Updates to the Kane situation

[BlackHawkPaul]

Why do you think that?

Too many ways to spin anything he says about the situation.
"We're disappointed but hopeful,"

Hopeful of what? Disappointed with what?
His comments could be well intended, but will be dissected.

 

[HeHateMe]

No, they can hash it out in the donator thread, a forum neither of them have access to.

Best post in this thread.

 

[italianbeef]

"Disappointed that PK might be a rapist, hopeful that he is not" I suppose.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Best post in this thread.

I still need to resolve my issues with Gus in the Sox forum.

 

[Scoot26]

I still need to resolve my issues with Gus in the Sox forum.

I need to resolve all my issues in the Admin Forum.

 

[Ares]

Too many ways to spin anything he says about the situation.
"We're disappointed but hopeful,"

Hopeful of what? Disappointed with what?
His comments could be well intended, but will be dissected.

Disappointed he raped her.... hopeful they can draft the offspring....

^^^ das kind of spin

 

[Joker85]

Too many ways to spin anything he says about the situation.
"We're disappointed but hopeful,"

Hopeful of what? Disappointed with what?
His comments could be well intended, but will be dissected.

I would think it's painfully obvious. Disappointed in the entire situation. Hopeful that he is innocent and not a rapist. What other way could it be read?

 

[CRM 114]

I would think it's painfully obvious. Disappointed in the entire situation. Hopeful that he is innocent and not a rapist. What other way could it be read?

It can be interpreted many different ways though. Disappointed he raped her but hopeful he gets away with? Disappointed at police for investigating him and hopeful that they'll leave him alone? Disappointed of the accuser and hopeful that Kane countersues? I'll admit the last two are highly unlikely but "disappointed but hopeful" is extremely vague and can mean numerous different things.

 

[The Hawk]

How can you make that claim without knowing any details other than it's a famous athlete and a girl who probably isn't?

I said that it reminds me of the Kobe thing is all. Two big time superstars in a he said, she said situation. I know that Kobe settled the case and I think that eventually Kane will settle the thing also. Do you disagree with that?

 

[The Hawk]

What did the Kobe case remind you of?

Pretty much nothing. Of course there have been a lot of star athletes who have raped women and others who were accused of raping women who were only looking to score some money. Who knows what Kane and this woman did or didn't? No one knows do they?

 

[The Hawk]

I think it's pretty funny how you're still trying to rack up your post count, little one.

Dear Tribar,

I am having a conversation. You should try it sometime.

 

[HeHateMe]

Dear Tribar,

I am having a conversation. You should try it sometime.

Lol, everybody is asleep when you are having "conversations" with them right now. :rofl:

 

[CRM 114]

Dear Tribar,

I am having a conversation. You should try it sometime.

Believe me, I have many times.

I was refering to you trying to rack up your post count by quoting each post individually though.

 

[DMelt36]

I said that it reminds me of the Kobe thing is all. Two big time superstars in a he said, she said situation. I know that Kobe settled the case and I think that eventually Kane will settle the thing also. Do you disagree with that?

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, based on past instances of this nature, I would agree with that. Still feel like declaring parallels between the two is premature, as my assertion that this case ultimately settling is largely an uninformed one with so few details being reported.

 

[mikita's helmet]

Because there's typically so much gray area in any of these types of cases that, IMO, I don't think he's going to be convicted (and perhaps not even charged) with a crime. Again, please note that is just my largely uninformed opinion because so few details of this case have been made public. But going off of that assertion, I don't think Kane is going to have any serious legal issues from this incident. I think the team will hit him with a lengthy suspension and an ultimatum to not generate any more bad PR for the team, and he'll return to the team when it's all done.

I don't think he'll be suspended if he doesn't have any serious legal issues. If he's charged with a crime, the team may suspend him then, until it's legally resolved. If things don't look good they may Mike Richards him, and void his K. If he's convicted of any crime, he's toast. If he's charged but not convicted, he'll be on a very short leash. Best thing he can do is place himself in rehab, right now. Go to youtube and search for Patrick Kane drunk. I've never seen another prominent athlete publicly intoxicated as often as Kane. Not even close. You'd never see Keith or Toews in the situations that Kane seems to find himself on a regular basis. They know they have to much to lose.

