We need to clear some things up on here

[Desperado34]

He was surrounded by exceptional talent the last two seasons and did nothing with it. He actually regressed.

Correction: trestmans offense regressed..


Which he has done at every NFL stop as coordinator.

 

[FirstTimer]

Correction: trestmans offense regressed..

Bc it was being lead by Cutler, difficult for any offense to progress when it's being lead by a QB who is known for turning the ball over.

 

[Desperado34]

Bc it was being lead by Cutler

Cutler led the offense 10 years ago when trestman last coached in the NFL before the Bears hiring?

Trestman has been a failure at every NFL stop. His offenses have always regressed going into year two, and only once has he made it to year three as a coordinator.

He's so bad that the Ravens hired him to run another coordinators offense. NOT his own.

 

[Broc]

I love how Cutler is never responsible for his own decision making and performance to despbro and the rest of the Cutler nuthuggers. It's always someone else that's to blame for Cutler continuing to make boneheaded mistakes and failing to realize all that potential.

Is it Cutler's fault he threw the ball directly into the belly of the NT to lose the Bills game? Nope, it's all on Trestman because he apparently is controlling Cutler like a game of Madden and forcing him to make Special person decisions and inaccurate throws...:bizarro:

What a joke.

Good players transcend systems and make the players around them better. But in Cutler's case it's the exact opposite. He apparently needs a top 5 defense, HOF players at every position around him on offense, a HOF coaching staff, and also needs to to be game planned out of the game as much as possible in an effort to minimize his mental mistakes.

The Bears essentially paid $126 million for a guy that needs to be coddled and game planned around like he's some scrub rookie. WHAT A DEAL!!!

In hindsight they would of been better off just keeping Orton. It's not like Cutler brings anything special to the table.

 

[theOHIOSTATE!]

Cutler led the offense 10 years ago when trestman last coached in the NFL before the Bears hiring?

Trestman has been a failure at every NFL stop. His offenses have always regressed going into year two, and only once has he made it to year three as a coordinator.

He's so bad that the Ravens hired him to run another coordinators offense. NOT his own.

Not to be that guy, but you are aware that Trestman sucking and Can'tler sucking are not mutually exclusive. You seem to believe that by proving Trestman isn't some top offensive mind, that absolves Can'tler of responsibility that he bears given his horrendous play last yr.

 

[Hbkrusso]

Not to be that guy, but you are aware that Trestman sucking and Can'tler sucking are not mutually exclusive. You seem to believe that by proving Trestman isn't some top offensive mind, that absolves Can'tler of responsibility that he bears given his horrendous play last yr.

his play wasn't horrendous his turnovers were sure but outside the turnovers cutler had a decent year

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Thread still sucks, minus a few posters.

 

[Desperado34]

Not to be that guy, but you are aware that Trestman sucking and Can'tler sucking are not mutually exclusive. You seem to believe that by proving Trestman isn't some top offensive mind, that absolves Can'tler of responsibility that he bears given his horrendous play last yr.

Trestman was hired and sucked as a Hc and a OC. End of story

 

[Desperado34]

Thread still sucks, minus a few posters.

When we grabbing Tilited Kilt? Looking forward to that

 

[mecha]

I love how Cutler is never responsible for his own decision making and performance to despbro and the rest of the Cutler nuthuggers. It's always someone else that's to blame for Cutler continuing to make boneheaded mistakes and failing to realize all that potential.

Is it Cutler's fault he threw the ball directly into the belly of the NT to lose the Bills game? Nope, it's all on Trestman because he apparently is controlling Cutler like a game of Madden and forcing him to make Special person decisions and inaccurate throws...:bizarro:

What a joke.

Good players transcend systems and make the players around them better. But in Cutler's case it's the exact opposite. He apparently needs a top 5 defense, HOF players at every position around him on offense, a HOF coaching staff, and also needs to to be game planned out of the game as much as possible in an effort to minimize his mental mistakes.

The Bears essentially paid $126 million for a guy that needs to be coddled and game planned around like he's some scrub rookie. WHAT A DEAL!!!

In hindsight they would of been better off just keeping Orton. It's not like Cutler brings anything special to the table.

lol, you were a Cutler nuthugger once. and a pretty persistent and loud one. I get it, you feel scorned because he never got better and you don't want to be associated with him anymore. it's ok.

with the season he came off of with the Broncos in 2008, despite the sad finish to the season, it was perceived he would be an upgrade at the position. GMs make mistakes. oh well. Jerry Angelo had several missteps in his latter years, he was still an NFL GM and not some basement-dwelling jackoff that lives on CCS 14 hours a day to brag they made 20,000 posts in the past 2 years.

the loosely-run shitshow that was the 2014 Bears is a product of letting the inmates run the asylum. Trestman couldn't ground the team, they were garbage all around. it's statistically proven now, I don't really know why it's still discussed. Jay Cutler throws interceptions. yes, so does every other starting quarterback in the league, it's not some huge revelation, and he's actually thrown more interceptions in a single season before. once again, who cares, get over it. he either sinks or swims, Pace has shown he has the balls to let people go when they **** up. I like his style.

