What is wrong with some Bulls fans?

[scottiepippen1994]

The team will just have to go out Firday night and give it there all.
And then take it from there.
They just got to fight until its over.
Simple as that.

 

[EzioAssassin]

Stop liking the 76ers and be a Bulls fan.

Then we can be friends.

lol, well if I didn't jump ship by now, I might as well stay on for the long haul.

The Sixers haven't won a playoff series in almost a decade, it's been pretty rough at times.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

lol, well if I didn't jump ship by now, I might as well stay on for the long haul.

The Sixers haven't won a playoff series in almost a decade, it's been pretty rough at times.

Join Rush
And he will complete your training
And with your combined strength
You can end this destructive conflict
And bring order to the galaxy as father and son

 

[houheffna]

if you watched Miami and OKC last night, and the Lakers the night before...those teams have 3 players at least that are better than the best player on the Bulls. Been watching the league for too long. The Bulls are not winning anything this year...period.

Will I watch? yes...because I want to see who is going to step up and who will not. The true contenders in the playoffs have at least 1 go to guy and a few guys that can create a shot. OKC, Heat and Lakers have 3 of those guys. Spurs have a couple of them, so do Memphis. The Bulls? Nobody.

I don't think its sacrilege in any way to watch the Bulls, hope they win, but NOT be delusional.

 

[FirstTimer]

A lot of people are saying that they still can win the championship this season. I never said anybody should stop watching or rooting.

I feel like God has blessed me because I just moved to a new state and don't have an internet or cable connection so even though I'm still rooting for them, He has saved me the pain of watching them ultimately lose this season. I would if I could though.

Again, only coming to this site to bash people. I have barely been on here for the past month and I found it hilarious that you are still proving what a loser you are (i.e. I saw a post you left bashing me TODAY). Please climb off of my nuts and retain what little self-respect you have left.

Post-count does not make you, Houheffna, and FirstTimer any less loser-ish. If anything, that works against your favor in that argument.

1. Seems like God has blessed us too.

THANK YOU RAPTOR JESUS!

2. You're still a terrible poster. Just the way you always have been.

What makes me a fan is that I root my ASS off during every Bulls' game from 1996-present and I do so without thinking of tomorrow each time. I only want this team to win day-in-day-out and I want this team to win another championship.

Yet you didn't want to trade for another super star player

:rofl:

 

[houheffna]

False. When LeBron signed with Miami, that team consisted of 5 players of the 12 needed for a full active roster. And then they traded Beasley for nothing so it was actually 4 players taking up essentially every last bit of cap-space. James, Wade, and Bosh are all limited offensively together because of the fact that they are all isolation scorers and mid-range jump-shooters. Defense is what makes the Miami Heat as consistent as they are. Their offense is actually pretty shaky from very good to very mediocre.

This is an old argument. It doesn't work anymore. Their offense is better than Chicago's offense because they don't depend on one guy to bail them out.

 

[JosMin]

I agree with Hou that the remaining games in the Bulls/Sixers series will be a nice barometer to truly see where this roster stands. Everyone knows what Rose is capable of and what he brings to the table on a nightly basis. I'm more interested in how the rest of the team plays, knowing that Rose isn't going to be there.

Luol Deng has to be the guy who puts this team on his back offensively. His shot selection in game 2 was terrible and he's only attempt two free throws combined in both games. I'd also like to see some more agression from Rip and Boozer. They've both just seemed far too passive, especially considering that Noah probably won't have another offensive explosion like in the first game.

Like I said... somebody HAS to step up. We can still beat the Sixers without Rose... but beyond that -- it has to be a team effort. Everyone has to play at an A+ level.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

This is an old argument. It doesn't work anymore. Their offense is better than Chicago's offense because they don't depend on one guy to bail them out.

No, what I said was the truth. Your defending of the Heats' flawed half-court offense is what is old and tired. People acted like the Heat were unbeatable when those 3 players signed with them, and they lost last year (and may lose again those year) because those 3 players do not complement one another in the half-court set very well and the rest of that team consists of washed-up, below average NBA players.