 

[mikita's helmet]

I think the main reason the Kings acted so quickly to release Voynov was because it happened around the same time that the Ray Rice/Adrian Peterson drama was going on and they didn't want the bad publicity that the Ravens and Vikings were getting.

Also wasn't Voynov arrested immediately, while Kane has yet to be arrested (and maybe never will be)

I don't think they released Voynov for a long time, which is why they had salary cap issues last year. They released Richards immediately, so they could take his overpriced K off the cap, unlike Voynov, who they were hoping would return to the team at a later date.

 

[DMelt36]

The NHL/Blackhawks need nothing further to suspend Kane.

I am thoroughly surprised he is still on the roster.

Not that I am assuming guilt... but Voynov got a very different treatment.

Don't think the Voynov comparison is quite apples-to-apples, though. Voynov's wife (girlfirend? I forget.) showed up to the hospital with a large cut that required stitches because she was pushed into a TV, among other injuries. (Seriously, go read that stuff. Voynov is a fucking scumbag for what he did to her.) While Kane may end up being just as guilty, the physical damage from a sexual assault/rape may not be as obvious as the ones that Voynov inflicted.

I don't think he'll be suspended if he doesn't have any serious legal issues. If he's charged with a crime, the team may suspend him then, until it's legally resolved. If things don't look good they may Mike Richards him, and void his K. If he's convicted of any crime, he's toast. If he's charged but not convicted, he'll be on a very short leash. Best thing he can do is place himself in rehab, right now. Go to youtube and search for Patrick Kane drunk. I've never seen another prominent athlete publicly intoxicated as often as Kane. Not even close. You'd never see Keith or Toews in the situations that Kane seems to find himself on a regular basis. They know they have to much to lose.

That's why I think Kane is going to be suspended by the team, if the judicial system doesn't take care of that for the team. We'll see what happens though. Got a feeling we're a long, long, long way from the end of this season. Feels like it could carry over into the regular season, really.

 

[CRM 114]

I don't think they released Voynov for a long time, which is why they had salary cap issues last year. They released Richards immediately, so they could take his overpriced K off the cap, unlike Voynov, who they were hoping would return to the team at a later date.

I swear he was released the moment the Kings found out. I could be wrong though.

 

[mikita's helmet]

That's why I think Kane is going to be suspended by the team, if the judicial system doesn't take care of that for the team. We'll see what happens though. Got a feeling we're a long, long, long way from the end of this season. Feels like it could carry over into the regular season, really.

We'll see about a suspension. I think if he puts himself into rehab, now, that could mitigate a lot of the bad feelings that management feels about Kane sullying the family-friendly image that MacDonaugh (sic?) and the NHL are trying to project. Definitely going to carry over into the regular season.

 

[mikita's helmet]

I swear he was released the moment the Kings found out. I could be wrong though.

He was suspended. They got salary cap relief for the 2014-15 two months into last season in late November 2014. They were going to be responsible for this year's and the following year's K till he injured himself playing tennis.


L.A. Kings suspend Slava Voynov, whose salary doesn’t count against the cap June 24, 2015


The Kings suspended Slava Voynov several weeks ago because the defenseman suffered a non-hockey injury, a team spokesman confirmed Wednesday. Voynov was suspended by the NHL indefinitely in the wake of a domestic violence incident at his Redondo Beach home last October.

The 25-year-old Russian tore his right Achilles tendon, reportedly while playing tennis, and appeared at a pre-trial court appearance April 1 on crutches. His trial on charges of felony domestic violence against his wife, Marta Varlamova, is set for July 6 in Superior Court in Torrance.

The Kings’ move means his contract won’t count against the team’s salary cap. His contract would carry a $4.166 million salary-cap hit for the next four seasons. The league suspended him with pay after his arrest in the early-morning hours of Oct. 20.

A police officer testified Dec. 16 at Voynov’s preliminary hearing that Varlamova said her husband punched her in the face during an argument at a Halloween party. She also said he choked after the couple returned to their home, threw her to the floor and kicked her repeatedly.

Voynov also pushed her into a wall-mounted TV, which resulted in a gash above her left eye, which required several stitches to close. Voynov was arrested after he took Varlamova to an emergency room to be treated for her injuries, which included a 1 1/2-inch cut above her eye.

Voynov entered a not-guilty plea Dec. 29.

http://www.insidesocal.com/kings/20...ynov-who-salary-doesnt-count-against-the-cap/