 

[airtime143]

his play wasn't horrendous his turnovers were sure but outside the turnovers cutler had a decent year

True. Like most of his career.
The league is absolutely littered with guys that washed out over the same exact thing.

Cutler went for 3800 yards, 28 tds and 18 picks.
Freeman in tampa went over 4000 yards, 27 tds and 17 ints in 2012... were the bucs wrong to move on?

 

[theOHIOSTATE!]

Trestman was hired and sucked as a Hc and a OC. End of story

 

[WindyCity]

3800 yards and 28 TDs is not a good season for a QB anymore.

That is not even above the Dalton line.

 

[theOHIOSTATE!]

his play wasn't horrendous his turnovers were sure but outside the turnovers cutler had a decent year

You'e correct.

Can'tler was horrendously mediocre with the added benefit of turning the ball over more than any other player.

My mistake.

Does that change where we're at vis a vis our QBing situation in Chicago really?

Hey, I am the guy who has said on many occasions the guy had a solid yr in 2013 in my opinion. I just thought he looked to have taken a clear step back in 2014, and his accuracy was clearly worse imho.

 

[Mitchapalooza]

3800 yards and 28 TDs is not a good season for a QB anymore.

That is not even above the Dalton line.

how many of those TDs were garbage time

 

[da_bears6]

The Bears can beat the Packers and win the NFCN without a QB but it's a lot harder and a lot more work. Stringing together strong draft classes is what Pace is going to have to do to have any kind of chance at getting this organization into the playoffs. Cutler is the obvious guy that needs to be replaced and is the easiest guy to point your finger at for 2014 but last year outside of 5-10 guys the entire roster and coaching staff looked like it needed to be wiped clean. The team had clearly given up and there were reports that Trestman basically checked out around mid-season. The guys aren't going to play for a guy like that. This will be an interesting year to evaluate the talent and see whose worth keeping around while Pace rebuilds this dumpster fire.

#2016NFCNChamps

 

[Broc]

the loosely-run shitshow that was the 2014 Bears is a product of letting the inmates run the asylum. Trestman couldn't ground the team, they were garbage all around.

Enough with the coaching bullshit. The 2014 Bears were a product of injuries and erratic, inconsistent QB play plain and simple. Stop trying to pin everything on coaching style. Bruce Arians or whatever other coaches you morons think would of produced different results don't have magical "alpha bro" powers to prevent injuries or "fix" Cutler.

The only person who can fix Cutler is Cutler and that isn't going to magically happen now in year 10 just because we have new coaches with different coaching styles. Cutler could wind up yelling "tell Gase I said **** him" by week 5 for all anyone knows. Why some of you guys are so quick to assume we'll see this big improvement simply because we got rid of Trestman like he was the sole reason the team was dysfunctional is beyond me.

Gase could have the greatest offensive system known to man drawn up but at the end of the day it's still up to Cutler to execute it. Gase, just like Trestman, isn't going to have a Xbox controller in his hand making Cutler go thru the reads and make the correct decisions with the football. He's going to be just as helpless watching Jay butcher his offense like he did Trestman's, which looked and ran perfectly fine when McCown was running it and not turning the ball over.

 

[da_bears6]

Trestman is not an NFL level HC he was also surrounded with one of the poorest coaching staffs in the NFL, an aging roster and in a tough division. Wasn't much that could have made that work.

Arians certainly would have gotten more out of this team vs. Trestman but we'd still have Phil Emery at GM most likely so Trestman was a bit of a blessing in disguise. This organization needed the reset button pressed.

 

[RisWell]

Broncos and Bears both ran pretty similiar passing schemes last year. Execution was obviously different with Manning but they ran a shit load of short passes, bubble screens and hitches.

 

[run and shoot]

I love how Cutler is never responsible for his own decision making and performance to despbro and the rest of the Cutler nuthuggers. It's always someone else that's to blame for Cutler continuing to make boneheaded mistakes and failing to realize all that potential.

Is it Cutler's fault he threw the ball directly into the belly of the NT to lose the Bills game? Nope, it's all on Trestman because he apparently is controlling Cutler like a game of Madden and forcing him to make Special person decisions and inaccurate throws...:bizarro:

What a joke.

Good players transcend systems and make the players around them better. But in Cutler's case it's the exact opposite. He apparently needs a top 5 defense, HOF players at every position around him on offense, a HOF coaching staff, and also needs to to be game planned out of the game as much as possible in an effort to minimize his mental mistakes.

The Bears essentially paid $126 million for a guy that needs to be coddled and game planned around like he's some scrub rookie. WHAT A DEAL!!!

In hindsight they would of been better off just keeping Orton. It's not like Cutler brings anything special to the table.

Dammit Broc.......... is this what u expect of jay........ should anyone naturally expect this of jay as qb


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