 

[JosMin]

No, what I said was the truth. Your defending of the Heats' flawed half-court offense is what is old and tired. People acted like the Heat were unbeatable when those 3 players signed with them, and they lost last year (and may lose again those year) because those 3 players do not complement one another in the half-court set very well and the rest of that team consists of washed-up, below average NBA players.

But you gotta' remember dude, if Miami is able to get and run in transition consistently, the only team that can keep up with them is OKC. They've been able to do that so far agains the Knicks.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

I agree with Hou that the remaining games in the Bulls/Sixers series will be a nice barometer to truly see where this roster stands. Everyone knows what Rose is capable of and what he brings to the table on a nightly basis. I'm more interested in how the rest of the team plays, knowing that Rose isn't going to be there.

Luol Deng has to be the guy who puts this team on his back offensively. His shot selection in game 2 was terrible and he's only attempt two free throws combined in both games. I'd also like to see some more agression from Rip and Boozer. They've both just seemed far too passive, especially considering that Noah probably won't have another offensive explosion like in the first game.

Like I said... somebody HAS to step up. We can still beat the Sixers without Rose... but beyond that -- it has to be a team effort. Everyone has to play at an A+ level.

Honestly, (if it has to be any ONE player) Boozer needs to be the guy to put this team on his back offensively- not Deng. Deng lives off of open jumpers and is a bad 1st option scorer. Boozer needs to get established in the POST with his back to the basket. Elton Brand, Allen, and Young are all undersized 4-men and Chicago needs to take advantage of that.

The Bulls can't rely on one guy to score without Rose. It needs to be a balanced attack and they need to hope their shooters can feed off of great ball movement and start to get hot. Without Philly's defense respecting our PG's ability to penetrate and score in the lane, everything is going to be that much harder.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

But you gotta' remember dude, if Miami is able to get and run in transition consistently, the only team that can keep up with them is OKC. They've been able to do that so far agains the Knicks.

Yep, there is no denying that. Miami's defense is what will largely be responsible for that. Luckily, the importance of every possession is maximized in the playoffs so generally there are less turnovers and a slower/more half-court oriented pace of each game. And that works against Miami's favor.

 

[JosMin]

Honestly, (if it has to be any ONE player) Boozer needs to be the guy to put this team on his back offensively- not Deng. Deng lives off of open jumpers and is a bad 1st option scorer. Boozer needs to get established in the POST with his back to the basket. Elton Brand, Allen, and Young are all undersized 4-men and Chicago needs to take advantage of that.

The Bulls can't rely on one guy to score without Rose. It needs to be a balanced attack and they need to hope their shooters can feed off of great ball movement and start to get hot. Without Philly's defense respecting our PG's ability to penetrate and score in the lane, everything is going to be that much harder.

I never said we didn't need a balanced attack. We just need somebody to step up and become a go-to player. Boozer is just as undersized at the 4 as every guy on the Sixers. Without Rose, the Bulls really can't create the pick and roll that makes Boozer effective. He's not been picking his spots on the floor. Just like Deng, his shot selection was spotty in the second game.

I agree with you in the sense that we no longer have the threat to penetrate and kick the ball out, so drawing fouls is going to be that much more important. Thibs needs to change the gameplan and try to maximize ball movement and getting quality possessions.... which means no JLIII or CJ dribbling for eight seconds and chucking up a brick.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

I never said we didn't need a balanced attack. We just need somebody to step up and become a go-to player. Boozer is just as undersized at the 4 as every guy on the Sixers. Without Rose, the Bulls really can't create the pick and roll that makes Boozer effective. He's not been picking his spots on the floor. Just like Deng, his shot selection was spotty in the second game.

I agree with you in the sense that we no longer have the threat to penetrate and kick the ball out, so drawing fouls is going to be that much more important. Thibs needs to change the gameplan and try to maximize ball movement and getting quality possessions.... which means no JLIII or CJ dribbling for eight seconds and chucking up a brick.

