Unless Cubs win a lot right now they will be sellers

[TL1961]

They should just let fans bat against Taillon. Raise money and use it for future payroll.

Kids would be doubling off the guy.

 

[Hawkeye OG]

Nothing really new here but figured I’d post it. Really curious to see what comes of Stroman

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1681481470202855424

 

[TL1961]

Is this OT? IGT stuff.

Michael Fulmer has retired 4 straight batters and Suzuki and Wisdom have homered. And now Suzuki has delivered another RBI.

 

[Castor76]

Could have used some of this offense the past few games.

 

[Diehardfan]

They should just let fans bat against Taillon. Raise money and use it for future payroll.

Kids would be doubling off the guy.

Another one of Deadhead Jed's intelligent signings and this one they're gonna be stuck with for awhile.

 

[jrsamu]

Unfortunately with pretty much all free agent signings, the first year in is usually either subpar or a write-off. Throw Taillon into that bucket as well. He follows a long list of failed Cub free agent starting pitchers going back to 2017.

So given that and Stroman's track record, do we really think signing him for 4 years at age 32 given his track record is a prudent move? And if they do, what does that say about the alleged revamp of the farm system? I would rather have Hendricks for 4 years at that price than Stroman.

LOL - as soon as I criticize Suzuki and point out the long-term signing hangover for Hoerner and Happ, they all have big games.

 

[Szlachcic]

Another one of Deadhead Jed's intelligent signings and this one they're gonna be stuck with for awhile.

Make that two. Mancini and Taillon. I'm probably forgetting somebody..

 

[TL1961]

Make that two. Mancini and Taillon. I'm probably forgetting somebody..

Maybe Mancini should pitch and Taillon should play first.

 

[Diehardfan]

Make that two. Mancini and Taillon. I'm probably forgetting somebody..

A few.....every guy he brought in but Bellinger and Swanson have been a bust or very close to it. Maybe Tauchman gets a pass but he's 32 and there won't be a lot of interest in him either. I'm not sure if Hoyer was pressured into this mess but at the moment they are marching 12 or 13 guys out there on the backside of their careers with little or no value. Not exactly the kind of rebuild I was hoping for.

 

[Szlachcic]

To ad to all this. Why Cubs started all of those hasbens knowing they not going anywhere ? Why not bring up in coming young ones so they can learn here thru their mistakes, getting experience moving forward.. Just look at what the Reds have done with their youngsters.

 

[Szlachcic]

Maybe Mancini should pitch and Taillon should play first.

Nah, the results will be the same..

 

[TL1961]

To ad to all this. Why Cubs started all of those hasbens knowing they not going anywhere ? Why not bring up in coming young ones so they can learn here thru their mistakes, getting experience moving forward.. Just look at what the Reds have done with their youngsters.

Their young guys that are (hopefully) their future weren’t ready for MLB to start this year. That would not help.

But I agree the mix they had sucked.

 

[knoxville7]

Their young guys that are (hopefully) their future weren’t ready for MLB to start this year. That would not help.

But I agree the mix they had sucked.

I dunno, I think the mix they brought in are doing exactly what the cubs more or less expected them to do, sans taillon

And bellinger I would say has massively exceeded those expectations.

I guess I really don’t get all the fuss over guys like Mancini when they were never good players to begin with. They were brought in to be 1 year filler players to bridge the gap to the youngsters. Like why are we making this a big deal???

 

[TL1961]

I dunno, I think the mix they brought in are doing exactly what the cubs more or less expected them to do, sans taillon

And bellinger I would say has massively exceeded those expectations.

I guess I really don’t get all the fuss over guys like Mancini when they were never good players to begin with. They were brought in to be 1 year filler players to bridge the gap to the youngsters. Like why are we making this a big deal???

Well, you’re saying they are what we expected and i sm saying they’re not good, so we are saying the same thing.

I agree it is as expected. Poor.

I am excluding Bellinger from that group. He is doing exactly as the Cubs hoped and needed.

 

[Probie2429]

Most drafts need 5-7 years to know what you got. Look at Steele. He was drafted in 2014 and he wasn’t promoted to majors until 2020. It’s only been a couple years since they decided to blow it up so we’re still looking at 3-5 years for recent drafts to start paying dividends. There has been emphasis on college players over high school which in theory should cut down the time those players make the majors or are cut loose.

 

[knoxville7]

Well, you’re saying they are what we expected and i sm saying they’re not good, so we are saying the same thing.

I agree it is as expected. Poor.

I am excluding Bellinger from that group. He is doing exactly as the Cubs hoped and needed.

While the cubs hoped this would be the production bellinger provides, the cubs weren’t expecting this level of production I don’t think after his two previous seasons.

And to exclude him is to exclude the major hit from this past offseason signings. Not exactly fair to do when evaluating the front office.

 

[jrsamu]

The lineup is not good enough. The bullpen is not good enough. Amaya has been a very pleasant surprise and perhaps give them another prospect that nobody was really counting on. Bellinger has been a huge positive in a lineup that still has a fair number of holes. Subtract him and that void continues on offense next year.

 

[TL1961]

While the cubs hoped this would be the production bellinger provides, the cubs weren’t expecting this level of production I don’t think after his two previous seasons.

And to exclude him is to exclude the major hit from this past offseason signings. Not exactly fair to do when evaluating the front office.

I am not grading the front office on just the others. I am very happy with taking the chance on Bellinger and it paid off. Exactly as hoped.

 

[knoxville7]

I am not grading the front office on just the others. I am very happy with taking the chance on Bellinger and it paid off. Exactly as hoped.

Difference between hoping and expecting

But yes, he’s certainly provided them with a valuable trade deadline piece

 

[Szlachcic]

Geezz, Wisdom 2 errors in 2 innings, sofar..