Updates to the Kane situation

Is #88 a Dumpster Fire?


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I understand that you've had bad experiences that you'd like to project on this situation, but don't get out over your skis. There is no excuse for rape. And let's stop faulting women for getting raped. It's not like deep down inside of every man there's a rapist lurking, waiting for the right amount of booze and stimulation to be unleashed.

Well....I'm just saying educate women that if you try this a dozen times you are going to get fucked.
 

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Its not a question of right or wrong. Its wrong.

Just wake the **** up and don't play games, not all men are gentleman, not all men can be trusted. Some even have GHP.
 

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I don't know what to think of this situation. The details that are beginning to emerge don't look good for Kane (the bites and scratches). On the other hand, the story about the girl going into another room and then Kane just following in there and raping her - while her friend waits patiently in another room? - doesn't sound right either.

Either way, more damned stupid behavior from Kane.
 

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I don't know what to think of this situation. The details that are beginning to emerge don't look good for Kane (the bites and scratches). On the other hand, the story about the girl going into another room and then Kane just following in there and raping her - while her friend waits patiently in another room? - doesn't sound right either.

Either way, more damned stupid behavior from Kane.

I wonder how shoopster would break this down...
 

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People are smart. They can read. This thread opened normally and the tribar started his trolling nonsense before I made a single post. You have your little posse that defends you but I'm guessing most here are tired of your crap and/or have you on ignore.

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nope... i think Patrick Kane even if proven innocent will get shot gunned from the organization due to past history...Back to the days of Blackhawks mediocrity i foresee unless somehow they can convince Stamkos to sign in offseason
 

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I'll just say this. These jocks take a chance every time they sleep with a woman that they pick up. Because they are fucking targets of women looking for money and notoriety. This isn't surprising but if a woman agrees to come home with a guy, what does she expect? Sure just say no means no but at the same time, they themselves put their ass in his home.

If there isn't a witness to a "rape" if that is what he will be charged with or evidence of a drug in the "victim's" system, this probably will be he said, she said and end up with a pay-off.
 

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I'll just say this. These jocks take a chance every time they sleep with a woman that they pick up. Because they are fucking targets of women looking for money and notoriety. This isn't surprising but if a woman agrees to come home with a guy, what does she expect? Sure just say no means no but at the same time, they themselves put their ass in his home.

If there isn't a witness to a "rape" if that is what he will be charged with or evidence of a drug in the "victim's" system, this probably will be he said, she said and end up with a pay-off.

Another poster condoning rape. Disgusting.
 

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I'll just say this. These jocks take a chance every time they sleep with a woman that they pick up. Because they are fucking targets of women looking for money and notoriety. This isn't surprising but if a woman agrees to come home with a guy, what does she expect? Sure just say no means no but at the same time, they themselves put their ass in his home.

If there isn't a witness to a "rape" if that is what he will be charged with or evidence of a drug in the "victim's" system, this probably will be he said, she said and end up with a pay-off.

Absolutely repulsive.
 

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Remember the Duke rape case? Presumed guilty right off of the bat until the evidence finally came in. Didn't stop a big time ruin of some kids reputation, though.
 

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Remember the Duke rape case? Presumed guilty right off of the bat until the evidence finally came in. Didn't stop a big time ruin of some kids reputation, though.

Yeah, this girl better have gotten raped dammit, otherwise people will think kane is a drunk idiot with no self control, all due to false accusations.
 
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I'll just say this. These jocks take a chance every time they sleep with a woman that they pick up. Because they are fucking targets of women looking for money and notoriety. This isn't surprising but if a woman agrees to come home with a guy, what does she expect? Sure just say no means no but at the same time, they themselves put their ass in his home.

Holy fucking shit, going to another person's house alone is not consenting to sex.
 

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Even then, these can easily be explained away. Friends can lie and scars on the suspect can come from anything. This is why I don't see an arrest or a conviction. My biggest concern is the front office overreacting and cutting/trading him. But then again, I don't know everything about the case.

You'd be surprised how little is needed for an arrest and (used to be) a conviction. Up until very recently, rape was the only crime that you could get a conviction on without ANY physical evidence whatsoever. That's changed quite a bit in the last decade or so, but if you've got a scratch on you and the woman you had sex with has your semen in her, that's more than enough probable cause for an arrest, in the eyes of the law.

Remember, the police and prosecutor only need probable cause to arrest you. They don't need proof beyond a reasonable doubt, although few prosecutors will seek charges on a case they don't know they can prove.
 

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Holy fucking shit, going to another person's house alone is not consenting to sex.

Agreed. I'd like for this whole "What did she think she was getting herself into" line of thought to go away in these instances. A woman, or man, has the right to withdraw consent any time before or during a sexual act.
 
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