By "go-to player" I sort of assumed that you meant somebody to throw the ball to when the offense breaks down. If the Bulls need a bail-out play in isolation, I'd rather see Richard Hamilton get the ball than Deng. Deng has never been a good ball-handler and is bad at creating for himself off of the dribble (the wrist injury has been no help when it comes to that or shooting percentage). I also like Deng better off of the ball moving through screens and looking to get offensive rebounds (one of his strengths). I think what will help spread the floor for Chicago's shooters would be Boozer in the low-post kicking it out when double-teamed. Without that, the Bulls might not even win this series........

 

[FirstTimer]

No, what I said was the truth. Your defending of the Heats' flawed half-court offense is what is old and tired. People acted like the Heat were unbeatable when those 3 players signed with them, and they lost last year (and may lose again those year) because those 3 players do not complement one another in the half-court set very well and the rest of that team consists of washed-up, below average NBA players.

WHO?

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

WHO?

Some things are self-explanatory.

 

[houheffna]

No, what I said was the truth. Your defending of the Heats' flawed half-court offense is what is old and tired. People acted like the Heat were unbeatable when those 3 players signed with them, and they lost last year (and may lose again those year) because those 3 players do not complement one another in the half-court set very well and the rest of that team consists of washed-up, below average NBA players.

First of all, I bypassed the "all three players are limited offensively" thing you said...because that is stupid. Not "Rami stupid"...that's another level, but stupid nonetheless. James is considered one of the great offensive talents in league history...but then again, maybe you think Boris Diaw is less limited?

But as I have explained before, the offense has improved due to the team conceding that James is the man on that team. Wade will pick his spots, but the both of them knows who the man is now. So the cohesion has improved. If you watched the 4th quarter last night against NY...you would know what I am talking about...

 

[FirstTimer]

Some things are self-explanatory.

No, it's actually not. Hou has never said that, no one here has ever said. Bringing it up in a conversation with hou is both pointless and idiotic.

Par for the course here.

Some Special person in the national media says something so that means the guy on the CCS board who thinks the Heat can/will beat Chicago thinks the same way despite him never saying it.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

seems miami is playing fluidly offensively and defensively against the knicks

now wait a second..

hmm who was that guy on here that said miami is more of a playoff team(partly because they have stars that can take over in key moments on both sides of the ball)

:thinking:

 

[Diddy1122]

seems miami is playing fluidly offensively and defensively against the knicks

Eh, I don't take much from that series. The Knicks are a mess. I said it before the playoffs when people were actually believing they could BEAT Miami. :lol: Of all the playoff teams, the Knicks are the worst. Yes they are worse than Philly. The only thing that team has going for them is Chandler's D & Melo. With no Stat, no Lin, & no Shumpert, it's not really a shock that they are destroying NY. Not that it would've mattered much if they were they. Still would be swept imho.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

First of all, I bypassed the "all three players are limited offensively" thing you said...because that is stupid. Not "Rami stupid"...that's another level, but stupid nonetheless. James is considered one of the great offensive talents in league history...but then again, maybe you think Boris Diaw is less limited?

But as I have explained before, the offense has improved due to the team conceding that James is the man on that team. Wade will pick his spots, but the both of them knows who the man is now. So the cohesion has improved. If you watched the 4th quarter last night against NY...you would know what I am talking about...

Typical Houheffna. You're still too big of a loser to not take people out-of-context. "James, Wade, and Bosh are all limited offensively together" is what I said and together they are very limited because the three of them like to all score in the same ways in the half-court set. Has the chemistry of their offense improved? Sure- but they are still flawed.

The whole "the man" argument does not work. Dwyane Wade is the player who is more feared when the game is on the line. LeBron can do more things, but that is still WADE county because WADE is the one defenses fear will hit them where it hurts with the game on the line with his crossover moves and bag of tricks to create space for himself and score in a cold-blooded fashion. LeBron basically joined to be his Super-side-kick.