Updates to the Kane situation

[DMelt36]

So your feeling is that he overstepped journalistic ethics with his own opinion on the subject asked of him by two guys that participate on many roundtable shows?


Not sure if I'm on board 100% there.
I think bias can play into opinions as well as prejudices.

I spent some time studying journalism back in the day, and it helped me when I was a grad student working on my thesis documentary. Every decision you make, whether it's editing a film or writing an article can weigh heavily on bias or your omission of it. Its a very difficult line to tow.

Way to add to your posts after I quoted you. Someone should ban you.

I agree that it's a difficult line to tow, but I think it's something that journalists become quite efficient at handling. Think of all the people in the world that are making news, and then think about how many of them suck as human beings. Journalists have to deal with people like that all the time. It's their job. They have to learn how to handle that line or they lose their job (or become a talking head on cable news/ESPN!)

 

[biscuit_in_the_basket]

I guess I should clarify that to say that having an opinion on something does not necessarily mean you have a bias. It certainly can result in that, but it is far from a lock.

That is kind of my thought on it as well. Have to look at the whole of the conversation to find out which influences which.

 

[biscuit_in_the_basket]

On a side note, I did not read the last SportsMockery article posted, the one about Graham skewing the information, but are they still hanging on the thought that it was fishy that the accuser hired an attorney to make her look bad? If they did, they really show (their already showing) stupidity of things. If anyone does not know what she hired an attorney then they really should look up at how these things work and, from a civil case standpoint, that having a lawyer forces communication through the lawyer....which is common.

 

[DMelt36]

On a side note, I did not read the last SportsMockery article posted, the one about Graham skewing the information, but are they still hanging on the thought that it was fishy that the accuser hired an attorney to make her look bad? If they did, they really show (their already showing) stupidity of things. If anyone does not know what she hired an attorney then they really should look up at how these things work and, from a civil case standpoint, that having a lawyer forces communication through the lawyer....which is common.

Haven't seen them talk about the accuser at all lately, seems like they've really taken to blasting Graham more than anything else recently.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Way to add to your posts after I quoted you. Someone should ban you.

I agree that it's a difficult line to tow, but I think it's something that journalists become quite efficient at handling. Think of all the people in the world that are making news, and then think about how many of them suck as human beings. Journalists have to deal with people like that all the time. It's their job. They have to learn how to handle that line or they lose their job (or become a talking head on cable news/ESPN!)

Go for it.
It's not like reading all 20+ pages that we're going to glean anything new from certain members of the peanut gallery attempting to contribute.

 

[DMelt36]

Go for it.
It's not like reading all 20+ pages that we're going to glean anything new from certain members of the peanut gallery attempting to contribute.

Yeah, but I'm in the middle of a real boring week so I need some entertainment.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Yeah, but I'm in the middle of a real boring week so I need some entertainment.

Plenty of conjecture to go around in this thread.

 

[DMelt36]

Plenty of conjecture to go around in this thread.

Secret: That's what one of the C's in "CCS" stands for

 

[ClydeLee]

"A person who, let's face it, also has a bit of a track record. If you were to ask me when I woke up this morning to name three people in sports....Uh, I'm gonna tell you today that somebody's going to be investigated for rape, how long would it take for you to get to Patrick Kane?"

This doesn't make sense

 

[winos5]

Secret: That's what one of the C's in "CCS" stands for

Can't help but think CCS is missing a "T" for trolling.

 

[italianbeef]

This doesn't make sense

I think he's trying to say "Someone in the sports world is being investigated for rape. Three guesses as to who." and Kane would be among them.

This is from a radio interview, which is why it wasn't well-written prose.

 

[italianbeef]

It's only a bias if it affects his reporting, in my mind. Until someone can prove that, I think those are just his opinions. You can think someone is a shitty person and still cover them fairly. That's why he has editors above him to make sure he's not working purely out of confirmation bias.

Unless the editors agree with him. I mean, you have newspapers, magazines, television networks that are heavily tilted to the left and to the right. They all have editors who decide what is news.

 

[DMelt36]

Unless the editors agree with him. I mean, you have newspapers, magazines, television networks that are heavily tilted to the left and to the right. They all have editors who decide what is news.

Now you're piling up the hypotheticals, and that's not a very solid ground for an argument. Granted, that's all we have for much of this right now.

 

[Samurai]

Unless the editors agree with him. I mean, you have newspapers, magazines, television networks that are heavily tilted to the left and to the right. They all have editors who decide what is news.

...and which way to tilt. Anyone who thinks "journalism" is unbiased is completely kidding themselves. I'm not speaking of just those involved in the case at hand, but...wait for it...

 

[Sunbiz1]

Rape kits do not take this long to process.

 

[DMelt36]

Rape kits do not take this long to process.

Well perhaps there are more things to be investigated than just that.

 

[TCD]

Rape kits do not take this long to process.

It varies like everything else in the world and it varies state by state. Not as if the forensics world stops the thousands of paper work for lab tests on their desks to fast track the one in this case. And they have to go through a lot of different hands.
This is delicate stuff. Are you in a rush to have access to the information which effects you in no way what so ever or are you hinting at some sort of conspiracy hidden agenda? Hasnt been that long anyways since the story hit the news. What has it been 2-3 weeks now? This is going to be a very long drawn out process as it should be. The information from the rape kit at this point is between the parties involved not for the general populaces entertainment.

 

[Tjodalv]

Rape kits do not take this long to process.

You know this why?

 

[biscuit_in_the_basket]

Rape kits do not take this long to process.

Tell that to those that have been waiting years.

 

[theOHIOSTATE!]

I'll just say this. These jocks take a chance every time they sleep with a woman that they pick up. Because they are fucking targets of women looking for money and notoriety. This isn't surprising but if a woman agrees to come home with a guy, what does she expect? Sure just say no means no but at the same time, they themselves put their ass in his home.

If there isn't a witness to a "rape" if that is what he will be charged with or evidence of a drug in the "victim's" system, this probably will be he said, she said and end up with a pay-off.

Those boys went home and stayed with and even showered with Jerry Sandusky.

Many even begged their mothers to take part in 2nd mile events.....

Obviously they were just asking for it.

This is precisely your logic.


I really hope after reading this you are a A+ gimmick account; you cannot be serious. I've had dozens of people come over to my place and most of the time there was no expectation of any sexual act taking place.....when was the last time you have a healthy social life bro?