just because it took us 4.5 Billion years, doesnt mean it takes the same time for everywhere else. So once again, If any lifeform had evolved into an intelligence species, even say 500 million years ago, theres a massive head start.

 

[DewsSox79]

what the **** happened in this thread?

id rather go back to the topic and have to listen to FT and Houston than to see these convos im seeing now. Wtf?

 

[Jysen]

Ok. I apologize Dew. Ive been having to much fun instigating to get blood vessels to burst. Was fun tho..